16:04:40 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #hcls
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16:04:53 <Helen> Helen has joined #hcls
16:04:59 <vipul> rrsagent, make logs world-visible
16:05:01 <Tonya> hi Helen!
16:05:10 <Zakim> +[MIT-G346]
16:05:13 <Helen> Hi, Tonya
16:05:29 <vipul> Zakim, who's on the call?
16:05:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P22, Don_Doherty, Tanya_Hongsermeier, [IPcaller], Joanne_Luciano, Olivier_Bodenreider, +1.301.975.aaaa, [MIT-G346]
16:06:06 <samwaldmatthias> No thats me.
16:06:14 <samwaldmatthias> I'm IPcaller
16:06:23 <jar> jar has joined #hcls
16:06:29 <vipul> Zakim, [IPcaller] is Matthias
16:06:34 <Zakim> +Matthias; got it
16:06:57 <vipul> Zakim, [MIT-G346] is Alan_and_Jonathan
16:06:57 <Zakim> +Alan_and_Jonathan; got it
16:07:31 <vipul> Zakim, +1301.975.aaa is TM
16:07:31 <Zakim> sorry, vipul, I do not recognize a party named '+1301.975.aaa'
16:07:40 <BillBug> BillBug has joined #hcls
16:07:51 <vipul> Zakim, +1.301.975.aaaa' is TM
16:07:51 <Zakim> sorry, vipul, I do not recognize a party named '+1.301.975.aaaa''
16:07:52 <Susie> zakim, ??P22 is susie
16:07:53 <Zakim> +susie; got it
16:08:03 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:08:13 <Zakim> +Bill_Bug
16:08:30 <Helen> Zakim, [IPcaller] is Helen
16:08:30 <Zakim> +Helen; got it
16:09:06 <vipul> Zakim, pick a scribe
16:09:06 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Alan_and_Jonathan
16:10:33 <vipul> Thanks to Bill for scribing!!
16:10:50 <BillBug> TH: review last week's action items
16:11:22 <BillBug> TH: EricN not here to report on DetailedClinicalModel + CDSIC - tabled
16:11:34 <jluciano2> ACTION: correct the HCLS (google?) published calender - it's off by a week
16:11:53 <BillBug> AlanR,Gwen, June, Bill: AlanR - reviewed with all
16:12:14 <jluciano2> I don'' know who can do the  above action
16:12:36 <BillBug> AR: June & Gwen - wanted to have differential display to compare molecular pathology over time
16:13:10 <ivan> ivan has joined #hcls
16:13:37 <BillBug> AR: tough - looking at DTI & MRI atlases - looking at GENSAT and ABA
16:13:54 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-home
16:13:54 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
16:13:56 <Zakim> +Ivan
16:14:26 <vipul> BB: The goal is to design demo that amis to provide differential domain
16:14:32 <samwaldmatthias> Ivan, I think you are causing echo.
16:14:38 <vipul> BB: Images should be registered
16:14:51 <ivan> zakim, mute me
16:14:51 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted
16:14:52 <vipul> BB: No programmable hooks t
16:15:07 <vipul> BB: For access of aligned images
16:15:16 <samwaldmatthias> No, it is gone now.
16:15:33 <vipul> BB: Do a visualization of what is being done in the demo
16:15:33 <vipul> BB: Do a visualization of what is being done in the demo
16:15:42 <vipul> BB: Can't easily search on brain region
16:16:02 <vipul> BB: Classification is done ad-hoc, but not using a standard shared vocabulary
16:16:18 <vipul> BB: Need to get to details of histological observations
16:16:38 <vipul> BB: Descriptions done in an ad-hoc. sometime detailed with agreement somethimes no agreement
16:17:03 <vipul> BB: BIRN Tools support alignment and differential comparison
16:17:17 <vipul> BB: However not mature enough to use in the demo
16:17:22 <vipul> BB: Data in the CCDB
16:18:09 <vipul> BB: Difficult to get mouse data as do not know where it is
16:19:07 <vipul> BB: Difficult to do what is being targeted in the time frame for WWW
16:20:40 <BillBug> AR: if APIs and open data repositories exist - we can do the required programming
16:21:05 <BillBug> AR: what is the data we want?  Still trying to figure out
16:21:58 <BillBug> AR: looking at relevant antibodies - trying to accumulate appropriate ones
16:22:29 <BillBug> AR: looking for relevant expression images in ABA & GENSAT
16:25:34 <samwaldmatthias> http://www.zoomify.com/
16:27:27 <jluciano2> q+
16:28:48 <ivan> q+
16:29:21 <ivan> ack jluciano
16:30:21 <ivan> ack ivan
16:30:22 <Tonya> ack
16:30:27 <Tonya> ack ivan
16:31:02 <Tonya> bill you are echoing
16:31:13 <samwaldmatthias> No, it's Ivan.
