IRC log of xmlsec on 2007-06-26

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12:28:53 [tlr]

zakim, this will be xmlsec

12:28:53 [Zakim]

ok, tlr; I see T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM scheduled to start in 32 minutes

12:29:04 [tlr]

Meeting: XML Security Specifications Maintenance WG

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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Jun/0072.html

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I take it that the IRC Setup in Scribe-Instructions has been pre-done for me, as scribe, and I can focus solely on the "Scribe Tasks"

12:51:57 [fjh2]

zakim, this will be xmlsec

12:51:57 [Zakim]

ok, fjh2; I see T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes

12:52:10 [fjh2]

Meeting: XML Security Specifications Maintenance WG Conference Call

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Chair: Frederick Hirsch

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ScribeNick: EdS

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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Jun/0078.html

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RRSAgent, make log public

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TOPIC: Administrivia: scribe confirmation, next meeting, other

12:54:12 [fjh2]

zakim, who is here?

12:54:12 [Zakim]

T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has not yet started, fjh2

12:54:14 [Zakim]

On IRC I see fjh2, EdS, RRSAgent, Zakim, tlr, klanz2, trackbot-ng

12:55:41 [fjh2]

zakim, what is the code?

12:55:41 [Zakim]

the conference code is 965732 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), fjh2

12:55:44 [EdS]

Yes, I have.

12:55:48 [Zakim]

T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has now started

12:55:49 [klanz2]

I'll be 5 minutes late to call in, sorry

12:55:54 [Zakim]

+Frederick_Hirsch

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PRESENT: Konrad Lanz, Frederick Hirsch, Ed Simon, Thomas Roessler

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Present+ Juan Carlos Cruellas

12:57:31 [Zakim]

+EdS

12:57:44 [sean]

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12:57:51 [tlr]

zakim, call thomas-skype

12:57:51 [Zakim]

ok, tlr; the call is being made

12:57:52 [Zakim]

+Thomas

12:57:58 [fjh2]

Present+ Sean Mullen

12:58:14 [tlr]

mhhh... is my voicemail talking to you, Ed?

12:58:19 [fjh2]

Present+ Sean Mullan

12:58:24 [tlr]

zakim, drop thomas-skype

12:58:24 [Zakim]

sorry, tlr, I do not see a party named 'thomas-skype'

12:58:29 [tlr]

zakim, drop thomas

12:58:29 [Zakim]

Thomas is being disconnected

12:58:30 [Zakim]

-Thomas

12:58:31 [tlr]

zakim, call thomas-skype

12:58:31 [Zakim]

ok, tlr; the call is being made

12:58:33 [Zakim]

+Thomas

12:58:34 [fjh2]

Present- Sean Mullen

12:58:41 [Zakim]

+[IPcaller]

12:58:45 [tlr]

zakim, who is on the call?

12:58:45 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Frederick_Hirsch, EdS, Thomas, [IPcaller]

12:58:51 [tlr]

zakim, IPcaller is JuanCarlos

12:58:51 [Zakim]

+JuanCarlos; got it

12:59:10 [Zakim]

+SeanMullen

12:59:16 [EdS]

zakim, who is here

12:59:16 [Zakim]

EdS, you need to end that query with '?'

12:59:20 [tlr]

Present+ SeanMullen

12:59:25 [EdS]

zakim, who is here?

12:59:25 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Frederick_Hirsch, EdS, Thomas, JuanCarlos, SeanMullen

12:59:27 [Zakim]

On IRC I see sean, jcc, fjh2, EdS, RRSAgent, Zakim, tlr, klanz2, trackbot-ng

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+RobMiller

13:01:39 [fjh2]

Present+ Rob Miller

13:02:26 [EdS]

topic: Administrivia: scribe confirmation, next meeting, other

13:02:41 [EdS]

No meeting on July 3, Hal Scribing July 10

13:03:24 [EdS]

Please solicit position papers for meeting at VeriSign headquarters and indicate availability.

