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14:41:35 <mhausenblas> zakim, this will be SW_SWD(RDFa)
14:41:35 <Zakim> ok, mhausenblas; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 19 minutes
14:44:09 <mhausenblas> Meeting: W3C RDF-in-XHTML TF - Telecon 2007-06-14, 15:00 UTC
14:47:52 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Jun/0025.html
14:49:32 <mhausenblas> Present: Mark_Birbeck, Steven_Pemberton, Keith_Alexander, Simone_Onofri, Michael_Hausenblas
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14:49:53 <Steven> I am only present remotely (at a FtF)
14:50:23 <mhausenblas> Steven, ack ;)
14:50:36 <mhausenblas> present+ Shane_McCarron
14:50:48 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
14:50:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
14:51:04 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, make logs public
14:51:43 <ShaneM>  we dont start for another 8 minutes right?
14:52:02 <mhausenblas> right.
14:56:20 <ShaneM>  I have a house full o children this morning; might not be wise
14:59:49 <markbirbeck> I am remotely attending the XForms FtF, but am breaking of to attend the call.
15:00:14 <markbirbeck> Will be a couple of minutes late though. (Need a drink. :))
15:00:17 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started
15:00:24 <Zakim> +ShaneM
15:00:24 <mhausenblas> ScribeNick: mhausenblas
15:00:47 <Zakim> + +043316876aaaa
15:00:49 <Zakim> -ShaneM
15:00:51 <Zakim> +ShaneM
15:01:17 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aaaa is me
15:01:18 <Zakim> +mhausenblas; got it
15:01:34 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:01:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
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15:03:43 <Zakim> +??P5
15:03:49 <Simone> Zakim, ??P5 is me
15:03:49 <Zakim> +Simone; got it
15:04:03 <Zakim> +Elias_Torres
15:04:08 <EliasT> Zakim, Elias_Torres is me
15:04:08 <Zakim> +EliasT; got it
15:04:18 <mhausenblas> present+ Elias_Torres
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15:04:35 <benadida> having trouble dialing in.
15:04:56 <Zakim> +Ben_Adida
15:05:03 <mhausenblas> present+ Ben_Adida
15:05:22 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:05:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
15:05:39 <benadida> zakim, who is on the call?
15:05:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see ShaneM, mhausenblas, Simone, EliasT, Ben_Adida
15:06:26 <mhausenblas> Chair: Ben
15:07:22 <mhausenblas> Topic: 1. Action Item Review
15:07:34 <mhausenblas> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007May/0073 meeting record: 2007-05-31 RDFa telecon
15:07:45 <mhausenblas> [NEW] ACTION: Ben send email to SWD WG list summarizing RDFa document status [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action02]
15:07:49 <mhausenblas> - continues
15:07:57 <mhausenblas> -- continues
15:08:06 <mhausenblas> [NEW] ACTION: Ben to review tracker issues and add @resource, @href, @src, profile if not there already [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action16]
15:08:13 <mhausenblas> -- done
15:08:27 <mhausenblas> [PENDING] ACTION: Ben start a list of RDF/XML features that are not supported by RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action01]
15:08:45 <Zakim> +Mark_Birbeck
15:08:45 <mhausenblas> -- continues
15:09:07 <mhausenblas> [PENDING] ACTION: Ben to ask W3C about XML-DTD validation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action19]
15:09:17 <mhausenblas> -- done
15:09:24 <mhausenblas> [PENDING] ACTION: Ben to flesh out the schedule and present for everyone's approval next week. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]
15:09:49 <mhausenblas> -- done
15:10:07 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa#RDFa_schedule
15:10:27 <mhausenblas> [PENDING] ACTION: Ben to look into Science Commons use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04]
15:10:32 <mhausenblas> -- continues
15:10:45 <mhausenblas> [PENDING] ACTION: Ben to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0001.html to see if issue has been resolved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]
15:10:53 <mhausenblas> -- done
15:11:00 <mhausenblas> [PENDING] ACTION: Elias to send email to list with use case from IBM [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action10]
15:11:11 <mhausenblas> -- continues
15:11:22 <mhausenblas> [PENDING] ACTION: Mark produce more examples of applicability of n-ary relations from IPTC documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/23-htmltf-minutes.html#action08]
15:11:28 <mhausenblas> -- continues
15:11:36 <mhausenblas> [PENDING] ACTION: Mark to write up a consistent story on the @SRC attribute [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]
15:12:12 <EliasT> Zakim, mute me
15:12:12 <Zakim> EliasT should now be muted
15:12:23 <mhausenblas> -- continues
15:12:27 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa/ProposedStructure
15:13:34 <mhausenblas> Mark: Two issues 'Not agreed, but on the table'
15:15:21 <ShaneM>  I note that even HTML5 is no longer imputing semantics on class
15:15:46 <mhausenblas> ... will write up proposal for @src
15:21:10 <EliasT> Zakim, unmute me
15:21:10 <Zakim> EliasT should no longer be muted
15:21:22 <Simone> Zakim, mute me
15:21:22 <Zakim> Simone should now be muted
