19:01:31 RRSAgent has joined #ua 19:01:31 logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/01/11-ua-irc 19:01:40 Zakim, this will be UAWG 19:01:40 ok, JR, I see WAI_UAWG()2:00PM already started 19:01:52 Meeting: WAI UA 19:02:01 Scribe: JR 19:04:05 JA is chairing - but is having IRC connection problems. 19:04:47 +[IBM.a] 19:05:06 cklaws has joined #ua 19:05:43 Zakim, IBM.a is really cklaws 19:05:43 +cklaws; got it 19:06:01 Zakim, IBM is really parente 19:06:01 +parente; got it 19:06:50 CL: BG is only coming Monday 19:07:04 CL: AL at our group when we need him. 19:09:17 Topic: 1. Setting agenda for face to face meeting (Boston, Jan. 22 & 23) 19:09:26 JA: We need to renew charter 19:09:47 JA: Judy thinks we should be looking at doing a 2.0 19:10:04 CL: Will we be changing checkpoints? 19:10:13 JA: Some issues are pretty big 19:10:38 JA: Checkpoints not normative, it's the provisions: 1's and 2's under 19:11:26 CL: Restructuring hard with so few people. 19:12:02 JA: According to W3C policy it's like starting over...new call for participation...new requirements document 19:12:28 JA: Could also call for review of the existing document 19:14:38 JA: Hope that call for participation will get us more people. 19:15:16 CL: Need to visit companies, orgs with vested interest. 19:16:23 JR: Makes sense for WAI to have guidelines evolving. 19:16:58 JA: Maybe could avoid somethings that WCAG group had a problem with. 19:17:50 CL: Makes sense to come up with list of people to personally invite 19:19:56 CL: Want to go through all the AJAX stuff with AL and BG - need this to be a separate list 19:20:06 JR, JA: Good idea 19:20:36 action JR: Make a WCAG 2.0 list of UAAG issues. 19:20:57 action JA: Send JR the doc JA has been working on. 19:21:48 PP: Very interested in the restructuring 19:22:04 CL: eg is screen reader user agent or something different 19:22:33 JA: Righ was thinking of trying to make this thing more modular 19:23:33 CL: Wrote HCI paper on this - confusing to decide which info should be provided in browser vs scr. reader 19:24:14 CL: eg. Javascript providing keystrokes 19:25:20 JA: Lots of things being dumped on AT's - but what about people without the money etc 19:25:47 JA: OK so we need to address browser vs AT's 19:30:23 JA: Newest ATAG 2.0 - http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-ATAG20-20061207/ 19:30:59 JA: Remember WCAG review...dividing line between browser and content... 19:34:04 JR: Right - ATAG wants to use UAAG for some things 19:35:56 All: Discussion of Team roles in WAI... 19:36:10 J: THis is a situation across all of W3C 19:36:47 JA: PF plays a role too - looking at accessibility of W3 docs 19:39:55 All: Discussion of how 3 GL docs are same vs different 19:40:52 JA: What about a role discussion? 19:42:28 JR: ATAG has same problems. 19:48:49 All: More discussion about ATAG structure 19:48:59 Mon_AM_1: AJAX issues 19:52:26 CL: Last time the timelines were unrealistic 19:53:28 CL: Had people come and go trying to write test suites. 19:53:55 JA: WCAG/UAAG can use almost identical test 19:54:20 CL: Though tests are somewhat diff in some cases 19:55:07 Action JA: Find WCAG-review comments. 19:55:58 Mon_AM_1- AJAX issues 19:55:58 Mon_AM_2- 19:55:58 Mon_PM_1- Look at ATAG 2.0 19:55:58 Mon_PM_2- 19:55:58 Tues_AM_1- Starting a requirements doc 19:55:59 Tues_AM_2- Charter review 19:56:01 Tues_PM_1- 19:56:03 Tues_PM_2- 19:57:48 NEW 19:57:49 Mon_AM_1- AJAX issues 19:57:49 Mon_AM_2- AJAX issues 19:57:49 Mon_PM_1- Look at ATAG 2.0 19:57:49 Mon_PM_2- Structure/Role discussion 19:57:49 Tues_AM_1- Starting a requirements doc 19:57:51 Tues_AM_2- Charter review 19:57:53 Tues_PM_1- Requirements doc 19:57:55 Tues_PM_2- Who to invite, next steps, wrapup 19:59:08 NEW 19:59:08 Mon_AM_1- Web2.0 issues 19:59:08 Mon_AM_2- Web2.0 issues 19:59:08 Mon_PM_1- Look at ATAG 2.0 19:59:08 Mon_PM_2- Structure/Role discussion 19:59:09 Tues_AM_1- Starting a requirements doc 19:59:11 Tues_AM_2- Charter review 19:59:13 Tues_PM_1- Requirements doc 19:59:16 Tues_PM_2- Who to invite, next steps, wrapup 20:00:08 -cklaws 20:00:10 -parente 20:01:00 -Jan_Richards 20:01:03 -Jim_Allan 20:01:06 WAI_UAWG()2:00PM has ended 20:01:07 Attendees were Jim_Allan, Jan_Richards, cklaws, parente 20:01:29 RRSAgent, make minutes 20:01:29 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/11-ua-minutes.html JR 20:01:47 RRSAgent, set logs public 20:01:54 Zakim, bye 20:01:54 Zakim has left #ua 20:03:09 RRSAgent, bye 20:03:09 I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/11-ua-actions.rdf : 20:03:09 ACTION: JR to Make a WCAG 2.0 list of UAAG issues. [1] 20:03:09 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/11-ua-irc#T19-20-36 20:03:09 ACTION: JA to Send JR the doc JA has been working on. [2] 20:03:09 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/11-ua-irc#T19-20-57 20:03:09 ACTION: JA to Find WCAG-review comments. [3] 20:03:09 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/11-ua-irc#T19-55-07