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18:41:09 <cferris> zakim, this will be xmlp
18:41:09 <Zakim> ok, cferris; I see WS_XMLP()3:00PM scheduled to start in 19 minutes
19:00:42 <Zakim> WS_XMLP()3:00PM has now started
19:00:49 <Zakim> +Chris_Ferris
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19:01:53 <cferris> Topic: agenda - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-protocol-wg/2007Oct/0000.html
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19:04:20 <Zakim> +Jonathan_Marsh
19:06:32 <Zakim> +Yves
19:07:48 <cferris> Present: Chris, Yves, Jonathan, Anish
19:08:41 <cferris> scribe: cferris
19:08:52 <cferris> topic: approval of minutes
19:09:00 <cferris> minutes from 9/12 approved as posted
19:09:08 <cferris> topic: administrative
19:09:24 <cferris> deferred
19:09:29 <cferris> topic: action items
19:09:52 <cferris> [DONE] ACTION: Chris to create issue from Mark's email and close with no action
19:10:16 <cferris> [DONE] ACTION: Chris to follow-up with Yves to make [publication] happen next week
19:10:34 <cferris> [PENDING] ACTION: Chris to upload new implementation page.
19:11:23 <cferris> topic: MTOM Policy LC issues
19:11:25 <cferris> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2007Oct/0005.html
19:13:49 <cferris> Fabian proposes to delete the 3rd paragraph and add the fourth in his change proposal
19:15:28 <Zakim> +Anish
19:15:32 <cferris> jonathan: not sure that is quite right
19:16:07 <cferris> chris: what if we removed "in the absence of such an indicator"?
19:16:17 <cferris> jonathan: thinking...
19:18:25 <cferris> jonathan: looking at 4506
19:19:26 <cferris> the last sentence in the issue resolution was: "To ensure that a response message is serialized as application/xop+xml a client
19:19:26 <cferris> can send an application/xop+xml request message."
19:20:04 <cferris> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4506
19:20:16 <cferris> chris: looks like cut-n-paste error
19:20:23 <cferris> jonathan: yes, looks that way
19:20:43 <cferris> ... just add "To " to the 3rd paragraph
19:21:02 <cferris> chris: all agree to adopt original resolution and add word "To"?
19:21:39 <cferris> jonathan: still slightly lost, think adding "To" is right
19:22:40 <cferris> unanimous
19:23:26 <cferris> RESOLUTION: close issue 5173 by adding "To" to the garbled sentence and move to 4th paragraph as in the original issue resolution for 4506
19:23:30 <Jonathan> OK followed all the links - don't see anything that modifies the "to".
19:23:30 <cferris> rrsagent, where am i?
19:23:30 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2007/10/10-xmlprotocol-irc#T19-23-30-1
19:24:14 <cferris> ACTION: Chris to send response to Fabian with WG's resolution
19:26:33 <cferris> RESOLUTION: agree that citations should be consistent and that we need to recheck all the links to ensure that they are all current
19:26:39 <cferris> rrsagent, where am i?
19:26:39 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2007/10/10-xmlprotocol-irc#T19-26-39
19:26:58 <cferris> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2007Sep/0000.html
19:26:58 <Jonathan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2007Sep/0000.html
19:28:13 <cferris> anish: can we update homepage to link to bugzilla?
19:28:22 <cferris> yves: sure, I updated but will check
19:28:46 <cferris> ACTION: Chris to respond to Mohamed re: 5174
19:29:14 <cferris> chris: next issue 5175
19:29:15 <cferris> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5175
19:30:50 <cferris> chris: agrees
19:31:12 <cferris> jonathan: may be overkill to include references to multipart/related and XOP
19:33:08 <Yves> side note: resolution of Fabian's issue is in the edcopy (and edcopy updated.
19:33:14 <cferris> jonathan: replace "using" with ...
19:34:59 <cferris> chris: here's what sect 1 says now:
19:35:00 <cferris> This specification describes a domain-specific policy assertion for the SOAP Message Transmission Optimization Mechanism W3C Recommentation [MTOM] that can be specified within a policy alternative as defined in Web Services Policy 1.5 - Framework [WS-Policy]. For backwards compatibility, the policy assertion can also be used in conjunction with the SOAP 1.1 Binding for MTOM 1.0 [MTOMS11] Member Submission.
19:36:04 <cferris> anish: he is adding second sentence
19:36:43 <cferris> jonathan: let's accept what he has suggested
19:37:11 <cferris> anish: what does change is whether section 4 is implied by the assertion or not
19:37:22 <cferris> ... sect 4 is about http/soap features
19:37:42 <cferris> ... think it says how soap/http binding deals with the feature
19:38:17 <cferris> chris: in abstract only references section 3
19:38:39 <cferris> anish: if I have this on a binding that is soap/http, am I required to do what section 4 sez?
19:38:58 <cferris> ... and if I put it on a non-soap/http binding, what does it mean
19:39:13 <cferris> chris: get rid of section reference altogether?
19:39:28 <cferris> anish: if we want this to be used for other bindings...
19:39:33 <cferris> jonathan: which we do
19:52:51 <cferris> anish: for intro, what ram proposes is okay
19:53:10 <cferris> jonathan: good with ram's proposal
19:57:09 <cferris> RESOLUTION: issue 5175 closed with proposal from Ram as described in issue
19:57:14 <cferris> rrsagent, where am i?
19:57:14 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2007/10/10-xmlprotocol-irc#T19-57-14
19:57:54 <cferris> ACTION: Chris to respond to Ram re issue resolution for 5175
19:58:30 <cferris> ACTION: Chris to open new issue related to discussion above for reinforcing section 3.3 as specific to binding protocol details
19:58:48 <cferris> ACTION: Anish to draft proposal for new issue against section 3.3
19:59:58 <cferris> topic: review of ws-policy primer and guidelines
20:00:07 <cferris> no takers
20:00:31 <cferris> ACTION: Chris to reply to Paul regarding no action/comments from XMLP WG on primer and guidelines
20:01:33 <Zakim> -Anish
20:01:34 <Zakim> -Jonathan_Marsh
20:01:35 <Zakim> -Chris_Ferris
20:01:36 <Zakim> -Yves
20:01:38 <Zakim> WS_XMLP()3:00PM has ended
20:01:39 <cferris> call next week
20:01:39 <Zakim> Attendees were Chris_Ferris, Jonathan_Marsh, Yves, Anish
20:01:56 <cferris> NO call the following week due to ws-i f2f and anish in tokyo
20:02:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/10-xmlprotocol-minutes.html anish
20:02:14 <cferris> rrsagent, please draft minutes
20:02:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/10-xmlprotocol-minutes.html cferris
20:02:27 <cferris> adjourned
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