19:50:26 RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag 19:50:26 logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-wai-wcag-irc 19:50:36 RRSAgent, do not start a new log 19:50:44 RRSAgent, make log world 19:50:51 zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG 19:50:51 ok, Ben_; I see WAI_WCAG()3:00PM scheduled to start 50 minutes ago 19:50:56 Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon 19:51:07 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007AprJun/0194.html 19:51:14 Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loretta_Guarino_Reid 19:51:21 ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly 19:51:57 Regrets: Cynthia_Shelly 19:52:23 agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates 19:52:31 agenda+ New issue tracking system 19:52:38 agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for June 21, 2007 19:52:45 agenda+ Alternate Versions Editorial Note 19:57:08 bengt_ has joined #wai-wcag 19:58:38 WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started 19:58:45 +Bruce_Bailey 19:59:10 +??P2 19:59:14 +Cooper 19:59:20 zakim, ??P2 is Ben_Caldwell 19:59:20 +Ben_Caldwell; got it 19:59:28 Loretta has joined #wai-wcag 20:00:00 +??P6 20:00:05 zakim, ??P6 is Roberto_Scano 20:00:05 +Roberto_Scano; got it 20:00:27 zakim, I am Roberto_Scano 20:00:27 ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano 20:00:42 Sofia has joined #wai-wcag 20:00:50 +Andrew_LaHart 20:00:57 -Ben_Caldwell 20:01:15 +Sofia_Celic 20:01:30 +??P9 20:01:43 zakim, ??P9 is Ben_Caldwell 20:01:43 +Ben_Caldwell; got it 20:01:51 + +7.971.aaaa 20:01:56 +Christophe_Strobbe 20:01:59 +Alex_Li 20:02:14 zakim, Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden 20:02:14 +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it 20:02:16 +Katie_Haritos-Shea 20:02:16 Gregg has joined #wai-wcag 20:02:17 zakim, +1.7.971 is Sean_Hayes 20:02:17 sorry, MichaelC, I do not recognize a party named '+1.7.971' 20:02:25 zakim, +7.971 is Sean_Hayes 20:02:25 +Sean_Hayes; got it 20:03:00 +[IBM] 20:03:45 zakim, IBM is Andi_Snow-Weaver 20:03:45 +Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it 20:04:45 rellero_ has joined #wai-wcag 20:05:29 +[IPcaller] 20:05:38 +Loretta_Guarino_Reid 20:05:49 Zakim, [IPcaller is Roberto_Ellero 20:05:49 +Roberto_Ellero; got it 20:05:54 +??P24 20:06:04 zakim, ??P24 is Bengt_Farre 20:06:04 +Bengt_Farre; got it 20:07:17 Andi has joined #wai-wcag 20:07:29 zakim, who is on the phone? 20:07:29 On the phone I see Bruce_Bailey, Cooper, Roberto_Scano, Andrew_LaHart, Sofia_Celic, Ben_Caldwell, Sean_Hayes, Christophe_Strobbe, Alex_Li, Katie_Haritos-Shea (muted), 20:07:32 ... Andi_Snow-Weaver, Roberto_Ellero, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Bengt_Farre 20:07:33 Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden 20:10:29 http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/ 20:10:38 http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/issuereports/ 20:12:03 -Bruce_Bailey 20:12:17 ack b 20:12:27 +Bruce_Bailey 20:17:11 zakim, take up agendum 1 20:17:11 agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from Ben_] 20:17:14 scribe: Christophe 20:17:51 If any questions or problems with the new issue tracking system: send mail to Gregg and Ben. 20:18:37 zakim, next agendum 20:18:37 agendum 2. "New issue tracking system" taken up [from Ben_] 20:18:42 zakim, next agendum 20:18:42 agendum 2 was just opened, Christophe 20:18:59 q+ 20:19:04 zakim, take up agendum 3 20:19:04 agendum 3. "Miscellaneous Proposals for June 21, 2007" taken up [from Ben_] 20:19:54 ack g 20:19:54 Survey results at http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20070621misc/results 20:20:09 Topic: Issue 1958: Is not "naming" a form control a failure? 