14:18:02 RRSAgent has joined #dawg 14:18:02 logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-irc 14:18:06 zakim, this will be DAWG 14:18:08 ok, LeeF; I see SW_DAWG()10:30AM scheduled to start in 12 minutes 14:19:21 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0057.html 14:19:33 LeeF has changed the topic to: RDF Data Access Weekly - Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0057.html 14:19:42 Meeting: RDF DAWG Weekly 14:19:46 Chair: LeeF 14:20:03 Regrets: Jeen, SteveH, PatH, EliasT, Chimezie 14:20:44 agenda + convene 14:20:46 agenda + action items 14:20:51 agenda + CR publication status 14:21:03 agenda + result format docs publication status 14:21:08 agenda + implementation report 14:21:11 agenda + test suite 14:21:13 AndyS has joined #dawg 14:22:00 moreso just that a lot of things have fallen into your lap, I'd say 14:22:04 plus travel and all 14:30:08 SW_DAWG()10:30AM has now started 14:30:15 +??P0 14:30:18 zakim, ??P0 is me 14:30:18 +AndyS; got it 14:30:43 +ericP 14:30:50 SimonR has joined #dawg 14:31:33 +??P5 14:31:40 Zakim, ??P5 is me 14:31:40 +SimonR; got it 14:31:44 +LeeF 14:32:39 http://www.w3.org/mid/20070518004333.GC4091@w3.org 14:33:53 zakim, who's here? 14:33:53 On the phone I see AndyS, ericP, SimonR, LeeF 14:33:55 On IRC I see SimonR, AndyS, RRSAgent, Zakim, LeeF, SteveH, afs, iv_an_ru, ericP 14:36:13 zakim, take up first agendum 14:36:13 I don't understand 'take up first agendum', LeeF 14:36:16 zakim, take up next agendum 14:36:16 agendum 1. "convene" taken up [from LeeF] 14:36:56 Scribe: AndyS 14:37:23 -> http://www.w3.org/2007/05/01-dawg-minutes.html may 1 minutes 14:37:40 Regrets: SteveH, EliasT, Chimezie, Jeen 14:37:50 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/att-0045/08-dawg-minutes.html may 8 minutes 14:38:22 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/att-0056/15-dawg-minutes.html may 15 minutes 14:38:38 -> http://www.w3.org/2007/05/15-dawg-minutes may 15 minutes for real 14:39:07 (includes CR request for QL) 14:39:25 zakim, close this agendum 14:39:25 agendum 1 closed 14:39:26 APPROVED 14:39:26 I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 14:39:27 2. action items [from LeeF] 14:39:28 zakim, take up next agendum 14:39:28 agendum 2. "action items" taken up [from LeeF] 14:40:11 ACTION: ericP to poke IETF folks about registering SPARQL media types (esp. application/sparql-query) 14:40:15 CONTINUED 14:41:01 ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests [CONTINUED] 14:41:28 ACTION: ericP to get in touch with SteveH re: setting up an environment to generate an Overview page for tests in data-r2 a la http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ [CONTINUED] 14:41:56 ACTION: ericP, jeen, or LeeF to update http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/README with info on possible results format and on changes to manifest and test vocabularies [CONTINUED] 14:42:11 ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [CONTINUED] 14:42:30 ACTION: LeeF to add Chimezie's leading digit test to the test suite [CONTINUED] 14:42:59 ACTION: LeeF to remember that the wee, lost filter tests should be put http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-dawg-minutes.html#action05 [CONTINUED] 14:43:12 ACTION: LeeF to mark the 4 regex tests approved [CONTINUED] 14:43:24 CR Publication statuss 14:44:07 RIF to review for compatibility between RIF extensions and SPARQL 14:44:13 ... by mid July 14:44:26 ... OPTIONAL and BOUND() 14:44:57 LeeF: CG requests to check with PFPS on comment status 14:45:20 (the PFPS request is actually from W3C team, fwiw) 14:45:30 EricP: Contacted Peter and helping the timescale for a week or so. 14:45:52 ... -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2007May/0015.html 14:46:30 ... one tiny other change for codepoint sorting. 14:46:42 ... (not in that email) 14:47:21 LeeF: Please hold off until CR done because this is the bytes to CR 14:47:42 ... then WG can agree changes in normal tracking process 14:48:03 ... not waiting for CR on RIF - RIF will review in CR 14:48:24 ... only pending item is PFPS email 14:48:44 AndyS: How long is CR? 14:49:07 LeeF: Guaranteed time is end May (??) to end July but also ... 