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13:54:35 <LeeF> zakim, this will be sweo
13:54:35 <Zakim> ok, LeeF; I see SW_SWEO()10:00AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
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13:57:23 <Susie> Regrets - Ivan, Martin
13:58:45 <Zakim> SW_SWEO()10:00AM has now started
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14:01:06 <Zakim> +??P21
14:01:14 <bengee> zakim, ??P21 is me
14:01:17 <Zakim> +bengee; got it
14:02:13 <LeeF> bengee, can you hear us?
14:02:21 <LeeF> :-)
14:02:25 <Zakim> +PaulaP
14:02:34 <LeeF> thanks for the test results, bengee :-)
14:02:45 <Zakim> + +1.603.886.aaaa
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14:03:03 <LeeF> zakim, mute me please
14:03:03 <Zakim> LeeF should now be muted
14:03:54 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:04:40 <bengee> LeeF, just created an updated query report, I'll move towards the endpoint implementation now. sorry for not responding to your mail yet 
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14:05:18 <bengee> topic: flyer
14:05:28 <bengee> dunja gives an update
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14:06:07 <Zakim> +??P9
14:06:09 <bengee> minor delay, but on the upside will be able to ad the semweb logo and finetune the text a little
14:06:18 <bengee> s/ad/add/
14:06:19 <leobard> zakim, ??p9 is leobard
14:06:19 <Zakim> +leobard; got it
14:06:51 <bengee> susie thinks aligning the branding makes sense
14:08:11 <Susie> Benji gives update on logos
14:08:16 <Susie> We almost there
14:08:50 <bengee> next topic: use cases / case studies
14:09:07 <bengee> ivan not here today, but continues to ping folks
14:09:19 <bengee> positive feedback from cleveland guys
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14:09:43 <bengee> susie about to contact another group (clinic?)
14:10:04 <bengee> Melli helping wrt to approaching NASA
14:10:51 <Zakim> +??P35
14:10:56 <bengee> "anoter group" was mayo clinic
14:11:10 <danja> Zakim, ??P35 is danja
14:11:10 <Zakim> +danja; got it
14:11:38 <danja> (sorry, nearly forgot (again))
14:11:47 <bengee> Melli's other contacts are in progress
14:12:38 <bengee> Uldis' ad Kingsley's contacts: no updates
14:12:48 <bengee> topic: InfoGathering
14:13:23 <bengee> leo: perfectly stable situation ;-)
14:13:59 <bengee> topic: URI doc
14:14:16 <bengee> leo and co-authors are incorporating feedback
14:14:30 <bengee> no TAG feedback yet
14:15:07 <danja> thought I saw a mail from Stuart Williams re. TAG
14:15:28 <bengee> the SWD group is looking at it as well, will probably provide some feedback
14:15:40 <danja> Zakim, mute me
14:15:40 <Zakim> danja should now be muted
14:15:47 <bengee> next topic: community projects
14:16:39 <Susie> Benji is almost done with the Knowee prototype
14:16:59 <Susie> People liked Knowee at a recent Web Monday
14:17:14 <Susie> Hopes to put an early demo up this week.
14:17:15 <danja> from Norm Walsh for TAG : http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sweo-ig/2007Sep/0029.html
14:17:37 <Susie> Next steps would be to make it prettier and add some more functionality.
14:17:38 <danja> bravo bengee!
14:18:56 <Susie> People aat Web Monday were concerned about privacy issues
14:19:22 <Susie> Concerned that too much information could be aggregated
14:20:20 <Susie> There is an online demo and could also run locally
14:21:05 <danja> no talk
14:21:22 <Susie> Can you give us a text update?
14:21:27 <danja> no activity on preferred docs, but hope to put some time in this week
14:21:32 <bengee> next topic: doc collection
14:21:39 <danja> "stable"
14:21:41 <bengee> another stable situation!
14:22:06 <danja> ok, thanks Susie - anything you can think of
14:22:28 <bengee> next topic: F2F
14:22:47 <bengee> susie ging to send out a request for agenda items
14:23:25 <Susie> Benji met with Alistair Linden (ex-Gartner)
14:23:35 <bengee> alexander
14:23:57 <Susie> s/Alistair/Alexander
14:24:14 <Susie> He hasn't moved to a SemWeb company
14:24:25 <Susie> Benji blogged about it a few days ago
14:25:04 <Susie> His company outsources lots of actions/tasks
14:25:13 <Susie> Still interested in SemWeb
14:25:28 <Susie> See lots of interest in SemWeb from VCs
14:25:58 <Susie> His ideas include -
14:26:33 <Susie> 1. RDF isn't complicated, but the full stack isn't that trival.
