14:28:23 RRSAgent has joined #dawg 14:28:23 logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-dawg-irc 14:28:27 zakim, this will be DAWG 14:28:27 ok, LeeF; I see SW_DAWG()10:30AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes 14:28:34 Meeting: RDF Data Access Weekly 14:28:41 Chair: LeeF 14:29:00 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0062.html 14:29:08 Regrets: SimonR 14:29:14 SW_DAWG()10:30AM has now started 14:29:15 hmm, any lingering regrets? 14:29:21 +??P24 14:29:22 zakim, ??P24 is me 14:29:22 +AndyS; got it 14:29:25 agenda + convene 14:29:27 agenda + action items 14:29:32 agenda + CR publication status 14:29:39 agenda + XML and JSON Results Format publication status 14:29:44 agenda + Implementation report 14:29:49 agenda + tests 14:30:10 ericP will be a couple of minutes late 14:30:55 +[IBMCambridge] 14:30:57 I can scribe 14:31:05 zakim, IBMCambridge is me 14:31:05 +LeeF; got it 14:33:09 chimezie has joined #dawg 14:34:00 +Chimezie_Ogbuji 14:35:40 +Souri_Das 14:36:56 +Sandro 14:37:33 Zakim, Sandro is temporarily ericP 14:37:33 +ericP; got it 14:37:42 Scribe: AndyS 14:37:48 EliasT has joined #dawg 14:37:54 souri has joined #dawg 14:38:11 Next meeting: next Tuesday 14:38:24 Regrets for next time: AndyS 14:38:33 Chair: LeeF 14:38:40 -> http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes minutes from 22 May 14:39:22 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/att-0060/22-dawg-minutes.htm minutes from 22 May 14:39:31 + regrets from PatH 14:39:50 I had sent (belated) regrets for that meeting 14:39:52 Seconded: Lee 14:39:56 Approved 14:40:16 + regrets from Souri 14:40:27 zakim, take up next agendum 14:40:27 agendum 1. "convene" taken up [from LeeF] 14:40:32 zakim, close this agendum 14:40:33 agendum 1 closed 14:40:35 I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 14:40:36 zakim, take up next agendum 14:40:37 2. action items [from LeeF] 14:40:39 agendum 2. "action items" taken up [from LeeF] 14:41:06 ACTION: LeeF to add `chimezie's leading digit test to the test suite [DONE] 14:41:16 ACTION: AndyS+EricP: Run through an example in yacker [CONTINUED] 14:41:43 ACTION: LeeF to mark the 4 regex tests approved [DONE] 14:41:47 Drop: action/ LeeF to remember that the wee, lost filter tests should be put 14:41:59 ACTION: ericP to poke IETF folks about registering SPARQL media types (esp. application/sparql-query) [CONTINUES] 14:42:03 will be done as part of test suite building 14:42:25 ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests [CONTINUES] 14:42:37 ACTION: ericP to get in touch with SteveH re: setting up an environment to generate an Overview page for tests in data-r2 a la http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ [CONTINUES] 14:42:46 ACTION: ericP, jeen, or LeeF to update http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/README with info on possible results format and on changes to manifest and test vocabularies [CONTINUES] 14:43:02 ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [CONTINUES] 14:43:20 zakim, close this agendum 14:43:20 agendum 2 closed 14:43:21 I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 14:43:22 3. CR publication status [from LeeF] 14:43:23 zakim, take up next agendum 14:43:23 agendum 3. "CR publication status" taken up [from LeeF] 14:45:39 PFPS comments: some editorial, some substantive 14:46:09 ... wants same answers as if graph were lean. 14:46:35 zakim, close this agendum 14:46:35 agendum 3 closed 14:46:36 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 14:46:38 zakim, take up next agendum 14:46:38 4. XML and JSON Results Format publication status [from LeeF] 14:46:39 agendum 4. "XML and JSON Results Format publication status" taken up [from LeeF] 14:46:39 ... EricP has sent replies (one editorial and one substantive) 14:46:51 ... unlikely not to object over the lean point 14:47:19 EricP: Result docs (XML, JSON) ready to go. 14:47:37 ... waiting for CR pub of the QL. 14:49:11 zakim, close this agendum 14:49:11 agendum 4 closed 14:49:12 I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 14:49:13 zakim, take up next agendum 