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13:53:28 <ivan> zakim, this will be sweo
13:53:28 <Zakim> ok, ivan; I see SW_SWEO()10:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
13:53:36 <ivan> rrsagent, set log public
13:53:58 <ivan> Meeting: SWEO Weekly Telco
13:54:02 <ivan> Chair: Susie
13:54:12 <ivan> Regrets: Pasquale
13:59:16 <Zakim> SW_SWEO()10:00AM has now started
13:59:22 <Zakim> +??P8
13:59:30 <uldis> ??P8 is uldis
13:59:35 <wing> zakim, code?
13:59:35 <Zakim> the conference code is 7936 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), wing
13:59:56 <uldis> zakim, ??P8 is uldis
13:59:56 <Zakim> +uldis; got it
13:59:58 <Zakim> +[IBMCambridge]
14:00:01 <wing> zakim, IBMCambridge is wing
14:00:01 <Zakim> +wing; got it
14:00:17 <Zakim> +Kingsley_Idehen
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14:00:35 <Zakim> +Susie
14:00:41 <Zakim> +Jeff_Schiffel
14:01:02 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-home
14:01:02 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
14:01:03 <Zakim> +Ivan
14:01:23 <bengee> zakim,  [IPcaller] is me
14:01:23 <Zakim> +bengee; got it
14:02:27 <Zakim> + +1.603.557.aaaa
14:02:41 <Zakim> -bengee
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14:03:11 <leobard> hi
14:04:00 <ivan> scribenick uldis
14:04:03 <ivan> scribenick: uldis
14:04:03 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:04:11 <uldis> Susie giving outline of the telco
14:04:11 <bengee> zakim,  [IPcaller] is me
14:04:11 <Zakim> +bengee; got it
14:04:23 <uldis> talk about enterprise survey, use cases, finish with work on logos
14:04:55 <uldis> Nelly from Oracle
14:05:00 <uldis> introducing herself
14:05:07 <wing> s/N/M
14:05:11 <uldis> part of SemWeb technology development group
14:05:18 <Zakim> +??P20
14:05:20 <ivan> (full name: Melliyal Annamalai)
14:05:22 <wing> welcome!
14:05:28 <Zakim> +Orri_Erling
14:05:30 <uldis> group also interacting w. customers and exploring use cases 
14:05:32 <leobard> I just joined
14:05:41 <ivan> zakim, ??P20 is leo
14:05:41 <Zakim> +leo; got it
14:06:21 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
14:06:22 <Zakim> On the phone I see uldis, wing, Kingsley_Idehen, Susie, Jeff_Schiffel, Ivan, +1.603.557.aaaa, bengee, leo, Orri_Erling
14:06:24 <Zakim> On IRC I see leobard, kidehen, RRSAgent, Zakim, wing, bengee, uldis, ivan
14:06:41 <uldis> Leo to give update in InfoGathering tasks
14:06:53 <uldis> last week started w. license issues
14:07:06 <uldis> Ivan got us legal advice from W3C
14:07:20 <ivan> (from Rigo Wenning, W3C team)
14:07:33 <uldis> Leo talked w. Rigo Winning re. license advice
14:07:53 <uldis> got some feedback from people re. data sources and licenses to use
14:07:59 <uldis> Leo will forward this info to the list
14:08:09 <uldis> CC license is what people want
14:09:07 <uldis> "gather info now, let's visualise afterwards"
14:09:36 <uldis> will continue info-gathering as it is, providing all the data about SemWeb in RDF
14:09:53 <uldis> as a 2nd step we work on annotating, filtering and cleaning this data, and visualising it
14:10:04 <uldis> can even make a new task force for this task
14:10:20 <uldis> Susie: what a data format will be finished
14:10:39 <uldis> Leo: we need time. not so many edits on data formats page
14:10:55 <uldis> great if someone could make a good HowTo on the wiki
14:11:05 <uldis> on info gathering and formats to use, Leo?
14:11:11 <leobard> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering/DataVocabulary
14:11:39 <uldis> kidehen: do we need a text on the wiki saying "here's the guide for publishing the data"?
14:11:44 <uldis> yes
14:11:53 <uldis> definitive statement how to contribute data to this effort
14:12:17 <kidehen> kidehen: agrees to do how-to contribute RDF Data to Info Gathering effort
14:12:27 <uldis> leobard published a URL fo the wiki page, need some editors for it
14:12:54 <uldis> kidehen will start the edits on it
14:13:07 <uldis> others can / should join
14:13:41 <uldis> action: Leo to send email to the list about this wiki page and guides for contributing
14:14:06 <uldis> Leo: happy to see people from outside the IG reply and provide data
14:14:24 <uldis> next item: Enterprise Survey
14:14:43 <uldis> Karen's dedicating the day to finishing the survey, 
14:14:48 <uldis> will have the draft shortly
14:15:00 <uldis> next item: Use Cases
14:15:09 <uldis> ivan giving an update
14:15:21 <uldis> last week uploaded & finalises Segala's use case
14:15:38 <uldis> today finalised case study from ... (company name?)
14:15:46 <ivan> Tata Consulting Services
14:15:52 <uldis> thanks 
14:16:05 <uldis> had contacts with Renault
14:16:16 <uldis> agreed to do a use case to use the SemWeb 
14:16:22 <uldis> for their internal documentation
14:16:31 <uldis> 3 weeks from now
14:16:49 <uldis> got an agreement with a food & agriculture organisation
14:16:56 <uldis> Susie talked w. people in Pfizer
14:17:12 <uldis> ... did not catch the last one from Susie ...