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16:32:56 <ivan> zakim, mute me
16:32:56 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted
16:35:13 <vipul> q+
16:35:35 <BillBug> AR: Images showing appropriate display of relevant genes
16:36:00 <BillBug> TH: Are AlanR & Joanne working on time table?
16:36:22 <BillBug> AR: not looking at time-table - investigating options & scope
16:36:42 <BillBug> JL: For time-table, we need to be clear about scope
16:36:44 <Don> Is the abstract due in 3 weeks like for everyone else?
16:36:54 <Susie> q
16:37:06 <Tonya> ack Vipul
16:37:29 <BillBug> AR: can we get a time-line for those fixed time points - deadlines - RDF-mining tasks?
16:37:36 <jluciano2> i have received teh action items from Vipul
16:37:49 <BillBug> VK: AlanR, June, Gwen work up demo script
16:38:26 <BillBug> VK: June was going to create plan - was ill this week (just commited to this this Tues)
16:38:48 <jluciano2> May 8 this the date of WWW demo
16:39:06 <BillBug> SS: In BioRDF - looking at WWW2007 (May 8) and ISMB (mid-July) are fixed dates
16:39:21 <BillBug> JL: May 8 is first drop-dead date for demo
16:39:24 <ivan> we do not know the *exact* date yet
16:39:31 <ivan> for the W3C Track that is
16:39:39 <jluciano2> Submission deadline March 1
16:39:41 <ivan> The track goes along the whole conference
16:39:45 <BillBug> VK: WWW2007 - HCLS workshop deadline March 1
16:40:05 <BillBug> SS: ISMB demo proposal is mid-May?
16:40:11 <ivan> zakim, unmute me
16:40:11 <Zakim> Ivan should no longer be muted
16:40:11 <jluciano2> March is for the HCLS-DI
16:41:19 <BillBug> Ivan: For demo - need mini-abstract by approx. mid-March
16:41:19 <jluciano2> Date for Ivan - mini abstract due mid March
16:41:49 <BillBug> VK: would someone take WWW2007 demo abstract as an Action item
16:41:58 <ivan> zakim, mute me
16:41:58 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted
16:42:19 <BillBug> Ivan: abstract submitter gets free registration (expensive conference)
16:42:34 <BillBug> AR: Doing script
16:42:42 <BillBug> VK: voluteers to rough abstract
16:42:56 <ivan> presentors *may* get a free registration (I am trying to get one, that is...)
16:42:57 <BillBug> SS: Wait for demo spec'd out - VK & SS will work this out together
16:43:26 <jluciano2> Here are the actions from Vipul:
16:43:30 <BillBug> Sorry - correction re: *free* registration - see Ivan's note
16:43:38 <jluciano2>     ACTION: Populate Brain Pharm with PD Use Case Data [1]
16:43:49 <jluciano2>   ACTION: Don will send research statements to SWAN Team [2]
16:44:01 <jluciano2> ACTION: To create the information flow diagram - Susie, Vipul owners [3]
16:44:12 <BillBug> TH: JR, AR, MS - exploratory description of URI resolution mechanism (AR - JR did most of it)
16:44:12 <jluciano2> ACTION: Alan R to do the demo script and look at BIll Bug's pointers [4]
16:44:24 <BillBug> JR: still a draft - needs a lot more input
16:44:25 <jluciano2> ACTION: Get the RDF dumps from BrainPharm and SWAN - Kei and Tim
16:44:34 <ivan> zakim, who is there?
16:44:34 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, ivan.
16:44:37 <jluciano2>     ACTION: Use the RDF dumps to analyze references for Knowledge Artifacts - BIONT
16:44:46 <jluciano2>   ACTION: Familiar with using one RDF Time --- ALL
16:44:47 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
16:44:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see susie, Don_Doherty, Tanya_Hongsermeier, Matthias, Joanne_Luciano, Olivier_Bodenreider, +1.301.975.aaaa, Alan_and_Jonathan, Helen, Bill_Bug, Ivan (muted)
16:44:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see alanr, ivan, BillBug, jar, Helen, RRSAgent, Zakim, jluciano2, vipul, Susie, Don, Tonya, samwaldmatthias
16:45:44 <BillBug> JR: Good feedback on list - hoping for more
16:45:46 <BillBug> JR: concern - when you build an app - not all URIs will resolve
16:45:47 <BillBug> JR: need more feedback - feel a bit in vacuum - need more app-specific feedback
16:46:20 <BillBug> JR: To here proposed mechanisms won't work for them - that's helpful too
16:46:22 <BillBug> JR: Open ended problem now - could work for years on it - guidance is welcome
16:46:47 <BillBug> TH: anyone on call able to help - give feedback - or should we table it for now?