15:22:16 <mhausenblas> [PENDING] ACTION: MarkB to work rdf:label back into RDFa syntax when using @content [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-minutes.html#action25]
15:22:20 <mhausenblas> -- continues
15:23:48 <mhausenblas> [PENDING] ACTION: MichaelH to do partitioning of TCs, freeze the XHTML1.1+RDFa, and invite implementors to comment. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action13]
15:24:04 <mhausenblas> -- continues
15:24:35 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:24:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
15:25:05 <mhausenblas> -> http://simile.mit.edu/wiki/Exhibit Exhibit
15:25:28 <mhausenblas> [PENDING] ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]
15:25:39 <Steven> --continues
15:26:06 <mhausenblas> [PENDING] ACTION: Wing add a property to the test case schema for tracking origin and approval of an individual test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
15:26:13 <mhausenblas> -- continues
15:26:24 <mhausenblas> Topic:  2. Issues Review
15:26:52 <mhausenblas> Ben: My plan ws to go over the issues
15:26:58 <mhausenblas> s/ws/was
15:27:17 <mhausenblas> ... but without ralph and Steven on the call hard to do
15:27:29 <Steven> (sorry)
15:27:33 <mhausenblas> s/ralph/Ralph
15:27:55 <mhausenblas> ... we do it via mail
15:28:09 <mhausenblas> Ben: One issue I'd like to tackle
15:28:16 <mhausenblas> ... GRDDL profile
15:28:53 <benadida> my thoughts: if you control the head of the doc, and you want to be nice, put a GRDDL profile for RDFa, but if you're a consumer, don't rely on it always being there, because the DTD is already there to point you back to the RDFa.
15:29:26 <mhausenblas> Ben: Any comments?
15:29:43 <benadida> this is ISSUE-28, btw
15:30:59 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/28 ISSUE-28
15:32:03 <mhausenblas> Mark: Should ensure that we are able to handle other formats
15:32:21 <mhausenblas> ... that might also around in the page
15:34:30 <mhausenblas> http://ns.inria.fr/grddl/rdfa/
15:35:57 <mhausenblas> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Jun/0010.html
15:37:56 <ShaneM>  suggestion: proile URI should be a profile URI space.... e.g. w3.org/grddl/rdfa/*
15:38:03 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Ben to figure out the RDFa-GRDDL-profile URI (at w3.org)
15:40:57 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Ben to take care of issues 2, 5, 25,28, 29 via list
15:41:03 <benadida> Steven: any update on RDFa syntax doc?
15:41:23 <mhausenblas> Topic: 3. Schedule and Document Status
15:41:24 <Steven> Not publicly
15:41:39 <Steven> I need to talk to you about integrating it into the XHTML pubs system
15:41:49 <Steven> But maybe Shane can talk about that since he's on the call
15:42:05 <Steven> (how committed are you to using XMLSpec?)
15:44:15 <mhausenblas> Ben: I'm happy to put some time into it
15:46:29 <mhausenblas> Mark: I am also willing to heavily contribute
15:48:41 <mhausenblas> Shane: Stumbled over it when reading the -> http://www.w3.org/2006/11/XHTML2-WG-charter.html XHTML 2 charter
15:51:26 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:51:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
15:52:24 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa#RDFa_schedule  Schedule 
15:54:16 <ShaneM>  Note that I am on holiday from 14 -> 22 July, but we can have my bits done long before then.
15:54:29 <mhausenblas> Ben: Let's beat the schedule
15:56:09 <ShaneM>  Steven is not aware of any upcoming publication moratoria
15:56:31 <mhausenblas> Michael: I'm very likely not available round August (3rd baby approaching :)
15:58:07 <mhausenblas> Mark: A bit worried about upcoming issues during this period
15:58:33 <mhausenblas> ... but when we set a dealine, this should be o.k.
16:00:24 <mhausenblas> Ben: We need to be able to point people to answers
16:00:49 <mhausenblas> ... a good documentation is viable
16:01:05 <mhausenblas> ... lot of issue then fade away
16:01:28 <mhausenblas> ... SWD tracker can help us here
16:03:21 <mhausenblas> Ben: Should resolve all objections till end of June
16:05:12 <mhausenblas> Topic: 4. The @RESOURCE and @HREF situation
16:05:26 <mhausenblas> adjourned
16:05:36 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:05:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:05:39 <EliasT> +1 again
16:05:52 <Zakim> -ShaneM
16:06:26 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Ben to add @RESOURCE and @HREF to his task list
16:06:39 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:06:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:06:47 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, make logs public
16:07:57 <Zakim> -Mark_Birbeck
16:07:58 <Zakim> -EliasT
16:07:59 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
16:07:59 <Zakim> -Ben_Adida
16:08:05 <Zakim> -Simone
16:08:07 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended
16:08:09 <Zakim> Attendees were ShaneM, +043316876aaaa, mhausenblas, Simone, EliasT, Ben_Adida, Mark_Birbeck
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16:08:19 <Steven> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:08:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-rdfa-minutes.html Steven
16:08:31 <Steven> (you must make minutes after Zakim says it is over)
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