14:49:14 5. Implementation report [from LeeF] 14:49:16 agendum 5. "Implementation report" taken up [from LeeF] 14:49:33 -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/facets list of SPARQL query language features 14:49:43 LeeF: Summary of last week: Eric can generate features list (see link) 14:50:52 ... idea is that when this is the reviewed list of features, then see the coverage we have in the current tests (tests/data) as we move them to (tests/data-r2) 14:51:11 ... asks for volunteers to review this list. 14:51:51 chimezie: appears driven by syntax, not execution model - how open is this feature list? 14:52:01 LeeF: it's open 14:54:32 EricP: e.g. OPTIONALs, no examples of same query structure, different test features so far 14:54:52 LeeF: Don't let this constrain a query 14:55:06 q+ 14:55:29 ack AndyS 14:55:56 AndyS: something worth testing - 2 OPTIONALs with a variable that doesn't appear elsewhere in the query 14:56:12 ... and there are other great cases. 14:58:01 http://www.w3.org/2005/01/yacker/uploads/SPARQLfed?markup=html&lang=perl&text=SELECT+*%0D%0A+WHERE+%7B+%3Fs+%3Fp+%3Fo+%7D%0D%0ABINDINGS+%3Fs+%3Fp+%7B%0D%0A++%28%3Cs1%3E+%3Cp1%3E%29%0D%0A++%28%3Cs2%3E+NULL%29+%7D&action=validate+text 15:00:13 ACTION: chimezie to review and send comments on feature list at http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/facets 15:00:46 LeeF: Related need same for the protocol (but it will be shorter). 15:00:59 Elias: will come up with first such list 15:01:09 ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing 15:02:08 LeeF: will then review features : for now, need Eric to manage this as he groks the format 15:02:41 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006OctDec/0009.html sample EARL test results 15:02:42 LeeF: We will be using EARL for results of implementation tests 15:02:54 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006OctDec/att-0009/rdfSemantics-earl.ttl sample EARL test results in turtle 15:03:35 ... will reach out to implementers once we have more coverage 15:05:26 EricP: Part of this is to "announce" SPARQL because we have good coverage interally to WG 15:05:52 zakim, close this agendum 15:05:52 agendum 5 closed 15:05:53 I see 1 item remaining on the agenda: 15:05:54 6. tests [from LeeF] 15:05:56 zakim, take up next agendum 15:05:56 agendum 6. "tests" taken up [from LeeF] 15:06:38 LeeF: request for volunteer for test review for identified tests 15:06:41 -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ 15:07:06 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/... 15:07:12 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/ 15:09:59 Chimezie offers to look at some tests - Lee encourages this 15:10:25 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JanMar/0117.html 15:11:37 LeeF: Syntax tests checked in 15:11:44 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/syntax-sparql4/syn-leading-digits-in-prefixed-names.rq 15:12:01 ARQ passes this test suite. 15:12:10 http://www.w3.org/2005/01/yacker/uploads/SPARQLfed?markup=html&lang=perl&text=PREFIX+dob%3A+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fplacetime.com%2Finterval%2Fgregorian%2F1977-01-18T04%3A00%3A00Z%2FP%3E+%0D%0APREFIX+time%3A+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.ai.sri.com%2Fdaml%2Fontologies%2Ftime%2FTime.daml%23%3E%0D%0APREFIX+dc%3A+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fpurl.org%2Fdc%2Felements%2F1.1%2F%3E%0D%0ASELECT+%3Fdesc%0D%0AWHERE++%7B+%0D%0A++dob%3A1D+a+time%3AProperInterval%3B%0D%0A+++++++++dc%3Adescription+%3Fdesc.