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13:52:30 <shadi> zakim, this will be ert
13:52:30 <Zakim> ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
13:53:33 <shadi> Meeting: ERT WG
13:53:39 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0054.html
13:53:43 <shadi> chair: Shadi
13:54:00 <shadi> agenda+ Inferred test results
13:54:13 <shadi> agenda+ Changes on earl:Content class
13:54:23 <shadi> agenda+ Plan for publishing EARL 1.0 Guide
13:54:36 <shadi> agenda+ Requirements for Pointer Methods in RDF
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14:00:54 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has now started
14:00:57 <Zakim> +Dialer
14:01:01 <Zakim> -Dialer
14:01:05 <Zakim> +Shadi
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14:03:46 <Zakim> +Klaus/Johannes/Thomas
14:04:45 <CarlosV> zakim, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas is really CarlosV
14:04:45 <Zakim> +CarlosV; got it
14:05:02 <Zakim> + +43.702.468.aaaa
14:05:22 <shadi> zakim, aaaa is really Reinhard
14:05:22 <Zakim> +Reinhard; got it
14:09:08 <shadi> scribe: Reinhard
14:09:20 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:09:20 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Inferred test results" taken up [from shadi]
14:09:33 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0052
14:09:43 <shadi> earl:inferred
14:11:21 <Reinhard> SAZ: Discussion was to remove it, but its not really a modifier. Base for discussion is the example of my post to the mailinglist
14:12:16 <Reinhard> SAZ: Is arguing to have earl:infered as a test result
14:13:53 <Reinhard> RR: I think option B would be a good solution
14:15:24 <Reinhard> CV: When looking at test results it doesn't matter how the tests were executed
14:16:23 <Reinhard> CV: test result vs. test mode
14:19:08 <Reinhard> SAZ: I assume that "inferred" as term is not adequate
14:20:47 <Reinhard> CV: I propose to leave it out completly
14:21:03 <Reinhard> SAZ: This doesn't seem to be agood choice to me
14:21:38 <Reinhard> SAZ: How about "composite" as term?
14:22:43 <Reinhard> CV: I want to know if the test has been executed manual or automatic
14:23:25 <Reinhard> CV: It doesn't make sense to aggregate test modes
14:26:55 <Reinhard> RR: At the test summary in the report it makes sense to see at least how the test was executed
14:28:48 <Reinhard> SAZ: Many tools do not give information on the test cases but only on results
14:31:01 <Reinhard> SAZ: Keep it for further discussion on the list
14:31:39 <shadi> zakim, take up next
14:31:39 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Changes on earl:Content class" taken up [from shadi]
14:31:59 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-EARL10-Schema-20070323/#content
14:32:11 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/issues#cont
14:32:32 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0053
14:32:47 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/identify.html
14:33:40 <Reinhard> SAZ: A lot has been discussed about describing resources
14:35:43 <Reinhard> SAZ: Information is the same, but, presentation of the resources can chang due to content negotiation issues
14:38:07 <Reinhard> SAZ: Example: Viewing www.google.com with a Web-Broser vs. a Cell Phone --> Both is still the search page (Information) but different presentation
14:43:28 <Reinhard> SAZ: We need to re-think our terms
14:45:15 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-webarch-20041215/#def-information-resource
14:46:36 <Reinhard> SAZ: Terms like "resource" have a formal definition and wen need to keep that in mind
14:49:12 <Reinhard> CV: sourceCopy can be used with XML but not with HTML,  so we need to be carefult with what we recomend
14:51:28 <shadi> action: SAZ remove xml:lang="en" from example 13 (shouldn't be in the literal but in the XHTML itself)
14:54:26 <Reinhard> CV: Discussion on Issue #9
14:55:57 <Reinhard> CV: Use byte64 Literals instead of dataURI
14:56:15 <shadi> action: SAZ move issue #9 to EARL 1.0 Schema
14:57:16 <Reinhard> SAZ: Issue #10 seems to be editorial
14:57:58 <shadi> action: SAZ make issue #10 editorial and change accordingly
15:06:24 <Zakim> -Reinhard
15:06:25 <Zakim> -Shadi
15:06:26 <Zakim> -CarlosV
15:06:31 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has ended
15:06:32 <Zakim> Attendees were Dialer, Shadi, CarlosV, +43.702.468.aaaa, Reinhard
15:07:09 <shadi> zakim, bye
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15:07:17 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
15:07:21 <shadi> rrsagent, make minutes
15:07:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/01-er-minutes.html shadi
15:07:22 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
15:07:28 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
15:07:28 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/01-er-actions.rdf :
15:07:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SAZ remove xml:lang="en" from example 13 (shouldn't be in the literal but in the XHTML itself) [1]
15:07:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/01-er-irc#T14-51-28
15:07:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SAZ move issue #9 to EARL 1.0 Schema [2]
15:07:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/01-er-irc#T14-56-15
15:07:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SAZ make issue #10 editorial and change accordingly [3]
15:07:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/01-er-irc#T14-57-58