IRC log of BioRDF on 2007-07-23

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15:04:00 [alanr]
Jonathan Status
15:04:12 [alanr]
thinking about Reference and meaning and how it relates to the web
15:04:20 [alanr]
lot more confusing then he thought a week ago
15:04:33 [alanr]
prefers to not give out draft at the moment.
15:04:46 [alanr]
would prefer to work one on one with a series of people rather than in a group
15:05:11 [alanr]
ss: would it make sense to have another informal f2f?
15:05:35 [alanr]
jr: some time in the fall when he has something that makes sense to at least 3 people. don't schedule now
15:05:42 [ericP]
agenda+ Update on progress of URI note [Jonathan]
15:05:42 [ericP]
agenda+ Progress report on extending the demo [Alan]
15:05:42 [ericP]
agenda+ Charter extension [Eric]
15:05:42 [ericP]
agenda+ AOB [Susie]
15:06:38 [alanr]
ss: when to target date for note?
15:06:54 [alanr]
jr: need to get it right
15:06:58 [alanr]
ss: end of october?
15:07:31 [alanr]
jr: Have at least one draft of the thing approved by some time in october.
15:07:48 [alanr]
ss: target end of september for "fairly finished"?
15:08:13 [alanr]
jr: Will be circulating drafts during sept
15:08:35 [alanr]
jr: hedges on end of september date. hopeful but.
15:08:49 [alanr]
ss: anything we can do to help?
15:09:37 [ericP]
Zakim, please dial ericP-office
15:09:37 [Zakim]
sorry, ericP, I don't know what conference this is
15:09:39 [alanr]
jr: not as a group - will find series of individuals (stakeholders?) run them through the whole thing. Meaning, definitions, access and get feedback.
15:09:45 [ericP]
Zakim, this is BioRDF
15:09:45 [Zakim]
ok, ericP; that matches SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM
15:10:00 [ericP]
Zakim, please dial ericP-office
15:10:00 [Zakim]
ok, ericP; the call is being made
15:10:20 [ericP]
Zakim, who is here?
15:10:20 [Zakim]
On the phone I see +1.781.662.aaaa, Don_Doherty, Jonathan_Rees, John_Barkley
15:10:22 [Zakim]
On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, alanr, Susie, Don, ericP
15:10:26 [alanr]
jr: Entry into the select few requires commitment to 3-4 hours. jr will keep group abreast of who he is talking to.
15:10:54 [ericP]
Zakim, please disconnect ericP-office
15:10:54 [Zakim]
sorry, ericP, I do not see a party named 'ericP-office'
15:10:59 [ericP]
Zakim, please disconnect ericP
15:10:59 [Zakim]
sorry, ericP, I do not see a party named 'ericP'
15:11:03 [ericP]
Zakim, please dial ericP-office
15:11:03 [Zakim]
ok, ericP; the call is being made
15:11:04 [alanr]
jr: question: open access issue. May be published as SC white paper that W3C can use.
15:11:20 [alanr]
no
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15:11:55 [alanr]
yes
15:12:01 [Zakim]
+EricP
15:12:58 [alanr]
ep: where does w3 differ from open access?
15:13:11 [alanr]
jar: copyright notice at top of pages
15:13:28 [alanr]
jr: have to pay attention to the cache headers
15:13:56 [alanr]
ep: MIT license for software. For documents.... EP will investigate
15:14:24 [alanr]
action+ ericp will look into open access licensing vs. current w3 policy
15:14:45 [alanr]
ep: hash/slash content-neg meeting setup?
15:15:06 [jar286]
where are your notes?
15:15:24 [alanr]
ep: has added clarification of hash/slash to bottom of ______
15:15:44 [jar286]
maybe it's http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Tasks/URI_Best_Practices/Recommendations/DraftTalk
15:16:22 [alanr]
see Differentiating Between Web Resources and What They Describe [ericP]
15:17:16 [alanr]
alan notes that 303 doesn't say this is a non-document, it says it might not be a document.
15:17:36 [jar286]
issues with 303 and # are numerous, e.g. how to get metadata for a document, predictability
15:18:16 [jar286]
follow your nose doesn't work for HCLS, I believe.
15:18:19 [alanr]
action+ eric will meet with jonathan to talk about his discussions
15:18:35 [alanr]
end of agenda 1
15:19:00 [alanr]
jb: log analysis
15:19:19 [alanr]
http://www.w3.org/mid/651e01c7cd1d$296f3c90$8a3a0681@ncsl.nist.gov
15:20:35 [alanr]
don: setting up demo replicate
15:20:56 [alanr]
alan corresponding with instructions
15:21:24 [alanr]
I suggest putting it out as it is created...
15:21:32 [alanr]
ss: put on wiki?
15:22:05 [alanr]
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/Banff2007Demo
15:23:47 [alanr]
don: sfn poster lead
15:24:04 [alanr]
put the instructions for the demo here: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/Banff2007Demo/HCLS/Banff2007Demo/HowToMakeOneForYourself
15:24:40 [alanr]
ss: 1st monday in september for update on main panels for the sfn poster?
15:24:44 [alanr]
don: concurs
15:25:20 [alanr]
don: poster date nov 7. Final version end of october.
15:27:37 [alanr]
wright state ready to install. Deri has machine but is not set up yet.
15:27:58 [alanr]
alan will try to do wright state this week.
15:33:52 [alanr]
ss: will ask around lilly for interest in drugdb
15:34:16 [alanr]
alan coming up: Jax visit, ABI visit, RGD for biocuration meeting.
15:35:28 [alanr]
charter extended: http://www.w3.org/mid/E7092F10DB73FA43AE0E59F2DCDAA6360A9168@MI8NYCMAIL04.Mi8.com
15:36:23 [alanr]
vipul announces new collab - implications for demo?
15:36:58 [jar286]
ha. I think it just means I won't be fired this month for neglecting real work.
15:37:19 [alanr]
ss: What else can we do to extend demo?
15:37:33 [alanr]
means that I have a work partner again :)
15:39:18 [alanr]
ss: suggests sending out an email soliciting ideas for additions to the demo
15:39:22 [alanr]
all concur
15:39:56 [alanr]
we are happy that the call lasted only 40 minutes.
15:40:04 [alanr]
bye everyone
15:40:08 [Zakim]
-John_Barkley
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-EricP
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- +1.781.662.aaaa
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-Jonathan_Rees
15:40:11 [Zakim]
-Don_Doherty
15:40:13 [Zakim]
SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM has ended
15:40:14 [Zakim]
Attendees were Don_Doherty, +1.781.662.aaaa, Jonathan_Rees, John_Barkley, EricP
15:40:35 [ericP]
Zakim, please draft minutes
15:40:35 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'please draft minutes', ericP
15:40:45 [ericP]
RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:40:45 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/23-BioRDF-minutes.html ericP
15:41:00 [ericP]
RRSAgent, please make minutes world-visible
15:41:00 [RRSAgent]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'please make minutes world-visible', ericP. Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:41:12 [ericP]
RRSAgent, please make log world-visible
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18:05:57 [jar286]
ericP, r u ready?
18:09:28 [ericP]
got taken up in another meeting
18:09:33 [ericP]
avail in 30 mins
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