14:27:05 <Susie> We should present core concepts rather than all details
14:27:31 <Susie> 2. Local meetings are good for crossing boundaries from hard core SemWeb to general Web developers
14:28:09 <Susie> 3. Collection of convincing success stories
14:28:23 <Susie> We should address CIOs and developers
14:29:06 <Susie> The community projects would be useful here too.
14:29:15 <Susie> 4. Something to download and play with
14:29:35 <Susie> Danny suggested 'SemWeb in a box' early on
14:29:49 <Susie> Help people to see how things work before diving into it a lot
14:30:10 <danja> (oh yeah...I'd forgotten about that :-)
14:30:12 <Susie> It would be good to have public data sets, as LOD is focused on
14:30:37 <Susie> Suggestion from Web Monday was for non-technical marketing
14:31:04 <Susie> DanB thought T-shirts were the best thing
14:31:16 <danja> +1 to t-shirts
14:32:53 <bengee> suise reports on cambridge meetings which have 30-40 people, but often differnet groups each meeting
14:33:30 <bengee> thnking about ideas for a panel
14:34:16 <bengee> another thought was bringing up problems that the expert attendees could provide ideas on
14:35:23 <bengee> s/suise/susie/ (sorry)
14:35:36 <LeeF> +1 informal gathering
14:35:39 <LeeF> +10 at pub
14:35:42 <bengee> heh
14:36:44 <LeeF> On that note - we're hoping SPARQL to Proposed Rec in... October maybe? So going to start revving up the SPARQL PR wagon
14:36:56 <bengee> possibly invite Harry to attend and sweo meeting
14:36:56 <danja> +1 to getting HarryH in
14:37:07 <LeeF> zakim, unmute me
14:37:07 <Zakim> LeeF should no longer be muted
14:37:48 <LeeF> zakim, mute me
14:37:48 <Zakim> LeeF should now be muted
14:39:03 <bengee> bay area meeting was similar to east-coast one, quite interesting discussions, similar size
14:39:32 <bengee> cambridge model is demo-focused
14:39:58 <bengee> a netherlands meeting could work
14:40:50 <bengee> re: "something to play with"
14:41:13 <bengee> could be addressed by the results of the community projects
14:41:42 <bengee> e.g. tabulator + linked open data
14:42:19 <bengee> already a nice setting for exploring how "linked data" works
14:43:02 <danja> incidentally, I've got some tutorial material in-progress for Talis Platform - it'll just be for existing rdf developers, but I do want to broaden to wider audience
14:43:16 <LeeF> BTW, TAG sent (some) comments on URI document to the SWEO list (Norm Walsh)
14:43:42 <bengee> simile's tools (e.g. potluck) also invite semweb exploring
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14:45:07 <PaulaP> bye
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14:45:10 <danja> hi kidehen
14:45:11 <Zakim> -PaulaP
14:45:13 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
14:45:13 <kidehen> hi
14:45:13 <Zakim> - +1.414.353.aadd
14:45:13 <danja> bye
14:45:15 <Zakim> -??P8
14:45:15 <Zakim> -leobard
14:45:17 <LeeF> zakim, unmute me
14:45:17 <Zakim> LeeF should no longer be muted
14:45:21 <Dunja> buy
14:45:33 <kidehen> well bye :-)
14:45:41 <leobard> hey, you said "lee, are you still there?" or, not "leo"?
14:45:46 <Zakim> -bengee
14:45:47 <kidehen> leobard: 
14:45:48 <leobard> I just hung up
14:46:03 <leobard> should I call back in?
14:46:05 <kidehen> leobard:  latest re. Gathering effort with Tim?
14:46:28 <Susie> I'm just learning how to do the minutes!
14:46:39 <Susie> rrsagent, make minutes
14:46:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/19-sweo-minutes.html Susie
14:46:44 <danja> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/WG/Group/scribing-guidelines.html
14:46:48 <leobard> kingsley: yep, I just wrote a mail, I completly blew it contacting tim last week
14:47:02 <danja> (may be a better doc than that)
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14:47:16 <Susie> rrsagent, make logs world-visible
14:47:16 <leobard> I am so stuck in stupid meta-work, that I never come down to triples anymore /00\
14:47:34 <Zakim> -danja
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