14:17:37 <uldis> use case w. Shevron
14:17:53 <wing> s/Shevron/Chevron
14:17:53 <uldis> we will have 10-12 use cases that we can publicise
14:17:59 <uldis> thanks for the corrections
14:18:25 <uldis> ivan unified all the formats, converted to PDFs
14:19:36 <uldis> Leo to remind ... 
14:19:57 <uldis> next item: Logos
14:20:05 <uldis> bengee gives an overview
14:20:36 <bengee> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/Misc/LogoIdeas
14:21:16 <uldis> #9 and #10 are variations of what was decided the last call
14:21:30 <uldis> #9 by Kingsley with a lighter font
14:22:17 <uldis> discussion
14:22:26 <uldis> Susie: #9 and #10 are nice. good progress.
14:22:36 <uldis> q+
14:22:47 <ivan> ack uldis
14:24:04 <uldis> uldis: #6 stands out more than #10
14:24:21 <uldis> Susie: maybe have 2 different options to use according to what background they are on
14:24:47 <uldis> ivan: has bengee tried to reduce #10 to smaller versions like we had for #6
14:25:07 <uldis> small versions is what one will use on many pages. how does that look w. #10
14:25:47 <uldis> action: bengie to make smaller versions of #10
14:27:03 <uldis> ivan more in favor of #10. more appealing for esthetics.
14:27:58 <uldis> nice progress, need to get the small size and then we're done
14:28:22 <uldis> that's all for the set agenda
14:28:35 <uldis> please let know if you can make it to F2F at the end of this month
14:28:55 <uldis> FAQ - please look it over and provide comments
14:29:55 <uldis> discussion of any other business
14:30:08 <uldis> wing - putting together a presentation for ...
14:30:27 <uldis> ivan - arranging to meet up with ... 
14:30:36 <wing> yue pan in china
14:30:40 <uldis> next Tue is a monthly Cambridge area SemWeb meetup
14:30:52 <uldis> if you are in the area, that's a good event to participate in
14:31:03 <wing> wing - presentation for SICoP
14:31:40 <ivan> q+
14:32:35 <uldis> Susie tells about the case studies
14:33:00 <uldis> couple of pages, to help CEO and CIO see how to make use of the Semantic Web
14:34:41 <uldis> F2F is to get all of us together in one room, focused to do SWEO work
14:35:04 <uldis> ack ivan
14:35:46 <uldis> ivan: experience when meeting w. industries is - they want to see some kind of proof that somebody is already using this technology for making money
14:36:01 <uldis> until now no such a list, Ivan has some pointers which are in presentations here and there
14:36:28 <uldis> having clear use cases, signed by companies themselves is an important thing to answer these questions
14:36:34 <uldis> they will be public documents
14:37:50 <uldis> q+
14:39:08 <ivan> ack uldis
14:41:18 <uldis> http://www.icwsm.org/blog/index.html
14:41:35 <uldis> 1st International Conf. on Weblogs and Social Media
14:42:03 <uldis> a conference to keep an eye on. there are things how this area can benefit from the SemWeb and structured data, but more outreach needed
14:42:15 <uldis> kidehen: about community projects summary
14:42:31 <uldis> project ... (what was the name?)
14:42:43 <uldis> within Linking OpenData project will inject RDF/OWL
14:42:58 <uldis> will have a generic testbed for RDF / SemWeb tech.
14:43:03 <uldis> another project ...
14:43:07 <uldis> financial data
14:43:16 <uldis> kidehen: if you can put project names in IRC
14:43:32 <uldis> ontology to query financial and economic data
14:43:49 <uldis> those 2 efforts have come in to a particular project
14:45:23 <uldis> Karen is trying to build contact with different financial institutions via W3C
14:45:39 <uldis> would be good if kidehen help in making these contacts
14:45:55 <uldis> send all this information to Karen
14:47:36 <uldis> we need not only a creation of ontology but a use case where it is used
14:48:40 <uldis> kidehen: the particular case is describing creation of ontology
14:48:59 <uldis> ivan: a use case is a step further - that an institution is already using this data
14:49:41 <uldis> kidehen: the delay between an ontology and creation of instance data will be very short
14:49:48 <uldis> will revisit this next week
14:50:55 <uldis> XBRL
14:51:22 <kidehen> xbrl.org
14:51:24 <Zakim> -Susie
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14:51:36 <Zakim> -wing
14:51:37 <Zakim> SW_SWEO()10:00AM has ended
14:51:38 <Zakim> Attendees were uldis, wing, Kingsley_Idehen, Susie, Jeff_Schiffel, Ivan, bengee, +1.603.557.aaaa, Orri_Erling, leo
14:51:51 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:51:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-sweo-minutes.html ivan
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14:52:40 <ivan> rrsagent, bye
14:52:40 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-sweo-actions.rdf :
14:52:40 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Leo to send email to the list about this wiki page and guides for contributing [1]
14:52:40 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-sweo-irc#T14-13-41
14:52:40 <RRSAgent> ACTION: bengie to make smaller versions of #10 [2]
14:52:40 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-sweo-irc#T14-25-47