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13:44:53 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DBWG
13:44:53 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WS_DBWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 16 minutes
13:44:54 <trackbot> Meeting: Databinding WG Teleconference
13:44:54 <trackbot> Date: 12 June 2007
13:45:01 <pauld> scribe: pauld
13:50:30 <pauld> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2007Jun/0001.html
13:50:34 <pauld> chair: pauld
13:50:39 <pauld> rrsagent, where am i?
13:50:39 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-databinding-irc#T13-50-39
13:50:57 <pauld> rrsagent, generate minutes
13:50:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-databinding-minutes.html pauld
13:51:35 <pauld> rrsagent, make logs public
13:52:35 <pauld> zakim, code?
13:52:35 <Zakim> the conference code is 3294 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), pauld
13:56:42 <pauld> Topic: Administrivia
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13:58:29 <Zakim> + +0791888aaaa
13:58:44 <pauld> zakim, aaaa is really me
13:58:44 <Zakim> +pauld; got it
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13:59:50 <Zakim> +??P10
14:00:00 <pauld> zakim, ??10
14:00:00 <Zakim> I don't understand '??10', pauld
14:00:15 <pauld> zakim, ??P10 is gcowe
14:00:15 <Zakim> +gcowe; got it
14:01:32 <Zakim> +Yves
14:02:43 <pauld> minutes from 29th approved
14:05:48 <pauld> gcowe: put a new version of Axis2 run, working with a partner on a Websphere 6 report
14:08:22 <pauld> F2F planning, a meeting soon would be good to make progress
14:10:27 <pauld> 1-3rd August, in Edinburgh
14:11:05 <pauld> Topic: Patterns at Risk
14:11:50 <pauld> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding-comments/2007Apr/0000.html
14:13:05 <pauld> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/venn/venn.html
14:13:38 <pauld> yves: we could qualify this pattern with warnings 
14:14:05 <pauld> yves: xs:date must be used in a timezone qualified way
14:14:14 <pauld> pauld: can we express that in a pattern
14:15:16 <pauld> pauld: ah, this is a runtime issue, so no
14:16:10 <pauld> pauld: seems like a basic advanced pattern
14:19:26 <pauld> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/report/basic.html
14:25:07 <pauld> pauld: looks at basic report
14:25:31 <Yves> decimal/double also has issue (with roundings and big numbers as well)
14:27:19 <pauld> pauld: castor is the only double, but yes Decimal seems advanced
14:29:06 <pauld> attribute looks problematic with SOAP4R, reference
14:29:12 <pauld> .. in particular
14:31:11 <pauld> pauld: Boolean is failed by ADB
14:31:19 <pauld> gcowe: WSO2 may have fixed that
14:32:14 <pauld> pauld: base64binary attribute looks advanced
14:33:34 <pauld> pauld: ENTITIESElement and attribute looks problematic
14:34:50 <pauld> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/report/report_mono_cs_1.1.13.8_osx.html#FloatElement02
14:34:56 <pauld> looks like a rounding error
14:36:14 <pauld> pauld: loss of precison seems ok to me
14:36:42 <Yves> 267.43233E12 != 1.267432E+15
14:36:59 <Yves> 0.1278 = 12.78e-2
14:38:42 <pauld> yves: you can use double for a better experience
14:38:50 <pauld> pauld: yeah, seems advanced on that basis
14:39:43 <pauld> pauld: GMonth, GYear, etc are all broken in ZSI
14:39:50 <pauld> yves: same issue as xs:date
14:40:35 <pauld> ID/IDREF problems with our tests, but DTDs not used in SOAP
14:40:44 <pauld> yves: seem advanced
14:41:27 <pauld> pauld: Integer seems Advanced
14:42:33 <pauld> pauld: nice contentious pattern xs:nillable and xsi:nil is advanced!
14:43:19 <pauld> pauld: finite lists seem problematic
14:43:28 <pauld> gcowe: we use those!
14:45:39 <pauld> pauld: SequenceElementList seems problematic!
14:45:55 <Yves> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/report/report_axis_java_1.4.html#SequenceMaxOccursUnbounded01
14:46:12 <Yves> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/report/report_php5_php_5.2.0.html#SequenceMaxOccursUnbounded01
14:46:27 <Yves> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/report/report_soap4r_ruby_20051204.html#SequenceMaxOccursUnbounded01
14:47:17 <pauld> pauld: cardinality on a sequence is problematic
14:47:44 <pauld> yves: might be nice to have a table of patterns which we moved to advanced following testing
14:48:17 <pauld> ACTION: pdowney to create a table of patterns moved to advanced following testing in Basic Patterns
14:48:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-122 - Create a table of patterns moved to advanced following testing in Basic Patterns [on Paul Downey - due 2007-06-19].
14:48:55 <pauld> pauld: type substitution looks problematic
14:51:39 <pauld> ACTION: gcowe to reply to Pete Cordell's comments
14:51:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-123 - Reply to Pete Cordell\'s comments [on George Cowe - due 2007-06-19].
14:52:44 <pauld> gcowe: regrets for next call
14:53:19 <Zakim> -pauld
14:53:21 <Zakim> -gcowe
14:53:22 <Zakim> WS_DBWG()10:00AM has ended
14:53:23 <Zakim> Attendees were +0791888aaaa, pauld, gcowe, Yves
14:54:16 <gcowe> exit
14:54:56 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft mintes', Yves.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:54:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-databinding-minutes.html Yves
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16:49:11 <pauldowney> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:49:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-databinding-minutes.html pauldowney
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