16:47:33 <BillBug> JL: Maybe many of us are as far as JR on this issue in terms of what we are currently implementing
16:47:35 <BillBug> TH: revisit this next week
16:48:34 <BillBug> TH: See many health care KM systems at similar point to what JL described - not ready yet for URI-dependent decision support
16:48:47 <BillBug> TH: other teams? Helen? ACCP update?
16:49:04 <BillBug> HC: refining notes - ported to Wiki using templates
16:49:53 <BillBug> HC: investigating some of the comparisons of DL vs. Rule logic - especially dealing with exclusing/inclusion criteria when representing clinical guidelines
16:50:35 <vipul> +1
16:51:10 <vipul> +1 to calls focusing on Demo
16:51:41 <BillBug> SS: Holding joint BioRDF-BioONT calls - to focus the contributions of each group to the Use Case - watching the narrowwing of the use case
16:51:43 <BillBug> SS: Accelerate calls (not every other week) if we need to really get substantive work on demo done in time - weekly BioRDF calls?
16:51:44 <BillBug> SS: no disagree = accent - will be weekly now
16:52:52 <ivan> action should be on EricP
16:53:01 <BillBug> JL: Update published calendar listing all the HCLS subgroups
16:53:02 <BillBug> ACTION: Ivan or EricP update public calendar to reflect new schedule
16:54:01 <BillBug> VK: BioONT - hunting down relevant distilled knowledge sources (CVs, taxonomies, classifications, ontologies) - glue for BioRDF data sets
16:54:24 <jar> bye
16:54:26 <Zakim> -Bill_Bug
16:54:27 <Zakim> -susie
16:54:29 <Zakim> - +1.301.975.aaaa
16:54:29 <Zakim> -Tanya_Hongsermeier
16:54:30 <Zakim> -Alan_and_Jonathan
16:54:31 <Zakim> -Joanne_Luciano
16:54:31 <Zakim> -Helen
16:54:33 <Zakim> -Olivier_Bodenreider
16:54:36 <BillBug> TH: look forward to update on URI-resolution doc - try to provide more helpful feedback to Jonathan
16:54:42 <Zakim> -Don_Doherty
16:54:44 <ivan> rrsagent, set log public
16:54:50 <Zakim> -Matthias
16:54:53 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:54:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/02/08-hcls-minutes.html ivan
16:54:59 <ivan> rrsagent, bye
16:54:59 <RRSAgent> I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/08-hcls-actions.rdf :
16:54:59 <RRSAgent> ACTION: correct the HCLS (google?) published calender - it's off by a week [1]
16:54:59 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/08-hcls-irc#T16-11-34
16:54:59 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Populate Brain Pharm with PD Use Case Data [1] [2]
16:54:59 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/08-hcls-irc#T16-43-38
16:54:59 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Don will send research statements to SWAN Team [2] [3]
16:54:59 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/08-hcls-irc#T16-43-49
16:54:59 <RRSAgent> ACTION: To create the information flow diagram - Susie, Vipul owners [3] [4]
16:54:59 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/08-hcls-irc#T16-44-01
16:54:59 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Alan R to do the demo script and look at BIll Bug's pointers [4] [5]
16:54:59 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/08-hcls-irc#T16-44-12-1
16:54:59 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Get the RDF dumps from BrainPharm and SWAN - Kei and Tim [6]
16:54:59 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/08-hcls-irc#T16-44-25
16:54:59 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Use the RDF dumps to analyze references for Knowledge Artifacts - BIONT [7]
16:54:59 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/08-hcls-irc#T16-44-37
16:54:59 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Familiar with using one RDF Time --- ALL [8]
16:54:59 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/08-hcls-irc#T16-44-46
16:54:59 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ivan or EricP update public calendar to reflect new schedule [9]
16:54:59 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/08-hcls-irc#T16-53-02
16:55:02 <Zakim> -Ivan
16:55:03 <Zakim> SW_HCLS()11:00AM has ended
16:55:05 <Zakim> Attendees were Don_Doherty, Tanya_Hongsermeier, Joanne_Luciano, Olivier_Bodenreider, +1.301.975.aaaa, Matthias, Alan_and_Jonathan, susie, Bill_Bug, Helen, Ivan