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19:36:52 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make log world
19:36:56 <MichaelC> meeting: WCAG
19:37:01 <MichaelC> chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden
19:37:25 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007OctDec/0020.html
19:37:40 <MichaelC> regrets: Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Christophe_Strobbe
19:42:52 <MichaelC> agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates
19:43:00 <MichaelC> agenda+ Publication Planning
19:43:18 <MichaelC> agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 11 Oct 2007 (starting with 2109) <http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20071011misc/results>
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19:43:36 <MichaelC> agenda+ Link Purpose Proposals for Sept. 2007 <http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20070926misc/results>
19:43:56 <MichaelC> agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 16 Oct 2007 <http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20071016misc/results>
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19:59:04 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has now started
19:59:11 <Zakim> + +1.240.855.aaaa
20:01:07 <Zakim> +Cooper
20:01:09 <Zakim> +Sofia_Celic
20:01:22 <Zakim> + +44.118.909.aabb
20:01:26 <Zakim> +??P0
20:01:34 <MichaelC> zakim, +1.240 is Bruce_Bailey
20:01:34 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey; got it
20:01:35 <Zakim> +??P1
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20:01:43 <Zakim> +[IBM]
20:01:48 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
20:01:59 <MichaelC> zakim, IBM is Andi_Snow-Weaver
20:01:59 <Zakim> +Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it
20:02:08 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:02:09 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
20:02:10 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P1 is Gregg_Vanderheiden
20:02:10 <Zakim> +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
20:02:40 <Zakim> +??P9
20:02:50 <rellero__> zakim, ??P9 is Roberto_Ellero
20:02:50 <Zakim> +Roberto_Ellero; got it
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20:04:50 <Andi> scribe: Andi
20:05:42 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
20:05:55 <MichaelC> zakim, Microsoft is Cynthia_Shelly
20:05:55 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly; got it
20:07:44 <MichaelC> zakim, take up item 1
20:07:44 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from MichaelC]
20:08:04 <MichaelC> zakim, close this item
20:08:04 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
20:08:05 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
20:08:07 <Zakim> 2. Publication Planning [from MichaelC]
20:08:09 <MichaelC> zakim, take up item 2
20:08:09 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Publication Planning" taken up [from MichaelC]
20:08:22 <Zakim> +??P11
20:08:33 <bengt> zakim, ??P11 is Bengt_Farre
20:08:33 <Zakim> +Bengt_Farre; got it
20:11:21 <Zakim> +Alex_Li
20:12:04 <David_MacDonald> q+
20:12:25 <Gregg> ack k
20:12:57 <Gregg> ack d
20:13:30 <Gregg> ack s
20:16:59 <Gregg> ack a
20:24:59 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
20:25:08 <Andi> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20071011misc/results
20:25:44 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
20:25:44 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Miscellaneous Proposals for 11 Oct 2007 (starting with 2109) <http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20071011misc/results>" taken up [from MichaelC]
20:25:56 <Andi> Topic: Issue 2109: doing a little more for people with cognitive limitations
20:26:01 <Andi> Will be covered on a later survey
20:26:19 <Andi> Topic: Issue 2111: Text resizing - What Level
20:27:58 <Zakim> +Alex_Li
20:30:43 <Gregg> ack c
20:30:58 <Andi> resolution: accept 2111 as amended
20:31:23 <Andi> Topic: Issue 2169: Use heading for different columns in web page layouts?
20:33:11 <Andi> resolution: accept 2169 as amended
20:33:24 <Andi> topic: Issue 2262: resizing of form controls
20:35:22 <Andi> action: Cynthia to develop failure example for issue 2262 re: truncated (include code)
20:41:27 <Andi> action: Sofia to include a failure where the text in the page scales but the text in a form control does not.
