IRC log of forms on 2007-10-03

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14:54:27 [RRSAgent]: RRSAgent has joined #forms
14:54:27 [RRSAgent]: logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/10/03-forms-irc
14:54:34 [Zakim]: Zakim has joined #forms
14:54:39 [John_Boyer]: zakim, this will be forms
14:54:39 [Zakim]: ok, John_Boyer; I see HTML_Forms()11:00AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
14:54:45 [John_Boyer]: rrsagent, make log public
14:54:47 [wellsk]: zakim, who is here?
14:54:47 [Zakim]: HTML_Forms()11:00AM has not yet started, wellsk
14:54:48 [Zakim]: On IRC I see RRSAgent, John_Boyer, wellsk, Charlie, MarkS, Schnitz, Steven, trackbot-ng
14:55:11 [John_Boyer]: Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Telecon
14:55:35 [John_Boyer]: Chair: John
14:56:04 [John_Boyer]: Regrets: MarkB, Uli, Erik
14:56:33 [Schnitz]: Charlie, ok cool, ttyl
14:56:58 [Schnitz]: zakim, code?
14:56:58 [Zakim]: the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Schnitz
14:57:03 [John_Boyer]: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Oct/0004.html
14:57:13 [John_Boyer]: John_Boyer has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Oct/0004.html
14:57:24 [Zakim]: HTML_Forms()11:00AM has now started
14:57:30 [Zakim]: +wellsk
14:57:32 [Zakim]: +??P3
14:57:43 [Schnitz]: zakim, ??p3 is me
14:57:43 [Zakim]: +Schnitz; got it
14:58:39 [Zakim]: +John_Boyer
15:00:50 [Zakim]: +[IBM]
15:01:00 [Zakim]: +??P5
15:01:01 [Charlie]: zakim, [IBM] is Charlie
15:01:01 [Zakim]: +Charlie; got it
15:01:31 [wellsk]: zakim, who is here?
15:01:31 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Schnitz, wellsk, John_Boyer, Charlie, ??P5
15:01:32 [Zakim]: On IRC I see RRSAgent, John_Boyer, wellsk, Charlie, MarkS, Schnitz, Steven, trackbot-ng
15:01:34 [MarkS]: zakim, ??P5 is me
15:01:34 [Zakim]: +MarkS; got it
15:02:25 [Nick]: Nick has joined #Forms
15:02:35 [Nick]: zakim, code?
15:02:35 [Zakim]: the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Nick
15:03:21 [Zakim]: +Nick_van_den_Bleeken
15:03:31 [Steven]: zakim, dial steven-617
15:03:31 [Zakim]: ok, Steven; the call is being made
15:03:33 [Zakim]: +Steven
15:04:44 [klotz]: klotz has joined #forms
15:05:14 [John_Boyer]: Scribe: Leigh
15:05:19 [John_Boyer]: scribenick: klotz
15:05:25 [Zakim]: +Leigh_Klotz
15:05:49 [Rafael]: Rafael has joined #forms
15:06:18 [Nick]: zakim, mute me
15:06:18 [Zakim]: Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
15:06:32 [John_Boyer]: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Oct/0004.html
15:06:53 [Schnitz]: zakim, mute me
15:06:53 [Zakim]: Schnitz should now be muted
15:07:00 [Zakim]: + +34.91.21.aaaa
15:07:42 [Rafael]: zakim, +34.91.21.aaaa is Rafael
15:07:42 [Zakim]: +Rafael; got it
15:08:08 [Rafael]: Regrets from Roger, he is travelling
15:08:37 [klotz]: http://del.icio.us/leighklotz/xforms+paper+submission
15:11:22 [John_Boyer]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Oct/0003.html
15:11:45 [Steven]: q+ to add XForms Basic, and Forms Task Force to agenda
15:12:09 [Blake]: Blake has joined #forms
15:12:14 [John_Boyer]: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#fn-seconds-from-dateTime
15:12:44 [Nick]: seconds-from-dateTime is no longer comp)atible with XPath 2.0
15:12:51 [Zakim]: + +1.541.754.aabb
15:12:52 [Nick]: http://www.w3.org/TR/xquery-operators/#func-seconds-from-dateTime
15:13:02 [Blake]: zakim, +1541 is me
15:13:02 [Zakim]: +Blake; got it
15:13:28 [MarkS]: is anyone else having trouble hearing?
15:13:32 [Nick]: ack me
15:14:00 [Steven]: q-
15:14:37 [John_Boyer]: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#fn-seconds-to-dateTime
15:15:59 [Steven]: Ugh
15:16:26 [John_Boyer]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Oct/0003.html
15:17:04 [John_Boyer]: days-to-date(days-from-date(local-date()) + 31)
15:17:53 [John_Boyer]: seconds-to-dateTime(seconds-from-dateTime(now()) + 7200, false())
15:18:48 [John_Boyer]: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#fn-seconds-to-dateTime
15:22:20 [John_Boyer]: <bind nodeset="tz" calculate="substring(local-date(), 11, 6)"/>
15:22:27 [John_Boyer]: <bind nodeset="duration" calculate="concat('PT', substring(../tz, 2, 2), r'H', substring(../tz, 5, 2), 'M') "/>
15:22:36 [John_Boyer]: <bind nodeset="temp" rcalculate="seconds-to-dateTime(seconds-from-dateTime(now()) + 7200 - rseconds(../duration))"/>
15:22:44 [John_Boyer]: <bind nodeset="newtime" calculate="concat(substring(../temp, 1, rstring-length(../temp)-1), ../tz)"/>
15:23:32 [Nick]: http://www.w3.org/TR/xquery-operators/#func-adjust-dateTime-to-timezone
15:26:49 [John_Boyer]: Proposal: add a convert-to-local-dateTime
15:27:17 [John_Boyer]: Similar language about edge cases as well as main case of converting from UTC to local (if timezone info known by impl)
15:27:55 [Nick]: what do they mean with : "If $timezone is not specified, then $timezone is the value of the implicit timezone in the dynamic context."
