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14:03:01 <LeeF> zakim, this will be SWEO
14:03:01 <Zakim> ok, LeeF, I see SW_SWEO()10:00AM already started
14:03:04 <LeeF> zakim, code?
14:03:05 <Zakim> the conference code is 7936 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), LeeF
14:03:28 <Susie> Regrets: Uldis Bojars, Karen Myers, Yue Pan, Melli Annamalai, Ina O'Murchu, Ivan Hermann
14:03:29 <Zakim> +LeeF
14:04:12 <LeeF> Meeting: Semantic Web Education and Outreach
14:04:19 <LeeF> Chair: Susie
14:04:25 <Zakim> +??P9
14:04:36 <wing> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:04:36 <Zakim> On the phone I see Susie, ??P13, [IBMCambridge], Orri_Erling, LeeF, ??P9
14:04:38 <bengee> zaki, P9 is bengee
14:04:39 <Zakim> +PaulaP
14:04:42 <wing> zakim, IBMCambridge is wing
14:04:42 <Zakim> +wing; got it
14:04:43 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?
14:04:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see Susie, ??P13, wing, Orri_Erling, LeeF, ??P9, PaulaP
14:04:45 <bengee> zakim, P9 is bengee
14:04:45 <Zakim> sorry, bengee, I do not recognize a party named 'P9'
14:04:49 <LeeF> zakim, ??P9 is bengee
14:04:49 <Zakim> +bengee; got it
14:05:27 <LeeF> zakim, ??P13 is kidehen_
14:05:27 <Zakim> +kidehen_; got it
14:06:29 <LeeF> ScribeNick: LeeF
14:08:03 <Zakim> + +049895480aaaa
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14:08:46 <LeeF> zakim, aaaa is dunja
14:08:46 <Zakim> +dunja; got it
14:08:59 <Zakim> +??P15
14:09:08 <LeeF> zakim, ??P15 is martin
14:09:08 <Zakim> +martin; got it
14:09:14 <LeeF> zakim, martin is martind
14:09:14 <Zakim> +martind; got it
14:10:27 <LeeF> topic: European Semantic Technologies Conference collateral
14:10:54 <LeeF> ScribeNick: wing
14:11:14 <wing> susie: maybe it should be a general SW flyer
14:11:33 <wing> susie: can be used at other events too
14:11:46 <martind> q+
14:12:19 <wing> susie: start with general introduction, then talk about application areas, then highlight brief examples. short and high-level.
14:12:44 <Zakim> +??P16
14:12:51 <wing> ack q
14:13:03 <kjetilk> Zakim, P16 is me
14:13:03 <Zakim> sorry, kjetilk, I do not recognize a party named 'P16'
14:13:07 <kjetilk> Zakim, ??P16 is me
14:13:07 <Zakim> +kjetilk; got it
14:14:08 <wing> martind: should it include a use case?
14:15:19 <wing> susie: look at FAQ, list of existing use cases for ideas
14:16:19 <wing> dewinger: something that is fluffy and looks nice?
14:16:42 <wing> orri: how about a slogan?
14:17:02 <martind> +1
14:17:04 <wing> orri: along the lines of integrating content, making new things possible
14:18:32 <Zakim> -kjetilk
14:19:32 <kjetilk> sorry, skype doesn't want my money... :-(
14:19:40 <wing> ACTION: dewinger to put together a first draft of the flyer
14:20:00 <PaulaP> I'm on vacation between 22.03- 05.04.2007
14:20:29 <Susie> q?
14:20:48 <LeeF> ack martind
14:21:14 <wing> topic: SWEO logo
14:21:42 <bengee> http://bnode.org/media/2007/03/13/sweo_logo_scribblings_2007_03_13.gif
14:22:09 <bengee> http://bnode.org/media/2007/03/10/sweo_logo_scribblings_2007_03_10.gif
14:24:01 <wing> q+
14:24:33 <LeeF> ack wing
14:26:25 <kjetilk> please let me know when the community projects are on the agenda, and I will attempt to call using a regular phone
14:29:14 <PaulaP> +1 to have a logo
14:29:28 <wing> bengee: will try to create a few more variations, welcome feedback
14:30:14 <Susie> Kjetil, could you dial in at 10.40am ET
14:30:36 <wing> topic: Use case updates
14:31:00 <wing> susie: draft of oracle and siderean written, approved by oracle pr, waiting for approval from siderean
14:31:13 <wing> susie: ordnance survey use case received
14:31:17 <bengee> ACTION: bengee to create some additional logo variations for further discussion
14:31:24 <wing> thanks, bengee
14:32:20 <bengee> :)
14:32:39 <kjetilk> Susie: ok
14:32:47 <wing> susie: several deadlines for submission these few days
14:33:18 <wing> susie: discussing use case format with karen (and ivan)
14:33:33 <wing> topic: survey
14:33:52 <LeeF> wing: Met with Karen and looked at survey data once more (esp. textual responses)
14:34:38 <LeeF> ... "describe the semantic web to your manager" - in retrospect the question was confusing because some people have technical managers
14:34:38 <wing> Describe SW to your manager. 
