IRC log of forms on 2007-04-18

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14:54:05 [RRSAgent]
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logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/04/18-forms-irc
14:54:08 [CharlieW]
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14:54:15 [John_Boyer]
zakim, this will be forms
14:54:15 [Zakim]
ok, John_Boyer; I see HTML_Forms()11:00AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
14:54:32 [John_Boyer]
Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Teleconference
14:54:51 [John_Boyer]
John_Boyer has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Apr/0021.html
14:54:56 [John_Boyer]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Apr/0021.html
14:55:07 [John_Boyer]
rrsagent, make log public
14:55:44 [schnitz]
zakim, code?
14:55:44 [Zakim]
the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), schnitz
14:55:54 [schnitz]
zakim, code?
14:55:54 [lars]
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14:55:56 [Zakim]
the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), schnitz
14:57:07 [Blake]
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14:57:30 [Zakim]
HTML_Forms()11:00AM has now started
14:57:39 [Zakim]
+[IBM]
14:57:50 [CharlieW]
zakim, [IBM] is CharlieW
14:57:51 [Zakim]
+John_Boyer
14:57:53 [Zakim]
+CharlieW; got it
14:58:22 [schnitz]
zakim, code?
14:58:27 [Zakim]
the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), schnitz
14:58:50 [Zakim]
+ +1.812.535.aaaa
14:59:09 [Blake]
zakim, aaaa is Blake
14:59:16 [David_Landwehr]
David_Landwehr has joined #forms
14:59:18 [Zakim]
+Blake; got it
14:59:25 [David_Landwehr]
zakim, code?
14:59:25 [Zakim]
the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), David_Landwehr
14:59:32 [Zakim]
+Raman
15:00:04 [schnitz]
zakim, code?
15:00:04 [Zakim]
the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), schnitz
15:00:10 [Zakim]
+[IPcaller]
15:00:19 [David_Landwehr]
Zakim, [IP is David_Landwehr
15:00:19 [Zakim]
+David_Landwehr; got it
15:00:45 [Zakim]
+ +0125242aabb
15:01:12 [lars]
zakim, +0125 is me
15:01:13 [Zakim]
+lars; got it
15:01:42 [schnitz]
calling from a car
15:01:51 [Steven]
zakim, dial steven-617
15:01:51 [Zakim]
ok, Steven; the call is being made
15:01:53 [Zakim]
+Steven
15:01:55 [Roger]
Roger has joined #forms
15:02:00 [jturner]
jturner has joined #forms
15:02:09 [jan]
jan has joined #forms
15:02:12 [Rafael]
Rafael has joined #forms
15:02:31 [Zakim]
+ +49.176.251.2.aacc
15:03:01 [schnitz]
zakim, mute me
15:03:01 [Zakim]
sorry, schnitz, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
15:03:03 [lars]
zakim, mute me
15:03:03 [Zakim]
lars should now be muted
15:03:13 [David_Landwehr]
Zakim, mut eme
15:03:13 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'mut eme', David_Landwehr
15:03:14 [Zakim]
+[IBM]
15:03:16 [David_Landwehr]
Zakim, mute eme
15:03:16 [Zakim]
sorry, David_Landwehr, I do not know which phone connection belongs to eme
15:03:17 [jan]
zakim, [ibm is jan
15:03:18 [Zakim]
+jan; got it
15:03:39 [Roger_]
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15:03:54 [CharlieW]
zakim, who is talking?
15:03:56 [Roger_]
zakim, what is the code?