20:20:54 ack s 20:21:03 q+ 20:21:55 ack c 20:22:11 UA and AT support notes of H44: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20070521/Overview.html#H44 20:23:07 +Tim_Boland 20:23:11 +David_MacDonald 20:23:40 Tim has joined #wai-wcag 20:24:10 David has joined #wai-wcag 20:26:29 q+ 20:26:35 ack b 20:28:22 ack a 20:28:35 Q+ 20:28:40 ACK B 20:28:56 ack g 20:33:40 Action: DMD record @@ action about "name" linking in spec ("name" attribute vs other meaning) in the issue 20:34:17 Issue sent back. 20:34:23 Topic: Issue 1977: use of null alt 20:38:26 -Bruce_Bailey 20:38:56 Drew has joined #wai-wcag 20:40:03 +Bruce_Bailey 20:46:06 Action: David and Sofia to discuss addition to response re null alt 20:46:19 Resolution: accepted as amended with Michael's comment 20:46:50 Topic: Issue 1993: F42: state that items are not tab-navigable 20:53:01 Resolution: accepted as amended ("Failure of SC 1.3.1 and 2.4.1 due to using scripting events to emulate links") 20:53:20 Topic: Issue 1443: F42: Suggestions for making website easier to understand 20:54:40 Sent back. 20:54:52 Topic: Issue 1978: clarify differences between text, images of text and visually rendered text 20:55:46 Drew has joined #wai-wcag 20:55:53 ack a 20:57:52 q+ 20:59:09 ack l 21:03:59 Resolution: accepted as amended with Gregg's and Michael's suggestions (and remove parentheses from SC 1.4.3 and SC 1.4.5) 21:04:21 Topic: Issue 1971: add our titling requirement as a technique for creating accessible titles 21:11:43 Resolution: accepted as amended. 21:11:50 -Katie_Haritos-Shea 21:12:33 q+ 21:12:33 zakim, next agendume 21:12:34 I don't understand 'next agendume', Christophe 21:12:37 zakim, next agendum 21:12:37 I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Christophe 21:12:47 ack b 21:12:57 zakim, next agendum 21:12:57 I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Christophe 21:13:05 ack g 21:13:10 zakim, next agendum 21:13:10 agendum 2. "New issue tracking system" taken up [from Ben_] 21:13:30 zakim, take up agendum 4 21:13:30 agendum 4. "Alternate Versions Editorial Note" taken up [from Ben_] 21:14:21 Conformance Requirements: http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#conformance-reqs 21:14:45 Alternate Versions Conformance Requirement: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2007/05/alternate-versions.html 21:17:02 ack s 21:18:16 q+ 21:18:23 ack a 21:18:43 q+ 21:19:21 q+ 21:20:48 ack d 21:21:17 q+ 21:21:57 -Bruce_Bailey 21:22:53 +Bruce_Bailey 21:23:15 q+ 21:24:10 ack l 21:24:12 -Bruce_Bailey 21:25:06 +Bruce_Bailey 21:25:14 ack g 21:27:42 ack a 21:28:18 q+ 21:28:45 ack g 21:30:50 q+ 21:34:39 -Roberto_Ellero 21:36:34 ack l 21:37:10 -Andrew_LaHart 21:37:39 q+ 21:39:55 -Roberto_Scano 21:44:40 ack a 21:45:12 q+ 21:47:20 q+ 21:47:56 ack b 21:48:30 q+ 21:50:10 ack l 21:50:17 q+ 21:50:35 ack d 21:51:04 -Bruce_Bailey 21:51:20 -Tim_Boland 21:52:36 ack a 21:52:51 +Bruce_Bailey 21:53:15 ack g 21:53:51 zakim, take up agendum 3 21:53:51 agendum 3. "Miscellaneous Proposals for June 21, 2007" taken up [from Ben_] 21:55:18 Resolution: accept 666 and 1975 as proposed 21:56:01 Resolution: Issue 1132: Provide a progressive complexity for both site and page content...: accepted as proposed. 21:57:20 Resolution: Issue 2000: Adding "at least" to second sentances of 1.4.3 & 1.4.5 :accepted as amended (add "at least", drop "can") 21:58:21 Resolution: Issue 1999: Definition of Levels with respect to impact on people with disabilities: accepted as amended (remove quotation mark at beginning of sentence) 21:59:31 -Andi_Snow-Weaver 22:00:17 Resolution: Issue 1990: LC-1437 follow up - font scaling: accepted as amended. 22:00:39 -Sofia_Celic 22:00:44 -Bengt_Farre 22:00:49 -Sean_Hayes 22:00:49 bengt has left #wai-wcag 22:01:00 rscano has left #wai-wcag 22:01:01 -Bruce_Bailey 22:01:02 -Ben_Caldwell 22:01:02 -Cooper 22:01:03 -David_MacDonald 22:01:14 Issue 1992: Trying to help readability: next week. 22:01:29 -Christophe_Strobbe 22:02:13 -Alex_Li 22:02:21 -Loretta_Guarino_Reid 22:02:22 WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended 22:02:24 Attendees were Bruce_Bailey, Cooper, Roberto_Scano, Andrew_LaHart, Sofia_Celic, +7.971.aaaa, Christophe_Strobbe, Alex_Li, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Sean_Hayes, 22:02:26 ... Andi_Snow-Weaver, [IPcaller], Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Roberto_Ellero, Bengt_Farre, Tim_Boland, David_MacDonald 22:23:06 zakim, bye 22:23:06 Zakim has left #wai-wcag 22:23:13 RRSAgent, pointer? 22:23:13 See http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-wai-wcag-irc#T22-23-13 22:23:21 RRSAgent, bye 22:23:21 I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-wai-wcag-actions.rdf : 22:23:21 ACTION: DMD record @@ action about "name" linking in spec ("name" attribute vs other meaning) in the issue [1] 22:23:21 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-wai-wcag-irc#T20-33-40 22:23:21 ACTION: David and Sofia to discuss addition to response re null alt [2] 22:23:21 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-wai-wcag-irc#T20-46-06