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19:58:08 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make log world
19:58:13 <MichaelC> meeting: WCAG
19:58:26 <MichaelC> chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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19:58:43 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007OctDec/0002.html
19:59:26 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has now started
19:59:33 <Zakim> +[IBM]
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20:00:53 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
20:00:58 <rellero__> rellero__ has joined #wai-wcag
20:02:34 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
20:02:34 <Ben> Ben has joined #wai-wcag
20:02:40 <Zakim> +??P3
20:02:42 <Zakim> -[IBM]
20:02:44 <Loretta> Loretta has joined #wai-wcag
20:03:02 <Zakim> + +078750aaaa - is perhaps Sean_Hayes
20:03:17 <Zakim> +Cooper
20:03:23 <Zakim> +??P4
20:03:38 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:03:43 <rellero__> Zakim, ??P4 is Roberto_Ellero
20:03:43 <Zakim> +Roberto_Ellero; got it
20:03:59 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P3 is Gregg_Vanderheiden
20:03:59 <Zakim> +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
20:04:03 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:04:27 <Gregg> Gregg has joined #wai-wcag
20:04:33 <MichaelC> zakim, Microsoft is Cynthia_Shelly
20:04:33 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly; got it
20:05:11 <MichaelC> regrets: Christophe, Andi
20:06:43 <Ben> scribe: Ben
20:07:11 <Ben> agenda?
20:07:16 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
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20:07:23 <Ben> agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates
20:07:32 <Zakim> +Sofia_Celic
20:07:34 <Ben> agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 27 Sep 2007
20:07:48 <Ben> agenda+ Link Purpose Proposals for Sept. 2007
20:07:56 <Ben> agenda+ Miscellenous Proposals for 2 0ct 2007
20:08:06 <Ben> agenda+ Conformance level survey for 02 Oct 2007
20:08:32 <Ben> zakim, take up agendum 1
20:08:32 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from Ben]
20:11:00 <Ben> approximately 8 issues remain open
20:11:09 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:11:24 <bengt> zakim, [IPcall is Bengt_Farre
20:11:24 <Zakim> +Bengt_Farre; got it
20:11:39 <Ben> zakim, who is making noise?
20:11:50 <Zakim> Ben, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Cynthia_Shelly (8%), Tim_Boland (32%), Gregg_Vanderheiden (33%), David_MacDonald (66%)
20:13:08 <Ben> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:13:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see Cynthia_Shelly, Tim_Boland, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Sean_Hayes, Cooper, Roberto_Ellero, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, David_MacDonald, Sofia_Celic, Bengt_Farre
20:13:11 <Zakim> Gregg_Vanderheiden has Ben_Caldwell
20:32:59 <Zakim> -Roberto_Ellero
20:33:21 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
20:38:07 <Ben> zakim, close this item
20:38:07 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
20:38:08 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
20:38:10 <Zakim> 2. Miscellaneous Proposals for 27 Sep 2007 [from Ben]
20:38:34 <Ben> zakim, take up agendum 2
20:38:34 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Miscellaneous Proposals for 27 Sep 2007" taken up [from Ben]
20:40:23 <Ben> Topic: Issue 2027: contextual alternative
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20:43:22 <Loretta> \me http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20070927misc/results
20:54:37 <Ben> RESOLUTION: Accept as amended
20:54:46 <Ben> Topic: Issue 2032: Contrast value and background problem
20:56:08 <Ben> RESOLUTION: Accept as amended
20:56:22 <Ben> Topic: Issue 2063: associated text
20:57:14 <Ben> RESOLUTION: Accept by unanimous consent
20:57:23 <Ben> Topic: Issue 2132: new wording more restrictive
20:58:03 <Ben> RESOLUTION: Accept as amended
20:58:13 <Ben> Topic: Issue 2184: Stray comma and "standard"?
21:02:36 <Zakim> +[IBM]
21:04:22 <Ben> Action: Editors to review use of the word "standard"
21:04:33 <MichaelC> zakim, IBM is Andi_Snow-Weaver
21:04:33 <Zakim> +Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it
21:04:58 <Ben> RESOLUTION: Accept as amended.
21:06:06 <Ben> Topic: Issue 2205: just "visually" evident?