15:03:56 [Zakim]
the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Roger_
15:04:06 [Zakim]
CharlieW, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: David_Landwehr (11%), +49.176.251.2.aacc (98%)
15:04:26 [schnitz]
zakim, 49 is me
15:04:26 [Zakim]
sorry, schnitz, I do not recognize a party named '49'
15:04:26 [schnitz]
zakim +49 is me
15:04:26 [schnitz]
zakim, mute me
15:04:27 [Zakim]
sorry, schnitz, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
15:04:36 [Steven]
zakim, aaaa is schnitz
15:04:36 [Zakim]
sorry, Steven, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
15:04:44 [John_Boyer]
zakim, 49 is schnitz
15:04:46 [Zakim]
sorry, John_Boyer, I do not recognize a party named '49'
15:04:49 [lars]
zakim, aacc is schnitz
15:04:53 [Zakim]
+schnitz; got it
15:05:00 [Steven]
zakim, mute schnitz
15:05:07 [Zakim]
schnitz should now be muted
15:05:09 [Zakim]
+ +0091211aadd
15:05:15 [Steven]
zakim, who is noisy?
15:05:25 [Zakim]
Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: CharlieW (8%), John_Boyer (9%), David_Landwehr (57%)
15:05:27 [schnitz]
Steven, thanks
15:05:32 [Roger_]
zakim, aadd is Roger_;
15:05:32 [Zakim]
+Roger_;; got it
15:05:32 [Steven]
zakim, mute David
15:05:33 [Zakim]
David_Landwehr should now be muted
15:05:39 [Zakim]
+markbirbeck
15:05:43 [Roger_]
zakim, Roger_ has Rafael;
15:05:43 [Zakim]
+Rafael;; got it
15:05:50 [schnitz]
ok
15:05:54 [schnitz]
thanks
15:06:13 [Zakim]
+ +49.308.322.aaee
15:06:29 [jturner]
zakim, aaee is me
15:06:29 [Zakim]
+jturner; got it
15:06:38 [klotz]
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15:06:45 [Darrell]
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15:07:12 [schnitz]
;-)
15:07:20 [John_Boyer]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Apr/0021.html
15:07:42 [Zakim]
+ +1.613.940.aaff
15:07:57 [klotz]
zakim, what is the code
15:07:57 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'what is the code', klotz
15:08:03 [Darrell]
zakim, i am +1.613.940.aaff
15:08:03 [Zakim]
+Darrell; got it
15:08:06 [John_Boyer]
zakim, code?
15:08:06 [Zakim]
the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), John_Boyer
15:08:08 [jturner]
zakim, mute me
15:08:09 [Steven]
zakim, code?
15:08:09 [Zakim]
jturner should now be muted
15:08:11 [Zakim]
the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Steven
15:08:26 [John_Boyer]
Chair: John
15:08:29 [John_Boyer]
Scribe: Leigh
15:08:36 [John_Boyer]
scribenick: klotz
15:08:42 [ebruchez1]
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15:08:53 [John_Boyer]
Regrets: Ulrich
15:09:33 [Zakim]
+Leigh_Klotz
15:10:47 [Steven]
zakim, who is noisy?
15:10:58 [Zakim]
Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: markbirbeck (56%), John_Boyer (18%), Roger_; (9%)
15:11:11 [Roger_]
zakim, mute me
15:11:11 [Zakim]
Roger_; should now be muted
15:11:56 [Zakim]
+[IPcaller]
15:12:09 [ebruchez1]
zakim, [IP is ebruchez1
15:12:09 [Zakim]
+ebruchez1; got it
15:12:59 [markbirbeck]
q+
15:13:45 [John_Boyer]
Working group: Leigh's minutes are so good that we should not throw those out for the sake of visibility on the IRC channel
15:13:51 [schnitz]
I think leigh should do it
15:13:51 [schnitz]
+1
15:14:25 [John_Boyer]
MarkB: Leigh's minutes are much better than IRC for ressurrecting the content of technical discussions
15:15:56 [schnitz]
zakim, unmute me
15:15:56 [Zakim]
schnitz should no longer be muted
15:16:27 [schnitz]
zakim, mute me
15:16:27 [Zakim]
schnitz should now be muted
15:16:48 [John_Boyer]
John: No one from the outside is pressuring us to do this.