13:03:48 [EdS]

XML Core OK with us updating XML Signature note.

13:04:47 [EdS]

Resolution: Minutes of last week are approved.

13:04:56 [tlr]

eds, please scribe in the "fjh: something" form to attribute who says something.

13:05:36 [EdS]

Action-26: Open

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Action-26 Open

13:05:48 [tlr]

I have just updated the interop participation questionnaire to close on 30 June.

13:05:50 [tlr]

eds, perfect

13:06:11 [Zakim]

+??P13

13:06:14 [EdS]

Action-25 on Rich Salz is still open;

13:06:14 [klanz2]

zakim, ? is klanz2

13:06:15 [Zakim]

+klanz2; got it

13:06:27 [EdS]

fjh will contact Rich on action-25

13:06:32 [klanz2]

zakim, mute me#+

13:06:32 [Zakim]

sorry, klanz2, I do not know which phone connection belongs to me#+

13:06:38 [klanz2]

zakim, mute me

13:06:38 [Zakim]

klanz2 should now be muted

13:06:56 [Zakim]

+deastl

13:06:57 [EdS]

action-37: closed

13:07:17 [fjh2]

Present+ Donald Eastlake

13:07:31 [EdS]

action-38: Closed

13:08:28 [EdS]

Note that Tracker was down for this meeting.

13:08:38 [tlr]

nope, it works again

13:08:50 [tlr]

it was down yesterday when Frederick prepared the agenda

13:09:44 [EdS]

jcc: Action-48 should be closed re minutes of last meeting, no change to doc was necessary

13:09:56 [EdS]

Action-48: Closed

13:10:08 [EdS]

Action-48 closed

13:10:08 [trackbot-ng]

Sorry... I don't know how to close ACTION yet

13:11:07 [tlr]

ACTION-50 open, ACTION-54 closed, ACTION-55 closed

13:11:14 [EdS]

Actions 54 and 55 are closed.

13:11:41 [EdS]

Topic: Interop planning

13:11:54 [EdS]

fjh: should interop be open or closed?

13:12:12 [klanz2]

+1 to open

13:12:15 [EdS]

fjh: is additional interop from outside wanted?

13:12:15 [sean]

+1

13:12:19 [EdS]

+1

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13:12:29 [deastlak]

I think it should be open...

13:12:30 [PHB2]

zakim, code?

13:12:30 [Zakim]

the conference code is 965732 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), PHB2

13:12:33 [tlr]

q+ to ask that we close ACTION-52

13:12:39 [EdS]

Rob Miller says +1

13:12:47 [tlr]

q-

13:12:49 [tlr]

q+

13:12:49 [EdS]

Rob Miller attempting to get others involved.

13:12:58 [fjh2]

Present: Phill Hallam Baker

13:13:10 [EdS]

tlr +1

13:13:13 [Zakim]

+PHB

13:13:26 [klanz2]

q+

13:14:05 [EdS]

tlr: we should invite XML Core as co-sponsors for interop

13:14:12 [klanz2]

q-

13:15:16 [tlr]

RESOLUTION: interop to be open, invite XML Core to co-sponsor

13:15:17 [EdS]

Resolution: Interop will be open and we will attemp to co-sponsor with XML Core

13:15:49 [EdS]

fjh: Phb2 confirms VeriSign will host

13:16:11 [EdS]

tlr: 10-15 people expected.

13:16:50 [klanz2]

;-)

13:17:46 [EdS]

phb2: room confirmed for 20 people

13:19:02 [EdS]

fjh: we need test cases for interop

13:19:11 [EdS]

fjh: please respond to questionaire

13:19:57 [EdS]

tlr: we need to collect old test cases, create new test cases

13:20:05 [EdS]

tlr: need action item for test cases

13:21:49 [EdS]

we need a point person for test cases for the WB

13:21:54 [EdS]

s/WB/WG

13:21:56 [klanz2]

q+

13:23:00 [tlr]

fine with me as well

13:23:07 [EdS]

fjh: use wiki for test cases?