%0D 15:12:12 PROPOSE: Approve http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/syntax-sparql4/syn-leading-digits-in-prefixed-names.rq 15:13:17 other unapproved syntax tests: 15:13:22 -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/syntax-sparql4/syn-bad-OPT-breaks-BGP.rq bad syntax test 15:13:22 There are 4 unapproved tests in that manifest 15:13:33 -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/syntax-sparql4/syn-bad-UNION-breaks-BGP.rq bad syntax test 15:13:41 -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/syntax-sparql4/syn-bad-GRAPH-breaks-BGP.rq 15:13:42 EliasT has joined #dawg 15:16:00 iv_an_ru has joined #dawg 15:17:30 PROPOSE: Approve http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/syntax-sparql4/syn-leading-digits-in-prefixed-names.rq http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/syntax-sparql4/syn-bad-OPT-breaks-BGP.rq http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/syntax-sparql4/syn-bad-UNION-breaks-BGP.rq and http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/syntax-sparql4/syn-bad-GRAPH-breaks-BGP.rq 15:17:46 ericP seconded 15:17:51 SECONDED: EricP , AndyS 15:17:57 RESOLVED 15:18:09 ACTION: LeeF to mark 4 syntax-sparql4 tests approved 15:19:47 Elias: HTTP tests, no SOAP tests. 15:23:01 ADJOURNED 15:23:13 rrsagent, please draft minutes 15:23:13 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-dawg-minutes.html AndyS 15:23:25 rrsagent, make minutes world-readable 15:23:25 I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes world-readable', AndyS. Try /msg RRSAgent help 15:23:33 -Souri_Das 15:23:33 rrsagent, make minutes public-readable 15:23:33 I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public-readable', AndyS. Try /msg RRSAgent help 15:23:37 rrsagent, make minutes public 15:23:37 I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', AndyS. Try /msg RRSAgent help 15:23:39 rrsagent, make logs world-access 15:23:41 :) 15:23:44 -Chimezie_Ogbuji 15:23:54 rrsagent, make minutes world-access 15:23:54 I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes world-access', AndyS. Try /msg RRSAgent help 15:26:31 Eric: can you de-403 the minutes, please? 15:27:57 http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-dawg-minutes seems to work for me 15:28:09 Ta - does now. 15:29:48 -LeeF 15:29:51 -AndyS 15:29:54 -ericP 15:29:56 SW_DAWG()10:30AM has ended 15:29:57 Attendees were AndyS, LeeF, Chimezie_Ogbuji, Souri_Das, ericP 15:30:07 rrsagent, please leave 15:30:07 I see 11 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-dawg-actions.rdf : 15:30:07 ACTION: LeeF to add `chimezie's leading digit test to the test suite [DONE] [1] 15:30:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-dawg-irc#T14-41-06 15:30:07 ACTION: AndyS+EricP: Run through an example in yacker [CONTINUED] [2] 15:30:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-dawg-irc#T14-41-16 15:30:07 ACTION: LeeF to mark the 4 regex tests approved [DONE] [3] 15:30:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-dawg-irc#T14-41-43 15:30:07 ACTION: ericP to poke IETF folks about registering SPARQL media types (esp. application/sparql-query) [CONTINUES] [4] 15:30:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-dawg-irc#T14-41-59 15:30:07 ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests [CONTINUES] [5] 15:30:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-dawg-irc#T14-42-25 15:30:07 ACTION: ericP to get in touch with SteveH re: setting up an environment to generate an Overview page for tests in data-r2 a la http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ [CONTINUES] [6] 15:30:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-dawg-irc#T14-42-37 15:30:07 ACTION: ericP, jeen, or LeeF to update http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/README with info on possible results format and on changes to manifest and test vocabularies [CONTINUES] [7] 15:30:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-dawg-irc#T14-42-46 15:30:07 ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [CONTINUES] [8] 15:30:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-dawg-irc#T14-43-02 15:30:07 ACTION: chimezie to review and send comments on feature list at http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/facets [9] 15:30:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-dawg-irc#T15-00-13 15:30:07 ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing [10] 15:30:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-dawg-irc#T15-01-09 15:30:07 ACTION: LeeF to mark 4 syntax-sparql4 tests approved [11] 15:30:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-dawg-irc#T15-18-09