20:49:25 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:49:42 <Andi> action: Katie to do rough draft of "Specifying the size of objects in terms of the font size" ref: 2262
20:49:56 <Andi> resolution: accept 2262 as amended
20:50:32 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:50:53 <Andi> topic: Issue 1927: The use of SCOPE for a simple table in cells that use TH is futile
20:53:45 <Andi> action: David to compare 1927 response to current draft and send Michael note about changes needed
20:55:39 <Andi> topic: Issues 2231, 2052, 2086: SC 2.4.9 (Section Headings)
20:56:40 <Loretta> ack c
20:58:33 <Loretta> q+
20:58:58 <Gregg> ack l
21:02:19 <Gregg> ack s
21:02:19 <Loretta> ack s
21:03:51 <Gregg> ack c
21:22:54 <Andi> resolution: issues 2231, 2052, and 2086 accepted as amended
21:23:25 <Andi> topic: Issue 2071: SC 3.1.2: Suggested additional qualification
21:35:46 <Andi> resolution: accept 2071 as amended
21:35:57 <Andi> topic: 2356: Preferment of liquid over elastic design for accessibility reasons
21:37:42 <Gregg> ack b
21:39:40 <MichaelC> q+
21:39:44 <Gregg> ack m
21:40:10 <MichaelC> ack me
21:42:33 <Loretta> q+
21:44:10 <Gregg> ack l
21:44:23 <Gregg> q+ loretta
21:45:02 <Gregg> q+
21:45:04 <Gregg> Ack l
21:46:05 <Gregg> ack g
21:46:26 <Loretta> q+
21:47:09 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
21:47:29 <Gregg> ack c
21:47:44 <Gregg> ack l
21:48:19 <Gregg> q+
21:48:25 <David_MacDonald> zakim, mute me
21:48:25 <Zakim> David_MacDonald should now be muted
21:50:00 <Gregg> ack g
21:52:19 <David_MacDonald> zakim, unmute me
21:52:19 <Zakim> David_MacDonald should no longer be muted
21:52:23 <David_MacDonald> q+
21:53:13 <Gregg> ack d
21:55:49 <Loretta> q+
21:57:35 <David_MacDonald> zakim, mute me
21:57:35 <Zakim> David_MacDonald should now be muted
21:57:42 <Gregg> ack l
22:01:08 <Gregg> ack c
22:06:32 <David_MacDonald> q+
22:06:55 <David_MacDonald> zakim, unmute me
22:06:55 <Zakim> David_MacDonald should no longer be muted
22:06:56 <Loretta> q+
22:08:14 <Gregg> ack d
22:08:54 <Gregg> ack l 
22:11:31 <Gregg> ack c
22:16:36 <Andi> resolution: accept 2356 as amended
22:16:46 <Andi> topic: Issue 2128: Prohibiting images of important text
22:18:25 <Zakim> -Sean_Hayes
22:18:53 <Zakim> +Sean_Hayes
22:22:24 <David_MacDonald> zakim, mute me
22:22:24 <Zakim> David_MacDonald should now be muted
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22:32:41 <David_MacDonald> zakim,. unmute me
22:32:41 <Zakim> I don't understand '. unmute me', David_MacDonald
22:32:47 <David_MacDonald> q+
22:34:07 <Gregg> ack d
22:34:34 <Sofia> q+
22:36:04 <Sofia> q-
22:37:34 <David_MacDonald> zakim, mute me
22:37:34 <Zakim> David_MacDonald should now be muted
22:46:09 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
22:48:09 <Gregg> ack b
22:48:23 <Zakim> +Alex_Li
22:50:49 <Gregg> Images of text are not used to present non-decorative textexcept where a particular presentation is crucial to the information being conveyed.
22:55:55 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
22:56:54 <Gregg> Images of text are not used to present non-decorative text except where a particular presentation is essential to the information being conveyed.     NOTE: Logotypes, branding etc are considered essential.  
22:59:43 <Andi> leave 2128 open
23:00:02 <Andi> topic: Issue 2253: A new Success Criterion regarding use of color
23:00:09 <Andi> resolution: accept 2253 as proposed
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23:00:22 <Andi> topic: Issue 2211: the SC should be applicable even on a single page
23:00:26 <Zakim> -Bengt_Farre
23:02:29 <Andi> resolution: accept 2211 as amended
23:02:50 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow-Weaver
23:02:52 <Zakim> -Cooper
23:02:55 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
23:02:56 <Zakim> -Sean_Hayes
23:03:13 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
23:08:23 <Zakim> -Roberto_Ellero
23:09:47 <Loretta> Michael, are you there?
23:10:20 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
23:10:22 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
23:12:58 <Gregg> @michaelC  are you there?
23:15:53 <Gregg> zakim, bye
23:15:53 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were +1.240.855.aaaa, Cooper, Sofia_Celic, +44.118.909.aabb, Bruce_Bailey, Sean_Hayes, Tim_Boland, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid,
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23:16:06 <Gregg> rrsagent, bye
23:16:06 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/16-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
23:16:06 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Cynthia to develop failure example for issue 2262 re: truncated (include code) [1]
23:16:06 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/16-wai-wcag-irc#T20-35-22
23:16:06 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Sofia to include a failure where the text in the page scales but the text in a form control does not. [2]
23:16:06 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/16-wai-wcag-irc#T20-41-27
23:16:06 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Katie to do rough draft of "Specifying the size of objects in terms of the font size" ref: 2262 [3]
23:16:06 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/16-wai-wcag-irc#T20-49-42
23:16:06 <RRSAgent> ACTION: David to compare 1927 response to current draft and send Michael note about changes needed [4]
23:16:06 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/16-wai-wcag-irc#T20-53-45