13:23:19 [tlr]

+1 to using wiki; hadn't thought of it

13:24:04 [tlr]

ack kl

13:24:05 [klanz2]

zakim, unmute me

13:24:08 [Zakim]

klanz2 was not muted, klanz2

13:24:10 [fjh2]

ack

13:24:15 [fjh2]

ack tlr

13:24:20 [fjh2]

ack klanz2

13:24:37 [EdS]

klanz2: +1 to wiki, also CVS a good idea, will contribute test cases

13:24:50 [EdS]

fjh: we should use CVS for test cases and wiki

13:25:32 [EdS]

Action: tlr to set up test case infrastructure

13:25:32 [trackbot-ng]

Sorry, couldn't find user - tlr

13:25:52 [tlr]

ACTION: thomas to give Juan Carlos, Sean, Konrad access to interop web space in CVS

13:25:53 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-56 - Give Juan Carlos, Sean, Konrad access to interop web space in CVS [on Thomas Roessler - due 2007-07-03].

13:26:41 [tlr]

actually, the thing is supposed to recognize "tlr"...

13:27:58 [EdS]

action: jcc to get us started on test cases

13:27:58 [trackbot-ng]

Sorry, couldn't find user - jcc

13:28:21 [tlr]

action: cruellas to get us started on test cases

13:28:25 [EdS]

action: juan carlos to get us started on test cases

13:28:37 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-57 - Get us started on test cases [on Juan Carlos Cruellas - due 2007-07-03].

13:28:37 [trackbot-ng]

Sorry, couldn't find user - juan

13:29:32 [EdS]

fjh: juan create outline of test cases and indicate links to previous test cases

13:29:36 [klanz2]

q+

13:29:42 [klanz2]

one sec

13:29:52 [klanz2]

ack kl

13:29:52 [tlr]

ack klanz

13:30:28 [EdS]

klanz2: will supply unit cases

13:31:06 [EdS]

klanz2: will post cases to list

13:31:37 [EdS]

fjh: put "[TESTCASE]" in subject line for posts related to test cases

13:31:37 [klanz2]

[InterOp-Testcase]

13:32:14 [EdS]

use Konrad's identifier for test case emails

13:32:26 [tlr]

Topic: action garbage collection

13:32:29 [tlr]

ACTION-52 done

13:32:30 [EdS]

Action-52: Closed

13:32:53 [fjh2]

http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/Drafts/xmldsig-core/#sec-X509Data

13:32:54 [jcc]

q+

13:33:30 [EdS]

topic: XML Signature Draft

13:33:33 [fjh2]

should" to "MAY" at end of 4.4.4

13:33:43 [fjh2]

reference to RFC2253 updated to RFC4515

13:34:07 [fjh2]

conversion of last bullet to additional text, since not augmentation of encoding rules

13:34:25 [fjh2]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Jun/0071.html

13:34:45 [fjh2]

s/the string encoding rules in section 2.4/the character escaping rules in section 2.4/

13:35:22 [EdS]

konrad: dname encoding is clarified as optional

13:36:20 [EdS]

konrad: should say "Character-encoding" rules

13:36:46 [EdS]

jcc: rfc4514 not restricted just to ASCII, talks of Unicode

13:36:56 [klanz2]

s/"Character-encoding"/"Character-escaping"/

13:37:06 [tlr]

q+ to note that 2253 isn't limited to ASCII either

13:37:14 [fjh2]

ack jcc

13:37:29 [jcc]

one of the characters '"', '+', ',', ';', '<', '>', or '\'

13:37:29 [jcc]

(U+0022, U+002B, U+002C, U+003B, U+003C, U+003E, or U+005C,

13:37:29 [jcc]

respectively);

