14:25:25 RRSAgent has joined #dawg 14:25:25 logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/06/19-dawg-irc 14:25:39 Zakim has joined #dawg 14:25:49 zakim, this will be DAWG 14:25:49 ok, LeeF; I see SW_DAWG()10:30AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes 14:26:30 LeeF has changed the topic to: RDF Data Access - 19 Jun Agenda - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0084.html 14:26:35 Chair: LeeF 14:26:40 Regrets: Chimezie 14:26:52 agenda + action items 14:27:14 agenda + test progress 14:27:16 SW_DAWG()10:30AM has now started 14:27:18 agenda + test harness? 14:27:22 +??P0 14:27:24 zakim, ??P0 is me 14:27:24 +AndyS; got it 14:29:36 +??P1 14:29:46 zakim, ??P1 is me 14:29:46 +jeen; got it 14:31:10 +[IBMCambridge] 14:32:23 No 14:32:41 LeeF has left #dawg 14:32:43 Ping reply from LeeF: 0.18 second(s) 14:32:45 seems fine 14:34:05 +PatH 14:34:24 Souri has joined #dawg 14:34:45 LeeF has joined #dawg 14:34:46 patH has joined #dawg 14:34:54 can you see this? 14:34:56 yes 14:35:06 zakim,, IBMCambridge is me 14:35:06 I don't understand ', IBMCambridge is me', LeeF 14:35:12 zakim, who's on the phone? 14:35:12 On the phone I see AndyS, jeen, [IBMCambridge], PatH 14:35:19 +Souri_Das 14:35:30 zakim, IBMCambridge is me 14:35:30 +LeeF; got it 14:35:44 agenda? 14:35:56 agenda + convene 14:36:04 agenda + published docs 14:36:07 agenda + implementation report 14:36:50 zakim, choose a scribe 14:36:50 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose jeen 14:37:03 Scribe: jeen 14:37:29 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/att-0068/2007-06-05-dawg-minutes.html minutes from 5 June 14:38:07 approved 14:38:10 +EricP 14:38:38 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/att-0082/2007-06-12-dawg-minutes.html minutes from 12 June 14:38:40 Andy, we have started, but not to that point yet unfortunately. It is high on our agenda. So, we'll get back to you soon ... 14:39:04 approved 14:39:14 topic: action items 14:39:16 I think all discussion of zippers should be avoided. 14:39:30 ACTION: ericP, jeen, or LeeF to update http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/README with info on possible results format and on changes to manifest and test vocabularies [DONE] 14:40:23 ACTION: LeeF to mark http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/boolean-effective-value/manifest.ttl approved, and add rdfs:comments [DONE] 14:40:27 -EricP 14:40:29 ACTION: LeeF to mark optional-filter tests approved [DONE] 14:40:36 ACTION: LeeF to move OpenWorld tests to data-r2, add comments, mark as approved, add to super manifest [DONE] 14:41:03 ACTION: ericP to poke IETF folks about registering SPARQL media types (esp. application/sparql-query) [CONTINUES] 14:41:10 ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests to summarize coverage [CONTINUES] 14:41:18 ACTION: ericP & chimezie to see if all the identified algebraic forms fit into the XPath-based facet approach [CONTINUES] 14:41:26 ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing [CONTINUES] 14:41:36 ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [CONTINUES] 14:41:37 Zakim, please dial ericP-office 14:41:37 ok, ericP; the call is being made 14:41:39 +EricP 14:41:46 ACTION: ericP to get in touch with SteveH re: setting up an environment to generate an Overview page for tests in data-r2 a la http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ [CONTINUES] 14:42:12 -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/r2 not yet constructed new overview page 14:42:46 topic: published docs 14:44:19 topic: implementation report 14:45:42 LeeF: even if we don't have a fully covering test set I want to see an overview 14:47:03 LeeF: wonders if a useful service would be something that takes a sparql endpoint and fires the test suite against it. 14:49:06 patH: I think this is a really great idea 14:50:03 LeeF: good to know there's interest, let me know if you're interested in workin on this 14:51:00 -> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-crockford-jsonorg-json-05.txt normative reference from SPARQL JSON results 14:51:12 -> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-json-res/ SPARQL results in JSON 14:52:01 14:52:01 """ 14:52:01 Encoding considerations: 14:52:01 The encoding considerations of the SPARQL Query Results JSON Format is identical to those of the "application/json" as specified in [JSON-IETF-DRAFT] 14:52:01 """ 14:52:48 topic: tests 14:53:20 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0072.html Andy's algebra tests 14:53:30 -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/algebra/ algebra tests 14:57:01 ExprEquals 14:59:30 -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/algebra/filter-placement-2.rq filter placement 2 15:01:00 PROPOSED: Approve the 12 tests in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/algebra/manifest.ttl 15:01:10 andys seconds 15:01:23 resolved 15:01:39 ACTION: LeeF mark algebra tests as approved and add rdfs:comments 15:02:12 -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/open-world/data-2.ttl open world data file 15:02:31 -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/open-world/open-eq-07.rq open world query 15:03:44 jeen: Sesame fails parsing the data file because of "xyz"^^xsd:integer 15:03:46 data: "xyz"^^xsd:integer 15:06:14 Jeen, what about "003"^^xsd:integer? Does Sesame store "3"? 15:06:17 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006JulSep/0121.html 15:06:31 does dawg:malformedLiteral work for everyone? 15:06:50 AndyS, that depends on parser settings. IIRC it stores the canonical value by default 15:07:35 tests with objects like "xyz"^^xsd:integer are a dawg:illformedLiteral . 15:09:41 LeeF: let's leave it alone for now, perhaps (?) annotate and just see what feedback we get 15:11:46 ACTION: jeen to annotate http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/open-world/manifest.ttl to mark the tests that use data-2.ttl as requiring support for illformed literals 15:11:57 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/OpenWorld/manifest.ttl 15:12:03 (attn jeen) 15:12:04 Following usual conventions should be dawg:IllformedLiteral since its a class. Which looks awful in this font. 15:12:13 look for mf:requires 15:12:35 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0086.html on language tag case sensitivity 15:12:38 ok thx eric 15:13:02 i'm not convinces that it should be dawg:IllformedLiteral vs. mf:IllformedLiteral 15:13:10 -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/open-world/manifest-lang-case-sensitivity.ttl 15:16:07 Jeen: passes 3 out of 4 (fails the first one) 15:17:31 PROPOSED: to approve http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/open-world/*insensitive* 15:18:04 seconded by various people 15:18:06 approved 15:18:42 ACTION: LeeF remove case-sensitive tests and mark other lang tag case tests as approved 15:19:35 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/ExprEquals/manifest.n3 15:22:16 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/ExprEquals/query-eq-4.rq 15:25:11 PROPOSED: Approve the 12 tests in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/ExprEquals/manifest.n3 15:25:20 ericp seconds 15:25:45 resolved, jeen abstaining 15:25:58 ACTION: LeeF to move ExprEquals tests to new area, mark as approved 15:29:24 ACTION: AndyS to take a look at GRAPH and FROM NAMED tests 15:30:30 ACTION: jeen to look at sorting / ORDER BY tests to move them to data-r2 15:31:11 adjourned. 15:31:18 -PatH 15:31:20 -LeeF 15:31:23 -Souri_Das 15:31:25 -EricP 15:31:29 thanks for scribing, jeen 15:31:31 -jeen 15:31:33 oops too alte 15:31:34 late 15:31:38 rrsagent, please draft minutes 15:31:38 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/19-dawg-minutes.html LeeF 15:31:42 rrsagent, make logs world-access 15:31:46 -AndyS 15:31:47 SW_DAWG()10:30AM has ended 15:31:49 Attendees were AndyS, jeen, PatH, Souri_Das, LeeF, EricP 15:33:59 AndyS has left #dawg