21:07:24 <Ben> RESOLUTION: already closed 
21:08:17 <Ben> Topic: Issue 2340, 2211: clarify 3.2.1 and 2.2.5
21:08:44 <Ben> RESOLUTION: Close Issue 2340 as proposed
21:10:40 <Ben> RESOLUTION: Keep 2211 open.
21:10:51 <Ben> Action: Sean to review 2211 and repropose
21:11:01 <Ben> Topic: Issue 2314: access to the text alternatives for image maps
21:12:39 <Ben> RESOLUTION: Close Issue 2314 as amended
21:12:53 <Ben> Topic: Issue 2321: Define testability in glossary
21:20:12 <Ben> RESOLUTION: Close Issue 2321 as amended.
21:20:23 <Ben> Topic: Issue 2356: Preferment of liquid over elastic design for accessibility reasons
21:30:29 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
21:32:39 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
21:34:50 <Ben> Action: David, Loretta, Gregg Sean to consider comments on 2356
21:35:32 <Ben> RESOLUTION: Keep 2356 open.
21:35:51 <Ben> Topic: Issue 2359: Alternate Versions Issue
21:38:31 <Ben> RESOLUTION: Close Issue 2359 as amended.
21:38:35 <Ben> zakim, close this item
21:38:35 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
21:38:36 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
21:38:37 <Zakim> 3. Link Purpose Proposals for Sept. 2007 [from Ben]
21:38:39 <Ben> zakim, take up agendum 3
21:38:39 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Link Purpose Proposals for Sept. 2007" taken up [from Ben]
21:39:32 <Ben> RESOLUTION: Accept 2252, 2343, 2061, 2104, 2127 by unanimous consent
21:41:34 <Ben> Topic: SC 2.4.4 and 2.4.8 Proposals
21:44:08 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
22:00:18 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
22:03:58 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
22:15:01 <Sofia> q+
22:15:09 <Loretta> ack c
22:15:25 <Gregg> ack s
22:15:43 <Andi> q+
22:15:50 <Gregg> ACK A
22:36:57 <Ben> RRSAgent, do not start a new log
22:43:53 <Zakim> -Bengt_Farre
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22:46:09 <Ben> RESOLUTION: Postpone discussion of this survey.
22:46:17 <Ben> zakim, close this item
22:46:17 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
22:46:19 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
22:46:20 <Zakim> 4. Miscellenous Proposals for 2 0ct 2007 [from Ben]
22:46:27 <Ben> zakim, take up agendum 4
22:46:27 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Miscellenous Proposals for 2 0ct 2007" taken up [from Ben]
22:55:35 <Ben> Topic: Issue 2141, 2174, 2308: accessibility supported
22:57:11 <Zakim> -Sofia_Celic
23:07:09 <Ben> No resolution, reopen to consider survey comments.
23:07:32 <Ben> Present: Cynthia_Shelly, Tim_Boland, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Sean_Hayes, Michael_Cooper, Roberto_Ellero, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, David_MacDonald, Sofia_Celic, Bengt_Farre, Ben_Caldwell, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Cynthia_Shelly
23:07:34 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow-Weaver
23:07:35 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
23:07:37 <Zakim> -Sean_Hayes
23:07:39 <Zakim> -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
23:07:40 <Zakim> -Gregg_Vanderheiden
23:07:41 <Zakim> -Cooper
23:07:43 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
23:07:45 <Zakim> Attendees were Tim_Boland, +078750aaaa, Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, Roberto_Ellero, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Ben_Caldwell, Cynthia_Shelly, David_MacDonald, Sofia_Celic, [IPcaller],
23:07:48 <Zakim> ... Bengt_Farre, Andi_Snow-Weaver
23:08:30 <Ben> RRSAgent, pointer?
23:08:30 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2007/10/02-wai-wcag-irc#T23-08-30
23:08:55 <Ben> Zakim, bye
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23:09:00 <Ben> RRSAgent, bye
23:09:00 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/02-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
23:09:00 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Editors to review use of the word "standard" [1]
23:09:00 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/02-wai-wcag-irc#T21-04-22
23:09:00 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Sean to review 2211 and repropose [2]
23:09:00 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/02-wai-wcag-irc#T21-10-51
23:09:00 <RRSAgent> ACTION: David, Loretta, Gregg Sean to consider comments on 2356 [3]
23:09:00 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/02-wai-wcag-irc#T21-34-50