13:37:34 [EdS]

jcc: 2.4 of rfc 4514

13:37:50 [fjh2]

ack tlr

13:37:50 [Zakim]

tlr, you wanted to note that 2253 isn't limited to ASCII either

13:38:48 [EdS]

rfc 2253 talks about UTF-8

13:39:02 [EdS]

rfc 4514 deals with Unicode

13:39:05 [klanz2]

q+

13:40:50 [fjh2]

http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4514.txt

13:42:34 [klanz2]

ack kl

13:42:35 [EdS]

tlr: need to be compatible with various XML encodings, Konrad's additions make that work

13:42:38 [fjh2]

tlr: if receiver can process according to RFC then sender has some encoding flexibility

13:44:01 [tlr]

tlr: RFC 4514, section 2.4 gives you two ways to encode things. hex (which you pick if you don't know how to deal with charset) or utf-8 + escaping rules. Receiving party needs to be able to deal with both. Therefore, propose that we just stick to the current text, plus Konrad's proposed change.

13:44:28 [tlr]

q+

13:45:04 [EdS]

jcc: to send email explaining his thoughts on RFC 2253 and 4514 diffs

13:46:03 [EdS]

tlr: string generated must comply with sec 3 of rfc 4514

13:46:52 [tlr]

zakim, mute me

13:46:52 [Zakim]

sorry, tlr, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

13:47:20 [EdS]

klanz2: an rfc 2253 implemenation should be happy with what we have now

13:47:24 [tlr]

we are talking of not even a conformance point.

13:48:32 [EdS]

q+

13:48:37 [fjh2]

q+

13:48:38 [tlr]

q+ to suggest striking that bullet point

13:48:42 [EdS]

q-

13:48:49 [klanz2]

q+

13:50:30 [fjh2]

Consider the string as consisting of Unicode characters.

13:50:32 [EdS]

jcc: most recent red-line is OK with him with Konrad's edit but first bullet (Unicode one) is of concern

13:51:05 [sean]

q+

13:51:16 [fjh2]

ack tlr

13:51:16 [Zakim]

tlr, you wanted to suggest striking that bullet point

13:51:25 [fjh2]

ack fjh

13:51:33 [EdS]

tlr: agree with JCC string "consisting of Unicode characters"

13:51:39 [klanz2]

ack kl

13:51:40 [tlr]

tlr: suggest to strike it

13:51:41 [fjh2]

ack klanz

13:51:48 [EdS]

s/JCC string/JCC re string/

13:52:21 [tlr]

q+

13:54:31 [fjh2]

ack sean

13:55:11 [fjh2]

klanz2: if talking character escaping then clearer that not hex encoding

13:55:25 [EdS]

jcc and konrad agree with tlr

13:55:37 [fjh2]

re removing first bullet

13:55:51 [EdS]

sean: wary of going with 4514 in addition to 2253

13:55:51 [klanz2]

zakim, mute me

13:55:51 [Zakim]

klanz2 should now be muted

13:56:15 [EdS]

back to getting rid of Unicode bullet

13:56:17 [klanz2]

+1 to skip first bullett

13:56:20 [EdS]

agreed to get rid of that bullet

13:56:31 [EdS]

back to sean's comment

13:56:58 [fjh2]

RESOLUTION: Remove first bullet in second bullet list in XML Sig 4.4.4

13:57:00 [EdS]

tlr: grammar in 2253 is broken, 4514 is fixed

13:57:16 [klanz2]

q+

13:57:22 [fjh2]

ack tlr

13:58:11 [EdS]

sean: what of implemenations already out there

13:59:15 [EdS]

EdS: are we worried about legacy implemenations

13:59:40 [EdS]

tlr: are implementations of 2253 going to be broken by 4514

13:59:49 [EdS]

sean: hard to answer that

14:00:05 [EdS]

EdS: if it can be broken, it will ;)

14:00:24 [klanz2]

ack kl

14:00:32 [EdS]

tlr: going with 4514 and let interop flush out problems

14:01:37 [EdS]

klanz2: asks tlr to summarize his comments on the mailing list to record his detailed thinking about 4514

14:02:24 [EdS]

Action: Sean to create test re rfc 2253 vs rfc 4514 implementations

14:02:24 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-58 - Create test re rfc 2253 vs rfc 4514 implementations [on Sean Mullan - due 2007-07-03].

