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15:46:20 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, bookmark
15:46:20 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2007/02/27-swd-irc#T15-46-20
15:46:39 <mhausenblas> zakim, this will be swd
15:46:39 <Zakim> ok, mhausenblas; I see SW_SWD()11:00AM scheduled to start in 14 minutes
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15:52:21 <mhausenblas> Meeting: W3C Semantic Web Deployment Working Group - Telecon  2007-02-27, 16:00 UTC 
15:52:28 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Feb/0173.html
15:52:36 <mhausenblas> Previous: 2007-02-20 http://www.w3.org/2007/02/20-swd-minutes.html
15:52:52 <mhausenblas> Chair: Tom Baker
15:53:05 <mhausenblas> Scribe: Michael Hausenblas
15:53:07 <mhausenblas> ScribeNick: mhausenblas
15:53:33 <mhausenblas> Present: Guus Schreiber, Diego Berrueta, Ralph Swick, Simone Onofri, Michael Hausenblas
15:53:49 <Simone> Zakim, passcode please?
15:53:49 <Zakim> the conference code is 79394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Simone
15:54:03 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes 
15:54:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/02/27-swd-minutes.html mhausenblas
15:54:20 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, make logs public
15:54:29 <Zakim> SW_SWD()11:00AM has now started
15:54:36 <Zakim> +??P1
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15:54:48 <mhausenblas> present+ Tom Baker
15:55:07 <Zakim> +Ralph
15:55:17 <RalphS> zakim, ??p1 is TomB
15:55:17 <Zakim> +TomB; got it
15:55:42 <Zakim> +Michael_Hausenblas
15:56:09 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:56:14 <Simone> Zakim, Simone is IPcaller
15:56:14 <Zakim> sorry, Simone, I do not recognize a party named 'Simone'
15:56:24 <Simone> Zakim, IPcaller is Simone
15:56:24 <Zakim> +Simone; got it
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15:59:02 <Zakim> -TomB
15:59:02 <mhausenblas> present+ Jon Phipps 
15:59:55 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Sean Bechhofer
16:00:39 <Zakim> +Antoine
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16:00:56 <Zakim> +Tom_Baker
16:01:04 <Zakim> +JonP
16:01:05 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Antoine_Isaac
16:01:17 <RalphS> zakim, antoine is really Guus
16:01:17 <Zakim> +Guus; got it
16:01:21 <Zakim> +??P25
16:01:27 <mhausenblas> zakim, who's on the call?
16:01:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ralph, Michael_Hausenblas, Simone, Guus, Tom_Baker, JonP, ??P25
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16:01:53 <mhausenblas> present+ Daniel_Rubin 
16:02:03 <RalphS> zakim, ??p25 is DLRubin
16:02:03 <Zakim> +DLRubin; got it
16:02:30 <mhausenblas> Topic: 1. ADMIN (10 min)
16:02:33 <guus> guus has joined #swd
16:02:39 <mhausenblas> Tom has proposed new scribe assignments http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/ScribeDuty
16:02:50 <guus> zakim, who is here?
16:02:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ralph, Michael_Hausenblas, Simone, Guus, Tom_Baker, JonP, DLRubin
16:02:52 <Zakim> On IRC I see guus, dlrubin, berrueta, JonP, TomB, Zakim, RRSAgent, RalphS, mhausenblas, Simone
16:03:21 <mhausenblas> Tom: Simone ok with scribing?
16:03:44 <Zakim> +??P32
16:04:01 <mhausenblas> ... some pointer to the resources to follow
16:04:15 <RalphS> zakim, ??p32 is Alistair
16:04:16 <Zakim> +Alistair; got it
16:04:27 <mhausenblas> present+ Alistair Miles 
16:05:06 <Zakim> +Ben_Adida
16:05:11 <mhausenblas> Tom: So start as a backup
16:05:23 <mhausenblas> present+ Ben_Adida
16:05:31 <mhausenblas> PROPOSED to accept http://www.w3.org/2007/02/20-swd-minutes.html
16:05:37 <mhausenblas> RESOLUTION: minutes accepted
16:05:51 <Zakim> + +43.512.507.aaaa
16:05:55 <mhausenblas> Tom: WG process
16:06:27 <mhausenblas> present+ Jan_Henke 
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16:06:44 <RalphS> zakim, aaaa is Jan
16:06:44 <Zakim> +Jan; got it
16:06:44 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Ralph write a proposal for bringing http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/IssuesProcess and Tracker into alignment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/20-swd-minutes.html#action15] 
16:07:01 <mhausenblas> --done
16:07:20 <RalphS> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Feb/0201.html action: proposal for aligning IssuesProcess and Tracker
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16:07:43 <guus> q+
16:08:12 <mhausenblas> Ralph: For now Tracker is usable
16:08:27 <mhausenblas> ... people are invited to look at it
16:08:43 <mhausenblas> Tom: Continue discussion on the list
16:09:03 <mhausenblas>  Spring face-to-face meeting
16:09:11 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Tom propose some dates for next face-to-face, looking at June [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/20-swd-minutes.html#action22] 
16:09:18 <mhausenblas> --done
16:09:25 <RalphS> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Feb/0203.html Meeting in June? [Tom]
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16:10:48 <mhausenblas> Tom: Early June to check for everyone
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16:11:20 <mhausenblas> Topic: 2. SKOS - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#SKOS
16:11:23 <JonP> q+
16:11:24 <Zakim> +Bernard_Horan
