17:35:21 RRSAgent has joined #tagmem 17:35:21 logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-tagmem-irc 17:35:23 Minutes: Raman 17:36:11 Minutes of last teleconf linked from agenda. 17:36:34 (I have a ride to the airport leaving at T+50min, where T is the start of this call. so partial regrets.) 17:36:37 vq; minutes approved 17:38:24 Teleconf Scheduling: 17:39:06 SW: Possible two open slots Monday 17::00 or Thursday 18:00 for 90 minutes 17:39:59 DC prefers Thu SW prefers Mon 17:40:43 Call proposed Monday 17:41:03 +0 17:42:31 +1 17:44:03 Next meeting: Monday Feb 5. 17:44:11 Regular meetings Monday 17:00 UTC 17:44:38 ACTION: VQ to set up bridge through Amy 17:45:24 Next week scribe: DOrchard 17:46:09 VQ: suggest defering discussion on "passwords in the clear" with Ed missing 17:47:03 HST will miss the first 45 minutes next week, one-time conflicting appointment 17:48:01 HT: Cambridge F2F: tookin action to write on XML Functions 17:48:29 Conclusion of the discussion "elaborated infoset" 17:48:41 email sent to www-tag by hst summarizing above 17:48:55 Consequences: Norm TimBL on the hook to review above 17:49:19 http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/elabInfoset.html 17:49:39 (FYI, the GRDDL WG is still actively discussing this case. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/testlist3#xinclude ) 17:50:57 (yup, there are actions on TBL and NW under http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#xmlFunctions-34 ) 17:52:15 q+ to point out the 9 Feb SNOFHYP deadline 17:52:34 XML2 discussion is at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2007Jan/0042.html 17:52:48 s/XML2 discussion/XBL2 discussion/ ? 17:53:28 ack danc 17:53:28 DanC, you wanted to point out the 9 Feb SNOFHYP deadline 17:53:41 s/XML2/XBL2/ 17:54:23 9 Feb deadline is re http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-xbl-20070117/ 17:54:29 tvr: consider equilateral triangle xul dom tree of widgets CSS style JS handlers/behavior -- XBL is the centroid of this triangle that holds it together 17:56:28 q+ 17:56:54 ack timbl 17:58:24 -Stuart 17:58:41 TimBL -- there is some unfortunate history in the way semantics is used 18:00:07 All the HTML spec says is "The _p_ element represents a paragraph" 18:01:41 The word 'semantic' was used by the SGML community to mean 'a top level heading' rather than '24 point centered bold'. 18:03:30 Macros? 18:03:35 I believe its been used to bind svg-based widgets to XForms 18:03:38 In general, "An SGML application" was defined as the combination of a syntax (expressed via a DTD) and a semantics (defined in prose) 18:04:53 tvr: functionaly xbl could be thought of as bringing to xml the expressiveness offered by latex macros 18:05:34 Maybe we should just give each browser an implementation of XISP. -- XMLized LISP. :) 18:05:56 ... The semantics would be expressed in terms appropriate to the domain, so, for documents, "top-level heading" might be appropriate, and for personnel records, "name", "department", "salary" etc. 18:06:24 The interesting this yes, is if the javascript is progressively thrown awayas the macros become standard and also have higher-level semantics 18:09:59 (hmm... I wonder if the XBL charter notes the relationship with XSLT, or if the XSLT WG is noted as a dependency0 18:10:00 ) 18:10:24 HT: presently has nothing to propose on behalf of the TAG with respect to XBL 2 18:11:12 -DanC 18:12:47 RRSAgent, make logs world-visible 18:12:56 RRSAgent, draft minutes 18:12:56 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-tagmem-minutes.html ht 18:13:33 -Vincent 18:14:37 -Raman 18:14:39 -TimBL 18:14:39 -Ht 18:14:42 -Rhys 18:14:44 TAG_Weekly()12:00PM has ended 18:14:45 Attendees were Raman, Vincent, Stuart, Ht, Rhys, DanC, TimBL 18:17:25 timbl has left #tagmem 18:20:09 raman has left #tagmem 20:09:21 Zakim has left #tagmem