20:30:16 RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag 20:30:16 logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-wai-wcag-irc 20:30:23 RRSAgent, do not start a new log 20:30:28 RRSAgent, make log world 20:30:45 zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG 20:30:45 ok, ben; I see WAI_WCAG()3:00PM scheduled to start 30 minutes ago 20:30:48 bengt has joined #wai-wcag 20:30:52 Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon 20:31:00 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007JanMar/0022.html 20:31:05 Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loretta_Guarino_Reid 20:31:10 ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly 20:31:50 Regrets: Cynthia_Shelly 20:32:07 agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates 20:32:13 agenda+ Team C survey for 04 January (last 3 questions) 20:32:18 agenda+ Action Item task force survey for 04 January 20:32:26 agenda+ Team C Survey for 18 January 20:32:31 agenda+ Editor's Survey for 18 January 20:32:47 zakim, ping me in 20 minutes 20:32:47 ok, ben 20:47:30 Regrets+ Roberto_Scano 20:52:48 ben, you asked to be pinged at this time 20:56:24 Gregg has joined #wai-wcag 20:57:58 David has joined #wai-wcag 20:58:17 rellero has joined #wai-wcag 20:58:20 WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started 20:58:27 +David_MacDonald 20:58:54 +Bruce_Bailey 20:58:57 -David_MacDonald 20:58:59 +David_MacDonald 20:59:47 +??P8 20:59:56 zakim, ??P8 is Ben_Caldwell 20:59:56 +Ben_Caldwell; got it 21:01:43 zakim, who is on the phone? 21:01:43 On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Ben_Caldwell 21:01:46 +Loretta_Guarino_Reid 21:02:01 +Gregg_Vanderheiden 21:02:43 Tim has joined #wai-wcag 21:03:01 +Becky_Gibson 21:03:07 +Don_Evans 21:03:34 +Cooper 21:03:35 +??P15 21:03:44 +??P17 21:03:45 +Tim_Boland 21:03:48 10 01zakim, ??P15 is Roberto_Ellero 21:03:49 Christophe_S has joined #wai-wcag 21:03:58 zakim, ??P15 is Roberto_Ellero 21:03:58 +Roberto_Ellero; got it 21:04:03 zakim, ??P17 is Bengt_Farre 21:04:03 +Bengt_Farre; got it 21:04:07 Zakim, mute Roberto_Ellero 21:04:07 Roberto_Ellero should now be muted 21:04:29 don has joined #wai-wcag 21:04:32 zakim, who is on the phone? 21:04:32 On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Ben_Caldwell, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Becky_Gibson, Don_Evans, Roberto_Ellero (muted), Cooper, Tim_Boland, 21:04:35 ... Bengt_Farre 21:04:40 +Andi_Snow_Weaver 21:04:47 becka11y has joined #wai-wcag 21:05:01 scribe: Tim 21:05:04 +Christophe_Strobbe 21:05:05 jslatin has joined #wai-wcag 21:05:06 Andi has joined #wai-wcag 21:05:55 +??P21 21:06:11 zakim, take up agendum 1 21:06:11 agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from ben] 21:06:15 +John_Slatin 21:06:22 Topic: Announcements, Questions, and Updates 21:07:20 +Alex_Li 21:07:25 sean has joined #wai-wcag 21:07:53 zakim, ??P21 may be Sean_Hayes 21:07:53 +Sean_Hayes?; got it 21:11:21 RESOLUTION: Accept 979, 1122, 1450, 1016 21:11:55 zakim, close this item 21:11:55 agendum 1 closed 21:11:56 I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 21:11:58 zakim, take up agendum 2 21:11:58 2. Team C survey for 04 January (last 3 questions) [from ben] 21:11:59 agendum 2. "Team C survey for 04 January (last 3 questions)" taken up [from ben] 21:12:11 Topic: Team C survey for 04 January 21:12:40 ..3rd and 4th questions 21:15:52 ACTION: Loretta re: question of when a technique is advisory vs. sufficient 21:17:10 ack John 21:19:37 here's the question we're working on - http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20060104-teamc/results#xerrav 21:20:53 +??P25 21:21:50 Sorcha has joined #wai-wcag 21:22:01 zakim, mute me 21:22:01 sorry, Sorcha, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you 21:22:51 RESOLUTION: Accept new level 2 SC to avoid errors as amended 21:24:00 RESOLUTION: Accept Issue 1450 as amended 21:24:55 Topic: Action Item task force survey for 04 January 21:24:56 +Katie_Haritos-Shea 21:25:17 zakim, close this item 21:25:17 agendum 2 closed 21:25:18 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 21:25:19 3. Action Item task force survey for 04 January [from ben] 21:25:24 zakim, take up agendum 3 21:25:24 agendum 3. "Action Item task force survey for 04 January" taken up [from ben] 21:26:57 zakim, who is on the phone? 