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15:04:00 <alanr> Jonathan Status
15:04:12 <alanr> thinking about Reference and meaning and how it relates to the web
15:04:20 <alanr> lot more confusing then he thought a week ago
15:04:33 <alanr> prefers to not give out draft at the moment.
15:04:46 <alanr> would prefer to work one on one with a series of people rather than in a group
15:05:11 <alanr> ss: would it make sense to have another informal f2f?
15:05:35 <alanr> jr: some time in the fall when he has something that makes sense to at least 3 people. don't schedule now
15:05:42 <ericP> agenda+ Update on progress of URI note [Jonathan]
15:05:42 <ericP> agenda+ Progress report on extending the demo [Alan]
15:05:42 <ericP> agenda+ Charter extension [Eric]
15:05:42 <ericP> agenda+ AOB [Susie]
15:06:38 <alanr> ss: when to target date for note?
15:06:54 <alanr> jr: need to get it right
15:06:58 <alanr> ss: end of october?
15:07:31 <alanr> jr: Have at least one draft of the thing approved by some time in october.
15:07:48 <alanr> ss: target end of september for "fairly finished"?
15:08:13 <alanr> jr: Will be circulating drafts during sept
15:08:35 <alanr> jr: hedges on end of september date. hopeful but.
15:08:49 <alanr> ss: anything we can do to help?
15:09:37 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office
15:09:37 <Zakim> sorry, ericP, I don't know what conference this is
15:09:39 <alanr> jr: not as a group - will find series of individuals (stakeholders?) run them through the whole thing. Meaning, definitions, access and get feedback.
15:09:45 <ericP> Zakim, this is BioRDF
15:09:45 <Zakim> ok, ericP; that matches SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM
15:10:00 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office
15:10:00 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
15:10:20 <ericP> Zakim, who is here?
15:10:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.781.662.aaaa, Don_Doherty, Jonathan_Rees, John_Barkley
15:10:22 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, alanr, Susie, Don, ericP
15:10:26 <alanr> jr: Entry into the select few requires commitment to 3-4 hours. jr will keep group abreast of who he is talking to.
15:10:54 <ericP> Zakim, please disconnect ericP-office
15:10:54 <Zakim> sorry, ericP, I do not see a party named 'ericP-office'
15:10:59 <ericP> Zakim, please disconnect ericP
15:10:59 <Zakim> sorry, ericP, I do not see a party named 'ericP'
15:11:03 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office
15:11:03 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
15:11:04 <alanr> jr: question: open access issue. May be published as SC white paper that W3C can use. 
15:11:20 <alanr> no
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15:11:55 <alanr> yes
15:12:01 <Zakim> +EricP
15:12:58 <alanr> ep: where does w3 differ from open access?
15:13:11 <alanr> jar: copyright notice at top of pages
15:13:28 <alanr> jr: have to pay attention to the cache headers
15:13:56 <alanr> ep: MIT license for software. For documents.... EP will investigate
15:14:24 <alanr> action+ ericp will look into open access licensing vs. current w3 policy
15:14:45 <alanr> ep: hash/slash content-neg meeting setup?
15:15:06 <jar286> where are your notes?
15:15:24 <alanr> ep: has added clarification of hash/slash to bottom of ______
15:15:44 <jar286> maybe it's http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Tasks/URI_Best_Practices/Recommendations/DraftTalk
15:16:22 <alanr> see Differentiating Between Web Resources and What They Describe [ericP]
15:17:16 <alanr> alan notes that 303 doesn't say this is a non-document, it says it might not be a document.
15:17:36 <jar286> issues with 303 and # are numerous, e.g. how to get metadata for a document, predictability
15:18:16 <jar286> follow your nose doesn't work for HCLS, I believe.
15:18:19 <alanr> action+ eric will meet with jonathan to talk about his discussions
15:18:35 <alanr> end of agenda 1
15:19:00 <alanr> jb: log analysis
15:19:19 <alanr> http://www.w3.org/mid/651e01c7cd1d$296f3c90$8a3a0681@ncsl.nist.gov
15:20:35 <alanr> don: setting up demo replicate
15:20:56 <alanr> alan corresponding with instructions
15:21:24 <alanr> I suggest putting it out as it is created...
15:21:32 <alanr> ss: put on wiki?
15:22:05 <alanr> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/Banff2007Demo
15:23:47 <alanr> don: sfn poster lead
15:24:04 <alanr> put the instructions for the demo here: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/Banff2007Demo/HCLS/Banff2007Demo/HowToMakeOneForYourself
15:24:40 <alanr> ss: 1st monday in september for update on main panels for the sfn poster?
15:24:44 <alanr> don: concurs
15:25:20 <alanr> don: poster date nov 7. Final version end of october.
15:27:37 <alanr> wright state ready to install. Deri has machine but is not set up yet.
15:27:58 <alanr> alan will try to do wright state this week.
15:33:52 <alanr> ss: will ask around lilly for interest in drugdb
15:34:16 <alanr> alan coming up: Jax visit, ABI visit, RGD for biocuration meeting.
15:35:28 <alanr> charter extended: http://www.w3.org/mid/E7092F10DB73FA43AE0E59F2DCDAA6360A9168@MI8NYCMAIL04.Mi8.com
15:36:23 <alanr> vipul announces new collab - implications for demo?
15:36:58 <jar286> ha.  I think it just means I won't be fired this month for neglecting real work.
15:37:19 <alanr> ss: What else can we do to extend demo?
15:37:33 <alanr> means that I have a work partner again :)
15:39:18 <alanr> ss: suggests sending out an email soliciting ideas for additions to the demo
15:39:22 <alanr> all concur
15:39:56 <alanr> we are happy that the call lasted only 40 minutes.
15:40:04 <alanr> bye everyone
15:40:08 <Zakim> -John_Barkley
15:40:09 <Zakim> -EricP
15:40:10 <Zakim> - +1.781.662.aaaa
15:40:11 <Zakim> -Jonathan_Rees
15:40:11 <Zakim> -Don_Doherty
15:40:13 <Zakim> SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM has ended
15:40:14 <Zakim> Attendees were Don_Doherty, +1.781.662.aaaa, Jonathan_Rees, John_Barkley, EricP
15:40:35 <ericP> Zakim, please draft minutes
15:40:35 <Zakim> I don't understand 'please draft minutes', ericP
15:40:45 <ericP> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:40:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/23-BioRDF-minutes.html ericP
15:41:00 <ericP> RRSAgent, please make minutes world-visible
15:41:00 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'please make minutes world-visible', ericP.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:41:12 <ericP> RRSAgent, please make log world-visible
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18:05:57 <jar286> ericP, r u ready?
18:09:28 <ericP> got taken up in another meeting
18:09:33 <ericP> avail in 30 mins
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