16:11:27 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Antoine to check with Veronique on terms being outside the ISO 2788 standard [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action07]
16:11:30 <mhausenblas> --done
16:11:41 <mhausenblas> present+ Bernard_Horan
16:11:48 <RalphS> (indeed, filling in only my name and leaving nothing checked in the date poll seems to mean "none of these")
16:11:49 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Guus to capture the issue on capturing relationships between labels [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action04]
16:11:50 <mhausenblas> --done
16:12:06 <Zakim> +Elisa_Kendall
16:12:15 <guus> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Feb/0181.html
16:12:16 <mhausenblas> present+ Elisa_Kendall 
16:13:06 <aliman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Feb/0169.html email completing antoine's action re contacting Veronique
16:14:04 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Alan to write down the general documentation requirements, in particular to those that are related to literal values, and how to represent that in skos [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action09]
16:14:08 <mhausenblas> --continues
16:14:13 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Alan to write up the preferredLabel modelling issue [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action01]
16:14:16 <mhausenblas> --continues
16:14:23 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Alistair to rephrase the old issue of skos/owl-dl coexistence and semantics [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action08] - see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Feb/0145
16:14:25 <mhausenblas> --done
16:14:32 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Guus to propose a resolution to relationships between labels by next week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/20-swd-minutes.html#action11]
16:14:34 <mhausenblas> --done
16:14:56 <aliman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Feb/0181.html Guus' resolution
16:15:00 <mhausenblas> Topic: 3. RECIPES - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#Recipes
16:15:37 <Zakim> +nacho_marin
16:15:42 <berrueta> zakim, nacho_marin is me
16:15:42 <Zakim> +berrueta; got it
16:16:03 <mhausenblas> zakim, who is speaking?
16:16:13 <Zakim> mhausenblas, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Michael_Hausenblas (14%), Simone (5%), Guus (44%), Alistair (31%)
16:16:53 <mhausenblas> Guus: Discussion on SKOS  - Alistair ?
16:17:57 <mhausenblas> Jon: Expressing labels in different lang
16:18:11 <mhausenblas> Guus: xml:lang
16:18:55 <mhausenblas> ... expecting translation of term will differ
16:19:36 <mhausenblas> Guus: Continue on the list and proposed resolution next week
16:20:05 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Guus to propose resolution to SKOS issues by next week
16:20:36 <guus> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Feb/0195.html
16:20:57 <mhausenblas> Guus: This is my current state of the proposal
16:21:30 <mhausenblas> ... example - acronym
16:22:05 <mhausenblas> ... concepts have props that point to literals
16:22:26 <mhausenblas> ... if one wants to establish relations between them
16:22:34 <mhausenblas> ... there will be problems
16:22:56 <mhausenblas> ... two options: make them classes
16:23:18 <Bern> Bern has joined #swd
16:23:24 <mhausenblas> ... other: assign XXX to it
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16:25:20 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to Recipe issue 1.3 [recorded in ">http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]
16:25:23 <mhausenblas> --continues
16:25:31 <mhausenblas> Topic: 4. VOCABULARY MANAGEMENT - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#VocabularyMgt
16:25:41 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Elisa to summarize state of Vocabulary Management draft, add comments, and coordinate work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action06]
16:25:43 <mhausenblas> --continues
16:25:50 <Zakim> +Guus.a
16:25:52 <mhausenblas> Elisa: Some progress
16:26:44 <mhausenblas> Guus: Sigi Handschuh from DERI Galway promised to sign up
16:28:04 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Elisa to contact S. Handschuh 
16:28:15 <mhausenblas> Topic: 5. SEMANTIC INTEGRATION - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#SemanticIntegration
16:28:40 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Elisa to contact Daniel for participating in Semantic Integration note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/13-swd-minutes.html#action18]
16:28:44 <mhausenblas> --continues
16:29:13 <mhausenblas> Elisa: Some support from Chris XXX, might join as invited expert
16:29:35 <mhausenblas> ... from earlier SWBDG
16:30:13 <RalphS> q+ to give Daniel the connection to Stanford if Elisa doesn't get there
16:30:33 <mhausenblas> ... interested in Semantic Integration note
16:30:57 <Simone> Zakim, mute me please
16:30:57 <Zakim> Simone should now be muted
16:31:37 <TomB> q?
16:32:26 <mhausenblas> ... Natasha JJJ might rejoin?
16:32:59 <RalphS> s/JJJ/Noy
16:34:14 <mhausenblas> ack R
16:34:14 <Zakim> RalphS, you wanted to give Daniel the connection to Stanford if Elisa doesn't get there
16:35:07 <mhausenblas> Ralph: Discuss representation issues with Deb
16:35:26 <mhausenblas> ... does it make sense to join for just one task?
