See also: IRC log
<scribe> Scribe: JR
JA is chairing - but is having IRC connection problems.
CL: BG is only coming
Monday
... AL at our group when we need him.
JA: We need to renew
charter
... Judy thinks we should be looking at doing a 2.0
CL: Will we be changing checkpoints?
JA: Some issues are pretty
big
... Checkpoints not normative, it's the provisions: 1's and 2's
under
CL: Restructuring hard with so few people.
JA: According to W3C policy it's
like starting over...new call for participation...new
requirements document
... Could also call for review of the existing document
... Hope that call for participation will get us more
people.
CL: Need to visit companies, orgs with vested interest.
JR: Makes sense for WAI to have guidelines evolving.
JA: Maybe could avoid somethings that WCAG group had a problem with.
CL: Makes sense to come up with
list of people to personally invite
... Want to go through all the AJAX stuff with AL and BG - need
this to be a separate list
JR, JA: Good idea
<scribe> ACTION: JR to Make a WCAG 2.0 list of UAAG issues. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/11-ua-minutes.html#action01]
<scribe> ACTION: JA to Send JR the doc JA has been working on. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/11-ua-minutes.html#action02]
PP: Very interested in the restructuring
CL: eg is screen reader user agent or something different
JA: Righ was thinking of trying to make this thing more modular
CL: Wrote HCI paper on this -
confusing to decide which info should be provided in browser vs
scr. reader
... eg. Javascript providing keystrokes
JA: Lots of things being dumped
on AT's - but what about people without the money etc
... OK so we need to address browser vs AT's
... Newest ATAG 2.0 - http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-ATAG20-20061207/
... Remember WCAG review...dividing line between browser and
content...
JR: Right - ATAG wants to use UAAG for some things
All: Discussion of Team roles in WAI...
J: THis is a situation across all of W3C
JA: PF plays a role too - looking at accessibility of W3 docs
All: Discussion of how 3 GL docs are same vs different
JA: What about a role discussion?
JR: ATAG has same problems.
All: More discussion about ATAG structure
Mon_AM_1: AJAX issues
CL: Last time the timelines were
unrealistic
... Had people come and go trying to write test suites.
JA: WCAG/UAAG can use almost identical test
CL: Though tests are somewhat diff in some cases
<scribe> ACTION: JA to Find WCAG-review comments. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/11-ua-minutes.html#action03]
Mon_AM_1- AJAX issues
Mon_AM_2-
Mon_PM_1- Look at ATAG 2.0
Mon_PM_2-
Tues_AM_1- Starting a requirements doc
Tues_AM_2- Charter review
Tues_PM_1-
Tues_PM_2-
<scribe> NEW
Mon_AM_1- AJAX issues
Mon_AM_2- AJAX issues
Mon_PM_1- Look at ATAG 2.0
Mon_PM_2- Structure/Role discussion
Tues_AM_1- Starting a requirements doc
Tues_AM_2- Charter review
Tues_PM_1- Requirements doc
Tues_PM_2- Who to invite, next steps, wrapup
<scribe> NEW
Mon_AM_1- Web2.0 issues
Mon_AM_2- Web2.0 issues
Mon_PM_1- Look at ATAG 2.0
Mon_PM_2- Structure/Role discussion
Tues_AM_1- Starting a requirements doc
Tues_AM_2- Charter review
Tues_PM_1- Requirements doc
Tues_PM_2- Who to invite, next steps, wrapup
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