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19:51:50 <MichaelC> meeting: WCAG
19:51:57 <MichaelC> chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden
19:52:21 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007JulSep/0155.html
19:52:47 <MichaelC> regrets: Christophe_Strobbe, Roberto_Scano, Cynthia_Shelly
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19:59:03 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:00:06 <Zakim> +Cooper.a
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20:00:34 <Sofia> hi - what is the passcode?
20:00:43 <Zakim> +Alex_Li
20:00:43 <Zakim> +??P3
20:00:57 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
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20:01:16 <Sofia> zakim, Alex_Li has Sofia_Celic
20:01:16 <Zakim> +Sofia_Celic; got it
20:01:55 <Zakim> + +078750aaaa - is perhaps Sean_Hayes
20:02:02 <Ben> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:02:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.240.855.aaaa, Cooper.a, Alex_Li, Gregg_Vanderheiden, David_MacDonald, Sean_Hayes
20:02:04 <Zakim> Alex_Li has Sofia_Celic
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20:02:42 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
20:02:51 <MichaelC> scribe: Sofia
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20:05:19 <Gregg> try wcag1
20:05:25 <Zakim> +[IBM]
20:05:36 <MichaelC> -> Action items http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Action_Items
20:05:57 <MichaelC> -> Bugzilla outstanding issues http://tinyurl.com/2nwd2e
20:08:03 <Sofia> zakim, agenda?
20:08:03 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
20:08:58 <MichaelC> topic: Conformance and Understanding Proposals for 13 September 2007 <http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20070913conformance/results#xpartial>
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20:11:37 <Sofia> topic: Revised "Statement of partial conformance" Section
20:11:37 <Zakim> - +1.240.855.aaaa
20:12:53 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:12:57 <MichaelC> zakim, IBM is Andi_Snow-Weaver
20:12:57 <Zakim> +Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it
20:16:26 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept as revised
20:16:44 <Sofia> Topic: Revised "Conformance Claims" Section
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20:24:45 <Zakim> +??P7
20:24:57 <rellero__> Zakim, ?P7 is Roberto_Ellero
20:24:57 <Zakim> sorry, rellero__, I do not recognize a party named '?P7'
20:25:09 <rellero__> 04 01Zakim, ??P7 is Roberto_Ellero
20:25:23 <rellero__> Zakim, P7 is Roberto_Ellero
20:25:23 <Zakim> sorry, rellero__, I do not recognize a party named 'P7'
20:25:28 <rellero__> Zakim, ??P7 is Roberto_Ellero
20:25:28 <Zakim> +Roberto_Ellero; got it
20:26:03 <rellero__> sorry for the delay,  passcode was 92241 not 99241
20:28:38 <rellero__> :)
20:29:21 <MichaelC> q+
20:29:47 <MichaelC> q+ to say target audience, and to recommend adding "on thie site as a whole" to end of point
20:30:08 <David_MacDonald> q+
20:30:57 <Ben> q+ to say, "without relied upon, how can I test?"
20:30:58 <MichaelC> ack me
20:30:58 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say target audience, and to recommend adding "on thie site as a whole" to end of point
20:31:58 <Gregg> q+
20:32:59 <Sofia> ack d
20:33:29 <MichaelC> q+ Sean
20:33:39 <Sofia> ack b
20:33:39 <Zakim> Ben, you wanted to say, "without relied upon, how can I test?"
20:33:47 <MichaelC> +
20:33:48 <MichaelC> +1
20:34:09 <MichaelC> ack g
20:35:04 <Gregg> ack s
20:36:18 <David_MacDonald> q+
20:37:18 <MichaelC> q+ to say we have arguments to keep, acknowledgement that it may not benefit consumers - add something to Undertanding and move on?
20:37:18 <Gregg> ack d
20:38:25 <Gregg> ack m
20:38:25 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say we have arguments to keep, acknowledgement that it may not benefit consumers - add something to Undertanding and move on?
20:39:48 <David_MacDonald> q+
20:40:15 <Gregg> ack d
20:41:04 <MichaelC> q+ to say "content technologies"
20:42:15 <Gregg> ack m
20:42:15 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say "content technologies"
20:47:33 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept as amended
20:47:56 <Sofia> TOPIC: Revised "accessibility supported" Definition
20:49:01 <MichaelC> q+ to suggest we take Cynthia's suggestion of "widely available"
20:49:34 <Gregg> ack m
20:49:34 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to suggest we take Cynthia's suggestion of "widely available"
20:50:56 <Andi> q+
20:51:39 <MichaelC> q+ to say add a note that we're not defining users, therefore note defining users' AT - authors must make appropriate decisions
20:51:50 <Gregg> ack a
20:52:13 <Gregg> q+
20:53:03 <Gregg> ack m
20:53:03 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say add a note that we're not defining users, therefore note defining users' AT - authors must make appropriate decisions
20:53:08 <Gregg> ack g
21:29:04 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept as amended
21:29:21 <Sofia> Topic: Revised "Web page" Definition
21:46:26 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept as amended
21:48:23 <Sofia> Topic: Add a note about non-conforming content to 1.4.2
21:50:54 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept as amended
21:51:27 <Sofia> Topic: Add a note about non-conforming content to 2.1.1
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21:57:45 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: split keyboard trapping out into a new success criteria
21:58:10 <Sofia> Topic: Add a note about non-conforming content to 2.3.1
21:58:23 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept
21:58:35 <Zakim> +??P8
21:58:39 <Sofia> Topic: Combine 2.2.2 and 2.2.3 and add note about non-conforming content
22:00:22 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
22:03:12 <Zakim> -Nikolaos_Floratos
22:03:45 <Zakim> +??P5
22:07:35 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept as amended
22:09:18 <Sofia> ACTION: David to merge understanding doc for 2.2.2 and 2.2.3
22:09:47 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
22:09:55 <Sofia> Topic: Revised Introduction to "Understanding WCAG 2.0"
22:18:13 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept as amended with Sean's comments
22:18:43 <Sofia> Topic: "What does conformance mean?" (Section)
22:18:57 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept as amended
22:19:16 <Sofia> TOPIC: "Understanding Conformance Requirements" (Section)
22:22:20 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept
22:22:35 <Sofia> TOPIC: "Understanding Conformance Claims" (Section)
22:28:03 <Sofia> ACTION: Sean to write example of a metadata format to encapsulate conformance claims
22:28:47 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept as amended
22:29:06 <Sofia> Topic: "Understanding Levels of Conformance" (Section)
22:36:24 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept as amended
22:36:35 <Sofia> Topic: "Understanding Accessibility Support" (Section)
22:41:48 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept as amended
22:42:00 <Sofia> Topic: "Understanding Alternate Versions" (Section)
22:51:42 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept as amended
22:51:56 <Sofia> Topic: "Understanding 'Programmatically Determined'" (Section)"Understanding 'Programmatically Determined'" (Section)
22:52:20 <Sofia> s/"Understanding 'Programmatically Determined'" (Section)/
22:55:39 <MichaelC> action: Michael to write paragraph about the various ways to make something programmatically determined
22:55:58 <Zakim> -Nikolaos_Floratos
22:58:32 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept as amended
22:58:54 <Sofia> Topic: "Understanding Web Page'" (Section)
23:02:20 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept as amended
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23:19:37 <Zakim> Attendees were Bruce_Bailey, Cooper.a, David_MacDonald, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Sofia_Celic, +078750aaaa, Tim_Boland, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Roberto_Ellero, Nikolaos_Floratos
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