14:02:35 [fjh2]

2253 implementation able to receive

14:03:01 [tlr]

I think if Sean finds a "trouble" test case, that needs to go into the interop testing.

14:03:37 [klanz2]

May I propose to add 15 minutes to the call ?

14:03:43 [tlr]

+1 to adding 15 min

14:03:43 [fjh2]

eds: uniform referencing of RFC 2253 and 4514 in draft? Earlier section?

14:03:58 [sean]

+1 to adding 15 min

14:03:59 [fjh2]

+1 to 15 min

14:05:03 [EdS]

action: thomas to summarize his comments on the mailing list to record his detailed thinking about 4514

14:05:03 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-59 - Summarize his comments on the mailing list to record his detailed thinking about 4514 [on Thomas Roessler - due 2007-07-03].

14:05:55 [klanz2]

ack kl

14:06:19 [EdS]

tlr: all decisions are subject to interop testing results

14:06:44 [EdS]

resolution: wg agrees to change to rfc 4514 from rfc 2253 subject to interop testing

14:07:17 [klanz2]

http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/Drafts/xmldsig-core/#sec-X509Data

14:07:19 [tlr]

http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/Drafts/xmldsig-core/#sec-X509Data

14:07:25 [sean]

q+

14:08:09 [klanz2]

http://www.w3.org/TR/xmldsig-core/#ref-LDAP-DN

14:08:33 [klanz2]

Upadte the Reference Section as well

14:09:05 [EdS]

tlr reviewed wording changes to XML Sig

14:10:52 [EdS]

sean: in section 11, need to update ref to 2253 to 4514

14:11:17 [EdS]

tlr: that was done

14:11:22 [tlr]

http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/Drafts/xmldsig-core/#sec-References

14:12:08 [klanz2]

It's there, there is a limit due to the speed of Light ;-)

14:13:32 [klanz2]

we have two more minutes

14:13:41 [EdS]

everyone to review new version of specification -- make sure you have the latest version! -- and add your comments to the list and be prepared to approve, or debate, XML Sig at next meeting

14:14:34 [klanz2]

q+

14:14:41 [EdS]

fjh: reversibility warning can be in best practices,

14:15:02 [fjh2]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Jun/0000.html

14:15:40 [EdS]

to make sure you have latest draft, go to top and look for "Editor's Draft $Date: 2007/06/26 14:00:21 $" or later time stamp

14:15:57 [tlr]

sorry, no

14:15:58 [tlr]

XML-Signature Syntax and Processing Editor's Draft $Date: 2007/06/26 14:14:48 $

14:16:03 [tlr]

,-)

14:16:12 [EdS]

jcc: mime types not an open issue

14:17:33 [klanz2]

do you have a link to the errata document

14:18:25 [EdS]

action: juan carlos to investigate mime types vs uri for next meeting -due 2007-07-10

14:18:25 [trackbot-ng]

Sorry, couldn't find user - juan

14:19:13 [klanz2]

ack kl

14:19:44 [tlr]

+1 to fjh's proposal

14:20:05 [tlr]

ACTION: cruellas to investigate mime types vs uri for next meeting -due 2007-07-10

14:20:05 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-60 - Investigate mime types vs uri for next meeting -due 2007-07-10 [on Juan Carlos Cruellas - due 2007-07-03].