16:35:57 <mhausenblas> Tom: Propose to take F2F at AOB
16:36:03 <mhausenblas> Topic: 6. RDFa - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#RDFa
16:36:06 <RalphS> agenda+ f2f location
16:36:26 <aliman> michael: not only overview but also response to discussionon list ...
16:36:53 <aliman> what we call umbrella specification, points to all relevant docs, gives some background, relevant terminology ...
16:37:26 <aliman> didn't yet discuss how to treat the doc, basically same as OWL - one doc as starter to other specs, apreciate feedback esp. on terminology used.
16:37:37 <aliman> ... first draft.
16:38:07 <aliman> ben: should get feedback from WG, subgroup working on RDFa hasn't looked at this yet, might get more feedback in next couple of weeks, think this is a good thing.
16:38:27 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Guus to flag the issue of RDFa REC track on the coordination group [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action03]
16:38:29 <mhausenblas> --done
16:38:39 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes 
16:38:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/02/27-swd-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:38:51 <RalphS> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-semweb-cg/2007Feb/0057.html Guus' message to SWCG
16:38:56 <JonP> q+ question for Ralph about the Tracker
16:39:07 <RalphS> agenda+ Tracker questions
16:39:10 <mhausenblas> Ben: Short update for status
16:39:33 <mhausenblas> ,,, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Feb/0204.html
16:40:01 <RalphS> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Feb/0204.html [RDFa] Response to Reviewer Comments on RDFa Primer [Ben]
16:40:03 <mhausenblas> ... XHTML 1.1 module is now nearly ready
16:40:25 <mhausenblas> Topic: AOB
16:40:33 <RalphS> zakim, agenda?
16:40:33 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda:
16:40:34 <Zakim> 1. f2f location [from RalphS]
16:40:35 <Zakim> 2. Tracker questions [from RalphS]
16:40:49 <RalphS> take up agendum 2
16:41:03 <mhausenblas> Topic: AOB - Tracker questions
16:41:37 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Ralph to check if Tracker is in BigBrother mode
16:42:53 <RalphS> Jon: specifically, there's been email discussion referring to http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/26 that is not appearing in the Tracker Web interface
16:44:17 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Jon raise issue on Annotation on label  - 1.3.1
16:44:28 <RalphS> close this agendum
16:44:38 <RalphS> take up agendum 1
16:44:43 <mhausenblas> Topic: AOB - F2F in June
16:45:38 <mhausenblas> Elisa: Does the meeting date with ESWC 07 (http://www.eswc2007.org/)
16:46:11 <RalphS> [[
16:46:13 <RalphS> 4th European Semantic Web Conference site. ESWC 2007 will take place from 3-7th, June 2007 in the Tyrol region of Innsbruck, Austria.
16:46:14 <RalphS> ]]
16:46:42 <mhausenblas> Tom: Discuss via list. A'dam would be reachable as well
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16:47:41 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Guus to check if A'dam can be F2F venue
16:47:47 <Zakim> -Bernard_Horan
16:47:51 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes 
16:47:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/02/27-swd-minutes.html mhausenblas
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16:48:07 <Zakim> -Elisa_Kendall
16:48:08 <Zakim> -DLRubin
16:48:15 <Zakim> -Jan
16:48:17 <Zakim> -JonP
16:48:18 <Zakim> -Alistair
16:48:18 <mhausenblas> Tom: Elisa scribe next week, ok
16:48:19 <Zakim> -berrueta
16:48:21 <Zakim> -Ben_Adida
16:48:27 <Zakim> -Simone
16:48:31 <RalphS> zakim, list participants
16:48:31 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Ralph, TomB, Michael_Hausenblas, Simone, Tom_Baker, JonP, Guus, DLRubin, Alistair, Ben_Adida, +43.512.507.aaaa, Jan, Bernard_Horan,
16:48:35 <Zakim> ... Elisa_Kendall, berrueta, Antoine
16:48:45 <seanb> have you just finished?
16:48:50 <Zakim> -Tom_Baker
16:48:59 <mhausenblas> yes ;)
16:49:06 <Zakim> -Antoine
16:49:09 <Zakim> -Ralph
16:49:12 <Zakim> -Michael_Hausenblas
16:49:12 <seanb> oh well. Hopefully I'll be here next week!
16:49:23 <mhausenblas> hear you then, bye ...
16:49:37 <RalphS> (we know you mean well, Sean :)
16:49:39 <Simone> bye
16:49:40 <benadida> benadida has left #swd
16:50:40 <RalphS> zakim, drop guus
16:50:40 <Zakim> Guus is being disconnected
16:50:42 <Zakim> SW_SWD()11:00AM has ended
16:50:43 <Zakim> Attendees were Ralph, TomB, Michael_Hausenblas, Simone, Tom_Baker, JonP, Guus, DLRubin, Alistair, Ben_Adida, +43.512.507.aaaa, Jan, Bernard_Horan, Elisa_Kendall, berrueta, Antoine
16:50:52 <mhausenblas> simone, still here?