14:34:38 <wing>      29         web-based 
14:34:38 <wing>      17         reasoning 
14:34:38 <wing>      16         meaningful data 
14:34:38 <wing>      14         data representation 
14:34:39 <wing>      14         data integration 
14:34:41 <wing>      13         machine understanding 
14:34:43 <wing>       9         standards 
14:34:45 <wing>       9         dataweb 
14:34:47 <wing>       8         automatic processing 
14:34:49 <wing>       7         search 
14:34:51 <wing>       5         data exchange 
14:34:53 <wing>       4         emerging 
14:34:55 <wing>       3         reduce ambiguity 
14:34:57 <wing>       2         self describing data 
14:34:59 <wing>       2         ontology driven 
14:35:01 <wing>       2         km 
14:35:03 <wing>       2         deals with data overload 
14:35:05 <wing>       2         enhanceddecisionsupport 
14:35:07 <wing>       1         xml 
14:35:09 <wing>       1         taxonomy 
14:35:11 <wing>       1         tagging 
14:35:13 <wing>       1         structured data 
14:35:15 <wing>       1         efficient 
14:35:28 <LeeF> wing: many people see the Semantic Web as an extension of the current Web and something that has to be built on top of existing Web pages
14:35:45 <LeeF> ... also many people look towards reasoning and agents as key to SW
14:35:58 <LeeF> ... also interesting was the disadvantages
14:35:59 <wing> Disadvantages 
14:35:59 <wing>       9         no employees with skills 
14:35:59 <wing>       7         no industrial strength offerings 
14:35:59 <wing>       7         immaturity 
14:35:59 <wing>       6         complicated 
14:36:00 <wing>       5         slow adoption 
14:36:02 <wing>       4         large upfront investment 
14:36:04 <wing>       3         too academic 
14:36:06 <wing>       3         not tangible 
14:36:08 <wing>       2         poor performance 
14:36:10 <wing>       2         no critical mass 
14:36:12 <wing>       1         standards too broad 
14:36:14 <wing>       1         security 
14:36:16 <wing>       1         owl overhyped 
14:36:18 <wing>       1         ontologies hard to build 
14:36:20 <wing>       1         no standards 
14:36:23 <wing>       1         none 
14:36:24 <wing>       1         no killer app 
14:36:26 <wing>       1         no funding 
14:36:28 <wing>       1         need t combine business and it 
14:39:13 <Zakim> +??P3
14:39:22 <kjetilk> Zakim, ??P3 is me
14:39:22 <Zakim> +kjetilk; got it
14:45:04 <PaulaP> bye
14:45:06 <Zakim> -kjetilk
14:45:08 <Zakim> -Orri_Erling
14:45:11 <Zakim> -Susie
14:45:12 <kjetilk> bye!
14:45:15 <Zakim> -bengee
14:45:19 <Zakim> -wing
14:45:23 <Zakim> -kidehen_
14:45:27 <Zakim> -martind
14:45:29 <Zakim> -dunja
14:45:31 <Zakim> -PaulaP
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14:46:44 <LeeF> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:46:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/14-SWEO-minutes.html LeeF
14:46:49 <LeeF> rrsagent, make logs world-access
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14:49:29 <pasquale> hi all, bye
14:49:31 <leobard> hi
14:50:12 <pasquale> hi leo, its over ;-(
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14:59:45 <leobard> whoops, I didn't get that line in the e-mail
14:59:47 <leobard> fuck
15:00:00 <leobard> sorry, I'll write an e-mail to the group
15:01:42 <Zakim> -LeeF
15:01:42 <Zakim> SW_SWEO()10:00AM has ended
15:01:43 <Zakim> Attendees were Susie, Orri_Erling, LeeF, PaulaP, wing, bengee, kidehen_, +049895480aaaa, dunja, martind, kjetilk
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