21:26:57 On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Ben_Caldwell, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Becky_Gibson, Don_Evans, Roberto_Ellero (muted), Cooper, Tim_Boland, 21:27:00 ... Bengt_Farre, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Christophe_Strobbe, Sean_Hayes?, John_Slatin, Alex_Li, Sorcha_Moore.a (muted), Katie_Haritos-Shea 21:30:38 ACTION: John to look at "when people who test.." sentence 21:32:29 don has joined #wai-wcag 21:33:38 zakim, who is making noise? 21:33:49 ben, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Gregg_Vanderheiden (37%), Katie_Haritos-Shea (14%), Cooper (43%) 21:34:12 ack John 21:37:58 ack John 21:39:25 ACTION: Michael and Gregg to revisit "for each SC" paragraph 21:41:59 q+ 21:44:11 ack Loretta 21:50:02 rellero has left #wai-wcag 21:51:24 rellero has joined #wai-wcag 21:52:40 RESOLUTION: Accept Conformance Intro as amended plus two editorial action items 21:56:18 -Christophe_Strobbe 21:56:18 ack John 21:57:34 -Don_Evans 22:03:56 ack John 22:06:01 -Katie_Haritos-Shea 22:09:01 q+ 22:09:51 ack David 22:17:01 RESOLUTION: accept revised format for the conformance levels bullet; put it first; put statement of minimum second; put AeWT third 22:19:45 RESOLUTION: replace SC4.2.2 with new conformance criterion as amended 22:25:55 q+ to say, "isn't this handled in situations?" 22:26:03 q+ 22:27:09 ack ben 22:27:09 ben, you wanted to say, "isn't this handled in situations?" 22:27:41 http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=How_to_meet_CC-5 22:28:13 ack sean 22:34:27 RESOLUTION: accept the note to alternate versions conformance criterion as amended 22:35:53 +??P0 22:41:05 ack cynthia 22:45:40 RESOLUTION: Accept Understanding Levels of Conformance with editorial changes 22:55:37 -Roberto_Ellero 22:57:40 bruce has joined #wai-wcag 22:59:24 -Alex_Li 23:02:03 RESOLUTION: send back to committee with comments 23:03:27 zakim, close this item 23:03:27 I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, ben 23:03:32 RESOLUTION: accept Comments on Examples of Conformance Claims with editorial corrections 23:03:41 q? 23:03:48 ack ??P0 23:03:56 ack cyn 23:03:59 ack john 23:03:59 ACK C 23:04:01 ACK J 23:04:12 zakim, close this item 23:04:12 agendum 3 closed 23:04:13 I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 23:04:14 4. Team C Survey for 18 January [from ben] 23:09:07 -Tim_Boland 23:09:09 -Becky_Gibson 23:09:09 -Cynthia_Shelly 23:09:10 -Andi_Snow_Weaver 23:09:11 -Bengt_Farre 23:09:12 sean has left #wai-wcag 23:09:12 -Loretta_Guarino_Reid 23:09:13 -David_MacDonald 23:09:15 -John_Slatin 23:09:16 -Gregg_Vanderheiden 23:09:18 -Ben_Caldwell 23:09:18 -Cooper 23:09:20 -Sorcha_Moore.a 23:09:27 Sorcha has left #wai-wcag 23:09:27 bengt has left #wai-wcag 23:09:40 -Sean_Hayes? 23:11:11 Present: David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Ben_Caldwell, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Becky_Gibson, Don_Evans, Roberto_Ellero, Cooper, Tim_Boland, Bengt_Farre, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Christophe_Strobbe, Sean_Hayes, John_Slatin, Alex_Li, Sorcha_Moore, Katie_Haritos-Shea 23:12:49 ben has joined #wai-wcag 23:13:00 zakim, drop bruce 23:13:00 Bruce_Bailey is being disconnected 23:13:02 WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended 23:13:03 Attendees were David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Ben_Caldwell, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Becky_Gibson, Don_Evans, Cooper, Tim_Boland, Roberto_Ellero, Bengt_Farre, 23:13:05 ... Andi_Snow_Weaver, Christophe_Strobbe, John_Slatin, Alex_Li, Sean_Hayes?, Sorcha_Moore, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Cynthia_Shelly 23:13:09 zakim, bye 23:13:09 Zakim has left #wai-wcag 23:14:25 rrsagent, bye 23:14:25 I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-wai-wcag-actions.rdf : 23:14:25 ACTION: Loretta re: question of when a technique is advisory vs. sufficient [1] 23:14:25 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-wai-wcag-irc#T21-15-52 23:14:25 ACTION: John to look at "when people who test.." sentence [2] 23:14:25 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-wai-wcag-irc#T21-30-38 23:14:25 ACTION: Michael and Gregg to revisit "for each SC" paragraph [3] 23:14:25 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-wai-wcag-irc#T21-39-25