14:20:14 [fjh2]

ack sean

14:21:21 [klanz2]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Jun/0078.html

14:21:22 [EdS]

fjh: prefer to leave stuff on agenda to next time if we do not get it to it this time

14:22:41 [EdS]

fjh: will need to review canonicalization revision from Konrad

14:22:45 [klanz2]

ack kl

14:22:52 [Zakim]

-PHB

14:23:45 [EdS]

klanz2: there are some issues; more feedback potentially when interop starts, c14n wants to be informed of xmlsec wg status

14:25:09 [tlr]

juan-carlos, I think the Type vs MIMEType issue isn't one.

14:26:14 [EdS]

fjh: will we need more time on these calls? as we move to interop, may not, or maybe we will

14:26:24 [klanz2]

7a) changes to appendix, considered changes by JCC, did not consider changes by sean as I sticked as close as possible to RFC 3986 ...

14:26:37 [EdS]

next call on July 10

14:26:46 [Zakim]

-SeanMullen

14:26:48 [Zakim]

-JuanCarlos

14:26:50 [Zakim]

-RobMiller

14:26:51 [klanz2]

... maybe rewording may enhance readability

14:27:11 [tlr]

zakim, list participants

14:27:11 [Zakim]

As of this point the attendees have been Frederick_Hirsch, EdS, Thomas, JuanCarlos, SeanMullen, RobMiller, klanz2, deastl, PHB

14:27:15 [tlr]

rrsagent, make this record public

14:27:20 [tlr]

rrsagent, draft minutes

14:27:20 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/26-xmlsec-minutes.html tlr

14:27:30 [klanz2]

... unsure about the implications and impacts wehn rewording appendix moving away from rfc 3986

14:28:10 [fjh2]

Zakim, list participants

14:28:10 [Zakim]

As of this point the attendees have been Frederick_Hirsch, EdS, Thomas, JuanCarlos, SeanMullen, RobMiller, klanz2, deastl, PHB

14:28:15 [tlr]

rrsagent, please draft minute

14:28:15 [RRSAgent]

I'm logging. I don't understand 'please draft minute', tlr. Try /msg RRSAgent help

14:28:16 [klanz2]

... as original mission in xml core was to stick as close as posssible to the rfc 3986 ...

14:28:46 [klanz2]

.. discussion useful .

14:29:18 [klanz2]

Bye Everyone

14:29:21 [tlr]

rrsagent, please draft minutes

14:29:21 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/26-xmlsec-minutes.html tlr

14:29:31 [tlr]

rrsagent, excuse us

14:29:31 [RRSAgent]

I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/26-xmlsec-actions.rdf :

14:29:31 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: tlr to set up test case infrastructure [1]

14:29:31 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/26-xmlsec-irc#T13-25-32

14:29:31 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: thomas to give Juan Carlos, Sean, Konrad access to interop web space in CVS [2]

14:29:31 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/26-xmlsec-irc#T13-25-52

14:29:31 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: jcc to get us started on test cases [3]

14:29:31 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/26-xmlsec-irc#T13-27-58

14:29:31 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: cruellas to get us started on test cases [4]

14:29:31 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/26-xmlsec-irc#T13-28-21

14:29:31 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: juan carlos to get us started on test cases [5]

14:29:31 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/26-xmlsec-irc#T13-28-25

14:29:31 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Sean to create test re rfc 2253 vs rfc 4514 implementations [6]

14:29:31 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/26-xmlsec-irc#T14-02-24

14:29:31 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: thomas to summarize his comments on the mailing list to record his detailed thinking about 4514 [7]

14:29:31 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/26-xmlsec-irc#T14-05-03

14:29:31 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: juan carlos to investigate mime types vs uri for next meeting -due 2007-07-10 [8]

14:29:31 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/26-xmlsec-irc#T14-18-25

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ACTION: cruellas to investigate mime types vs uri for next meeting -due 2007-07-10 [9]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/26-xmlsec-irc#T14-20-05

14:29:46 [klanz2]

zakim, who is on the phone ?

14:29:46 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Frederick_Hirsch, EdS, Thomas, klanz2 (muted), deastl