14:49:18 ... need to fulfil the other exit criteria 14:49:32 ... PR beginning of August earliest 14:49:54 zakim, take up next agendum 14:49:54 agendum 3. "CR publication status" taken up [from LeeF] 14:49:57 zakim, take up next agendum 14:49:57 agendum 3 was just opened, LeeF 14:50:01 zakim, close this agenum 14:50:02 I don't understand 'close this agenum', LeeF 14:50:04 zakim, close this agendum 14:50:04 agendum 3 closed 14:50:05 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 14:50:06 zakim, take up next agendum 14:50:07 4. result format docs publication status [from LeeF] 14:50:08 agendum 4. "result format docs publication status" taken up [from LeeF] 14:50:48 EricP: (JSON republish) Ready to go except for the date 14:51:01 LeeF: Make it so 14:51:04 zakim, close this agendum 14:51:04 agendum 4 closed 14:51:05 I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 14:51:06 5. implementation report [from LeeF] 14:51:08 zakim, take up next agendum 14:51:08 agendum 5. "implementation report" taken up [from LeeF] 14:51:49 EricP: IETF process gets started when we are in CR 14:52:49 LeeF: Grammar => feature list. Is this manually tidied? 14:53:29 EricP: Feature set is handwritten. 14:56:25 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/facets 14:56:30 comes from http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/facets.ttl 14:56:43 AndyS: Need also some tests of multiple features (e.g. nested patterns) 14:57:52 LeeF: Excellent starting point, maybe close to the end point 14:58:03 ... it needs a second pair of eyes 14:58:19 EricP: Red - incomplete 14:58:34 ... need to switch to XPath 14:59:51 ACTION: AndyS+EricP: Run through an example in yacker 15:00:57 LeeF: Once we have a list of feature, can we classify the existing tests by features automatically? 15:01:03 EricP: Yes 15:01:19 something that needs to be done: summarize coverage of test suite vis a vis facets 15:01:26 (what facets are not covered, which tests might be redundant) 15:01:53 LeeF: What technologies needed? 15:02:28 EricP: perl, SPARQL parser from yacker, shell script to find manifest, xslt engine 15:02:35 example spopo query: http://w3.org/brief/NDQ= 15:03:36 LeeF: Once we have this, need to capture implemenations. 15:04:02 ... using EARL for implementation results was the consensus. 15:04:30 ... need to publish examples/HowTo doc 15:04:57 ... do we require EARL formatted results? 15:05:23 ... what's the W3C practice here? 15:05:31 EricP: example ... 15:05:31 example EARL format: http://www.w3.org/mid/20061002130321.GB5350@w3.org 15:06:03 If people give us EARL, their gratification will be more instantaneous than if we have put in the effort to do the translation for them. :) 15:06:28 ... web form? 15:07:36 I'm happy to do some of the translation work if we end up getting non-EARL. 15:07:59 LeeF: "Encourage" EARL 15:08:15 EricP: Require until we have to convert 15:09:06 example earl results -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006OctDec/att-0009/rdfSemantics-earl.ttl 15:10:11 zakim, take up next agendum 15:10:11 agendum 6. "test suite" taken up [from LeeF] 15:10:33 5B: Elias ready and willing 15:10:43 (Protocol testing) 15:11:38 LeeF: for QL, need to move stuff over, please help move tests over as you have time 15:11:56 ... Jeen back next week 15:12:09 ... manifests need fix up 15:12:20 ... but that's all 15:13:03 ... getting coverage should be OK 15:13:11 ... work is to prove this 15:14:02 ADJOURNED 15:14:05 Adjourn at 15:15Z 15:14:10 AndyS has left #dawg 15:14:12 -SimonR 15:14:13 -LeeF 15:14:14 -AndyS 15:14:18 -ericP 15:14:20 SW_DAWG()10:30AM has ended 15:14:21 Attendees were AndyS, ericP, SimonR, LeeF 15:14:29 rrsagent, please draft minutes 15:14:29 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html LeeF 15:14:34 rrsagent, make logs world-access 15:16:03 http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes successfully chacl'd 15:49:55 SteveH has joined #dawg