15:18:53 [Steven]
zakim, mute me
15:18:53 [Zakim]
Steven should now be muted
15:18:56 [Steven]
lol
15:19:03 [John_Boyer]
RESOLUTION: continue with minutes by Leigh whenever possible (which are typed separately, not on IRC, and delivered to public list)
15:19:57 [Steven]
ack me
15:20:13 [markbirbeck]
ack
15:20:19 [markbirbeck]
zakim, ack
15:20:19 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'ack', markbirbeck
15:20:54 [markbirbeck]
q-
15:20:58 [Steven]
zakim, mute me
15:20:58 [Zakim]
Steven should now be muted
15:21:37 [Steven]
sounds good to me
15:21:48 [Nick]
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15:22:11 [Nick]
sorry, I have a week off, but forgot to send regrets
15:22:33 [Steven]
ack david
15:22:33 [David_Landwehr]
zakim, unmute me
15:22:35 [klotz]
Hello David_Landwehr?
15:22:36 [Zakim]
David_Landwehr was not muted, David_Landwehr
15:22:42 [David_Landwehr]
zakim, mute me
15:22:42 [Zakim]
David_Landwehr should now be muted
15:22:47 [David_Landwehr]
zakim, unmute me
15:22:47 [Zakim]
David_Landwehr should no longer be muted
15:23:04 [David_Landwehr]
zakim, mute me
15:23:04 [Zakim]
David_Landwehr should now be muted
15:23:13 [Zakim]
-Raman
15:23:21 [Nick]
talk to you all next week
15:23:57 [Nick]
Nick has left #Forms
15:25:43 [Steven]
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/2007/07/ftf/Overview.html
15:26:55 [Steven]
ack me
15:29:17 [schnitz]
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15:30:27 [schnitz]
zakim, who is here?
15:30:27 [Zakim]
On the phone I see CharlieW, John_Boyer, Blake, David_Landwehr (muted), lars (muted), Steven, schnitz (muted), jan, Roger_; (muted), markbirbeck, jturner (muted), Darrell,
15:30:31 [Zakim]
... Leigh_Klotz, ebruchez1
15:30:32 [Zakim]
Roger_; has Rafael;
15:30:34 [Zakim]
On IRC I see schnitz, ebruchez1, Darrell, klotz, Roger_, Rafael, jan, jturner, David_Landwehr, Blake, lars, CharlieW, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, Steven, markbirbeck
15:30:42 [Steven]
zakim, mute me
15:30:42 [Zakim]
Steven should now be muted
15:30:49 [Steven]
ack me
15:31:32 [Steven]
zakim, mute me
15:31:32 [Zakim]
Steven should now be muted
15:32:36 [schnitz]
agreed
15:33:05 [schnitz]
;-)
15:33:12 [schnitz]
LOL
15:34:56 [schnitz]
good idea
15:34:59 [jturner]
agree
15:35:17 [Steven]
ack me
15:37:11 [schnitz]
still didn't get that mail raman announces, anyone else got it by now?
15:37:39 [John_Boyer]
I think it was a chair-only note...
15:38:35 [schnitz]
ack me
15:38:51 [schnitz]
zakim, mute me
15:38:51 [Zakim]
schnitz should now be muted
15:39:23 [Steven]
ack me
15:41:42 [Steven]
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=32219
15:43:05 [John_Boyer]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Apr/0002.html
15:44:28 [John_Boyer]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2003Aug/0002.html
15:45:42 [John_Boyer]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2003Aug/0003.html
15:46:33 [schnitz]
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schnitz has joined #forms
15:48:11 [John_Boyer]
Addressing Bjoern's mail...