15:28:36 [John_Boyer]: Ah, good point; should just convert from any timezone to any other
15:29:01 [John_Boyer]: If no timezone, then assume local timezone
15:30:23 [John_Boyer]: Nick proposes using one param version of adjust-dateTime-to-timezone()
15:31:49 [Nick]: zakim, mute me
15:31:49 [Zakim]: Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
15:32:25 [klotz]: RESOLUTION: We adopt adjust-dateTime-to-timezone from http://www.w3.org/TR/xquery-operators/#func-adjust-dateTime-to-timezone in the single-parameter version only.
15:32:40 [klotz]: ACTION: John Boyer to adopt adjust-dateTime-to-timezone from http://www.w3.org/TR/xquery-operators/#func-adjust-dateTime-to-timezone in the single-parameter version only for XForms 1.1.
15:32:40 [trackbot-ng]: Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
15:32:40 [trackbot-ng]: Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
15:32:44 [Schnitz]: zakim, unmute me
15:32:44 [Zakim]: Schnitz should no longer be muted
15:34:44 [Steven]: zakim, who is on the call?
15:34:44 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Schnitz, wellsk, John_Boyer, Charlie, MarkS, Nick_van_den_Bleeken (muted), Steven, Leigh_Klotz, Rafael, Blake
15:35:20 [Schnitz]: zakim, mute me
15:35:20 [Zakim]: Schnitz should now be muted
15:42:08 [Nick]: david sent 4 e-mails (we talked about this prev week) with remarks on the test suite
15:44:11 [Nick]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0016.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0015.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0013.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0012.html
15:44:18 [Nick]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0011.html
15:44:23 [Nick]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0010.html
15:44:27 [Steven]: I have added a pointer to test suite 3rd edition to the home page
15:44:46 [Nick]: # Error in XForms Test Suite 10.1.1.d David Landwehr (Wednesday, 22 August)
15:44:46 [Nick]: * Re: Error in XForms Test Suite 10.1.1.d David Landwehr (Wednesday, 22 August)
15:44:46 [Nick]: # Error in XForms Test Suite 10.1.1.c David Landwehr (Wednesday, 22 August)
15:44:46 [Nick]: # Error in XForms Test Suite 10.1.1.a David Landwehr (Wednesday, 22 August)
15:44:46 [Nick]: * Re: Error in XForms Test Suite 10.1.1.a David Landwehr (Wednesday, 22 August)
15:44:47 [Nick]: * Re: Error in XForms Test Suite 10.1.1.a Aaron Reed (Wednesday, 22 August)
15:44:49 [Nick]: # Error in XForms Test Suite 7.11.1.a David Landwehr (Tuesday, 21 August)
15:44:51 [Nick]: # Error in XForms Test suite 4.5.4.a David Landwehr (Tuesday, 21 August)
15:44:53 [Nick]: # Error in XForms Test suite 4.3.7.a David Landwehr (Monday, 20 August)
15:46:06 [Schnitz]: zakim, unmute me
15:46:06 [Zakim]: Schnitz should no longer be muted
15:46:09 [Nick]: ack me
15:51:36 [Steven]: q+ to mention that intermediate drafts should be marked "editor's draft"
15:51:58 [Schnitz]: zakim, mute me
15:51:58 [Zakim]: Schnitz should now be muted
15:57:57 [Schnitz]: zakim, unmute me
15:57:57 [Zakim]: Schnitz should no longer be muted
15:59:42 [klotz]: I've been on this since 1999
16:00:35 [Nick]: bye
16:00:39 [Zakim]: -MarkS
16:00:40 [Zakim]: -wellsk
16:00:40 [Zakim]: -Leigh_Klotz
16:00:41 [Zakim]: -Steven
16:00:42 [Zakim]: -Blake
16:00:44 [Zakim]: -John_Boyer
16:00:46 [Zakim]: -Charlie
16:00:47 [Blake]: Blake has left #forms
16:00:47 [Zakim]: -Schnitz
16:00:49 [Zakim]: -Rafael
16:00:50 [Schnitz]: :-)
16:00:53 [Zakim]: -Nick_van_den_Bleeken
16:00:54 [Zakim]: HTML_Forms()11:00AM has ended
16:00:54 [wellsk]: wellsk has left #forms
16:00:55 [Zakim]: Attendees were wellsk, Schnitz, John_Boyer, Charlie, MarkS, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, Steven, Leigh_Klotz, Rafael, +1.541.754.aabb, Blake
16:01:04 [Schnitz]: ciao, been great to have been on this telcon, cu next time
16:01:20 [John_Boyer]: yes, really good to have you back in play!
16:01:27 [John_Boyer]: rrsagent, make minutes
16:01:27 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/03-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer
16:01:39 [John_Boyer]: rrsagent, bye
16:01:39 [RRSAgent]: I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/03-forms-actions.rdf :
16:01:39 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: John Boyer to adopt adjust-dateTime-to-timezone from http://www.w3.org/TR/xquery-operators/#func-adjust-dateTime-to-timezone in the single-parameter version only for XForms 1.1. [1]
16:01:39 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/03-forms-irc#T15-32-40