14:27:29 RRSAgent has joined #dawg 14:27:29 logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-dawg-irc 14:27:34 zakim, this will be dawg 14:27:34 ok, LeeF_; I see SW_DAWG()10:30AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes 14:27:56 SW_DAWG()10:30AM has now started 14:28:01 Meeting: RDF Data Access Weekly 14:28:03 +LeeF 14:28:04 Chair: LeeF 14:28:06 Scribe: ?? 14:28:46 +??P16 14:28:47 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0092.html 14:28:56 LeeF_ has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0092.html 14:28:56 zakim, ??P16 is me 14:28:56 +AndyS; got it 14:30:02 Zakim, please dial ericP-xx 14:30:02 ok, ericP; the call is being made 14:30:05 +EricP 14:33:22 SteveH, should we wait for you? 14:33:31 iv_an_ru, are you around? 14:37:06 :open-eq-12 is an example of this 14:37:11 topic: mf:requires 14:37:36 LeeF: We have some mf:requires annotations in the open-world directory at least, should be documented 14:38:11 +??P0 14:39:56 zakim, who is on the phone? 14:39:56 On the phone I see LeeF, AndyS, EricP, ??P0 14:40:14 zakim, ??P0 is Orri 14:40:14 +Orri; got it 14:43:29 LeeF: there are 6 mf:require's 14:43:38 ... some are things that follow the spec. but are not required 14:43:50 ... e.g. mf:KnownTypesDefault2Ne 14:44:01 ... others are things which do follow the letter of the spec and are required, but are 'tricky' 14:44:20 ... e.g. mf:LangCaseInsensitivity and mf:IllFormedLiteral 14:45:23 http://www.w3.org/mid/p06230905c2dd1a40d200@[10.100.0.67] 14:45:27 LeeF_, sorry, was AFK, no dont wait 14:46:50 -> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-concepts/#section-Literal-Value 14:47:15 + +0207735aaaa 14:47:31 Zakim, +0207735aaaa is SteveH 14:47:31 +SteveH; got it 14:48:20 """Has no value associated with the typed literal.""" 14:50:39 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0089.html tests to approve 14:53:21 PROPOSED: Approve the first 6 tests in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0089.html 14:53:42 ericP seconds 14:54:01 RESOLVED, SteveH abstaining 14:54:57 PROPOSED: Approve the last 3 tests in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0089.html 14:55:04 ericP seconds 14:55:14 RESOLVED 14:57:09 PROPOSED: The tests in data-r2 as of 2007-08-21 along with today's approvals constitute the test suite for the SPARQL Query Language and the basis for an implementation report 14:57:31 AndyS seconds 14:57:42 RESOLVED 14:58:28 -> http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-software-20021231 W3C Software License 14:58:46 -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/r2 overview page 15:02:20 (discussion of who holds copyrigt on test materials and use of the W3C license) 15:02:53 ACTION: LeeF to generate archive of test materials which includes license 15:03:20 ACTION: LeeF to advertise existence of test materials and solicit implementation reports 15:04:23 topic: test service 15:04:28 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0086.html LeeF response to IvanM 15:06:50 Orri: reasonable to support endpoints that will fetch graphs over HTTP 15:06:55 ... will talk to IvanM 15:08:19 LeeF: Richard Newman (twinql) asked for the service and might have an endpoint against which it can be tested 15:08:34 ... not necessary to be 100% bug-fre ebefore advertising the service 15:09:36 topic: implementation report 15:16:21 LeeF: I suggest a Sept 18 deadline for asking for implementation reports 15:16:39 ... as a time when we will try to fulfill our CR exit criteria and ask to advance to PR 15:17:22 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0049.html Lee's email on facets and features 15:21:58 AndyS: feature - split into description of dataset and querying the dataset 15:23:58 LeeF: Do we want a feature which is something like "full syntax support"? 15:24:17 ericP: why not? 15:25:41 LeeF: There are other parts of SPARQL that we test for that are not called out explicitly in the proposed feature list... what's the right level of granularity? 15:26:25 topic: datatype() and other builtins 15:26:41 AndyS: Spec says they take a literal and grammar allows an expression 15:26:51 datatype(?x + ?y) 15:27:37 datatype(1 || 0) 15:34:49 ACTION: LeeF and ericP to write tests for uncovered facets [DONE] 15:34:58 ACTION: ericP to poke IETF folks about registering SPARQL media types (esp. application/sparql-query) [CONTINUES] 15:35:11 ACTION: ericP to write explanatory text saying that, like xsd:inteter and xsd:dateTime, the relative order of simple literals and xsd:strings is not defined here [CONTINUES] 15:35:19 ACTION: ericP to answer "EBV of invalid numeric literals" email from Arjohn [CONTINUES] 15:35:28 ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing [CONTINUES] 15:35:36 -SteveH 15:35:39 ACTION: Eric+Andy to identify and collect mf:requires URIs and put in documentation [CONTINUES] 15:35:41 This email?? http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006OctDec/0113.html 15:36:21 ACTION: ericP, AndyS to add the mf:requires labels to the manifest namespace document [CONTINUES] 15:36:29 ACTION: ericP to incorporate text to fix EBV of illformed numeric literals bug in spec [CONTINUES] 15:36:33 adjourned. 15:36:46 RRSAgent, make minutes 15:36:46 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-dawg-minutes.html LeeF_ 15:36:51 RRSAgent, make logs world-access 15:41:18 -LeeF 15:41:21 -Orri 15:41:28 -AndyS 15:41:38 -EricP 15:41:39 SW_DAWG()10:30AM has ended 15:41:41 Attendees were LeeF, AndyS, EricP, Orri, SteveH 16:02:31 LeeF has joined #dawg 16:03:46 RRSAgent, bye 16:03:46 I see 10 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-dawg-actions.rdf : 16:03:46 ACTION: LeeF to generate archive of test materials which includes license [1] 16:03:46 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-dawg-irc#T15-02-53 16:03:46 ACTION: LeeF to advertise existence of test materials and solicit implementation reports [2] 16:03:46 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-dawg-irc#T15-03-20 16:03:46 ACTION: LeeF and ericP to write tests for uncovered facets [DONE] [3] 16:03:46 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-dawg-irc#T15-34-49 16:03:46 ACTION: ericP to poke IETF folks about registering SPARQL media types (esp. application/sparql-query) [CONTINUES] [4] 16:03:46 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-dawg-irc#T15-34-58 16:03:46 ACTION: ericP to write explanatory text saying that, like xsd:inteter and xsd:dateTime, the relative order of simple literals and xsd:strings is not defined here [CONTINUES] [5] 16:03:46 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-dawg-irc#T15-35-11 16:03:46 ACTION: ericP to answer "EBV of invalid numeric literals" email from Arjohn [CONTINUES] [6] 16:03:46 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-dawg-irc#T15-35-19 16:03:46 ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing [CONTINUES] [7] 16:03:46 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-dawg-irc#T15-35-28 16:03:46 ACTION: Eric+Andy to identify and collect mf:requires URIs and put in documentation [CONTINUES] [8] 16:03:46 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-dawg-irc#T15-35-39 16:03:46 ACTION: ericP, AndyS to add the mf:requires labels to the manifest namespace document [CONTINUES] [9] 16:03:46 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-dawg-irc#T15-36-21 16:03:46 ACTION: ericP to incorporate text to fix EBV of illformed numeric literals bug in spec [CONTINUES] [10] 16:03:46 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-dawg-irc#T15-36-29 16:03:48 zakim, bye 16:03:48 Zakim has left #dawg