15:48:16 [schnitz]
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15:48:51 [schnitz]
CSS3-UI is in CR
15:48:57 [Steven]
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34637/xformsftf200706/
15:49:04 [Steven]
FtF registration is now open
15:50:34 [CharlieW]
text on questionnaire says palo alto
15:50:40 [CharlieW]
link to logistics broken
15:50:51 [Steven]
oops
15:50:53 [Steven]
looking
15:51:15 [John_Boyer]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2004Jan/0004.html
15:53:24 [schnitz]
leigh, +1
15:54:03 [schnitz]
right, this is very old
15:54:18 [schnitz]
it originall came from Larry and IETF
15:55:38 [Steven]
Should work now
15:55:50 [Steven]
Charlie, please see question in separate channel
15:55:53 [Steven]
regarding meal
15:56:49 [lars]
zakim, unmute me
15:56:49 [Zakim]
lars should no longer be muted
15:57:53 [CharlieW]
if this is a public page could you please remove the specific amount of the IBM rate...just say ask for the IBM rate...thx
15:58:04 [Steven]
ok
15:58:06 [Steven]
will do
15:58:32 [Steven]
done
15:59:06 [schnitz]
ack me
15:59:12 [Steven]
zakim, mute me
15:59:12 [Zakim]
Steven should now be muted
16:00:12 [CharlieW]
don't see meal question...want to email>?
16:00:27 [Steven]
Will there be a group meal?
16:00:31 [Steven]
If so which day
16:00:35 [Steven]
(I have said Wednesday)
16:00:37 [CharlieW]
assuming yes
16:00:39 [Steven]
ok
16:00:45 [CharlieW]
wed is good
16:00:48 [Steven]
OK
16:00:49 [Steven]
thanks
16:01:00 [Zakim]
-Darrell
16:02:24 [Roger_]
thx & bye
16:02:24 [Zakim]
-ebruchez1
16:02:24 [jturner]
bye
16:02:25 [Zakim]
-jan
16:02:25 [schnitz]
zakim, mute me
16:02:26 [Zakim]
-Steven
16:02:28 [Roger_]
exit
16:02:29 [Zakim]
-markbirbeck
16:02:30 [Zakim]
-lars
16:02:31 [Zakim]
-Blake
16:02:33 [Zakim]
schnitz should now be muted
16:02:34 [Zakim]
-CharlieW
16:02:35 [Zakim]
-John_Boyer
16:02:37 [Zakim]
-Leigh_Klotz
16:02:38 [Zakim]
-jturner
16:02:39 [Zakim]
-Roger_;
16:02:41 [Zakim]
-schnitz
16:02:58 [klotz]
shall i post actions here?
16:03:02 [John_Boyer]
zakim, who is here?
16:03:02 [Zakim]
On the phone I see David_Landwehr
16:03:05 [Zakim]
On IRC I see ebruchez1, klotz, Roger_, jan, jturner, David_Landwehr, Blake, lars, CharlieW, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, Steven, markbirbeck
16:03:16 [Steven]
zakim, drop david
16:03:18 [John_Boyer]
Um, I think whatever you normally do works for Nick
16:03:19 [Zakim]
-David_Landwehr
16:03:23 [Zakim]
HTML_Forms()11:00AM has ended
16:03:26 [klotz]
ok, no then.
16:03:28 [Zakim]
Attendees were John_Boyer, CharlieW, +1.812.535.aaaa, Blake, Raman, [IPcaller], David_Landwehr, +0125242aabb, lars, Steven, +49.176.251.2.aacc, [IBM], jan, schnitz, +0091211aadd,
16:03:28 [John_Boyer]
So, no change
16:03:37 [Zakim]
... markbirbeck, Rafael;, +49.308.322.aaee, jturner, +1.613.940.aaff, Darrell, Leigh_Klotz, ebruchez1
16:03:45 [Zakim]
sorry, Steven, I don't know what conference this is
16:03:55 [John_Boyer]
That's odd!
16:03:59 [John_Boyer]
I told zakim it was forms
16:04:06 [John_Boyer]
6 minutes before we started!
16:04:19 [Steven]
no, david left before zakim read my command, so zakim ended the call
16:04:28 [John_Boyer]
Oh!
16:04:36 [John_Boyer]
rrsagent, make minutes
16:04:36 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/18-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer
16:04:48 [John_Boyer]
rrsagent, bye
16:04:48 [RRSAgent]
I see no action items