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14:55:33 <fsasaki> zakim, this will be i18n
14:55:33 <Zakim> ok, fsasaki; I see I18N_TS()10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
14:55:44 <fsasaki> meeting: i18n ITS Working Group
14:55:46 <fsasaki> chair: Yves
14:55:49 <fsasaki> scribe: Felix
14:55:55 <fsasaki> scribeNick: fsasaki
14:56:18 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0000.html
14:56:25 <fsasaki> rrsagent, make log public
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14:59:57 <Zakim> I18N_TS()10:00AM has now started
15:00:04 <Zakim> +Yves_Savourel
15:01:39 <Zakim> +Felix
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15:05:47 <fsasaki> topic: action items
15:06:19 <fsasaki> action: Andrzej to check if his implementation works with without the element, using xmlns instead (DROPPED)
15:06:34 <fsasaki> Yves: let's drop this, it will be no problem to implement this
15:07:38 <fsasaki> .. you do namespace binding at the beginning of the code, it is no problem
15:07:44 <fsasaki> .. in DOM it's no problem
15:08:17 <fsasaki> Christian: was concerned to have a clear picture what is implemented by Andrzje company
15:09:00 <fsasaki> Felix: we don't need that picture to move forward from CR to PR
15:09:10 <fsasaki> s/Andrze/Andrzej/
15:09:56 <fsasaki> Christian: what could Andrzej's company do to claim conformance with ITS?
15:10:21 <fsasaki> .. submit their test results? What is the relation between the test result page and the conformance criteria?
15:11:52 <fsasaki> Yves: you can use your own output, you don't need to use the output format we do
15:12:11 <fsasaki> RESOLUTION: Remove the <ns> feature from the ITS draft
15:12:22 <fsasaki> action: Editors to remove the <ns> feature from the ITS draft
15:13:02 <fsasaki> action: Felix to check if "publication" as a form of test report script on w3c server is possible (DONE)
15:13:26 <fsasaki> Yves: it seems to be working, we noticed differences on the output
15:13:50 <fsasaki> action: Yves to extract the result format for each data category from his implementation and send it to the list. esp. Sebastian and Felix to check if they can live with Yves's proposal. (DONE)
15:14:00 <fsasaki> Yves: everybody agrees on the current format
15:14:18 <fsasaki> .. we have not generated ruby, directionality, language information yet
15:15:22 <fsasaki> action: Yves to make an inheritance & overriding example for Andrzej and send it to him, both verify that inheritance works the right way. (ONGOING)
15:15:31 <fsasaki> Yves: I'll send an reminder for that
15:18:41 <fsasaki> action items related to editors: 
15:19:59 <fsasaki> Christian: I'll make the change for the caveats of XPath, and the overriding and inheritance
15:20:25 <fsasaki> action: Christian to send an update with Yves' feedback on AI 03. (ONGOING)
15:20:53 <fsasaki> action: Editors to add to a draft s.t. about the output of ITS processing. (PENDING)
15:21:11 <fsasaki> Yves: see sec. 5.4 " Precedence between selections"
15:22:09 <fsasaki> (Yves describes the issue)
15:24:49 <fsasaki> Yves: propose to change 5.4 like this:
15:25:06 <chirLi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0079.html
15:25:09 <fsasaki> .. bullet item 3 (part of it)
15:25:24 <fsasaki> .. which talks about XLink, should be in no 2
15:26:31 <fsasaki> action: Yves to rewrite sec. 5.4, group to discuss it on the list
15:27:43 <fsasaki> action: Editors to go to the draft and check that there are no "CSS style elements" or the like. (PENDING)
15:27:49 <fsasaki> Felix: I'll do that
15:28:01 <fsasaki> action:  Felix to ask Jirka about whether he wants to participate in ITS actively. (DONE)
15:28:50 <fsasaki> Felix: just an admin question left, ready until next call I think
15:29:56 <fsasaki> action: Felix to change links from the WD to examples, so that they link to the input data directory (DROPPED)
15:31:23 <fsasaki> Felix: do we need to have the same examples?
15:31:40 <fsasaki> Yves: no, as long as both the spec examples and the test suite examples are valid and work
15:31:54 <fsasaki> action: Felix to go back to Jirka on the "version" attribute saying we don't see a lot of gain from the change. (DONE)
15:32:57 <fsasaki> action: Felix to go back to Jirka on the "version" attribute saying we don't see a lot of gain from the change. (DONE)
15:33:12 <fsasaki> action:  Felix to make the schematron fix. (DONE)
15:33:31 <fsasaki> change is at http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-its-20061102/#its-schematron-constraints
15:34:59 <fsasaki> Felix: name()='its:locNoteRule' is now self::its:locNoteRule
15:35:08 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#its-schematron-constraints
15:36:11 <fsasaki> action: Sebastian to add the XLink type attribute to the test suite files, Felix to do the same with the files related to the ODD file. (DONE)
15:37:16 <fsasaki> action: Yves to add the inheritance example to CVS. (DONE)
15:37:37 <fsasaki> topic: remaining ITS tagset issues
15:37:43 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=ITS
15:38:28 <fsasaki> Yves: 3319 can be closed after edit in draft
15:38:38 <fsasaki> .. 3325 is for BP doc
15:38:50 <fsasaki> .. 4096 is for the editors currently
15:40:23 <fsasaki> .. 4098 also editors change
15:42:18 <fsasaki> .. 4099 can be closed
15:42:49 <fsasaki> .. we decided on the output and listed at http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/ImpReport
15:42:52 <fsasaki> Felix: agree
15:42:57 <fsasaki> rrsagent, where am I?
15:42:57 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2007/01/10-i18nits-irc#T15-42-57
15:44:22 <fsasaki> Yves: new issue from Felix, see http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4152
15:47:41 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-its-20061102/#span.attributes
15:48:39 <fsasaki> The span attributes in the schema (the ODD document) are namespace qualified
15:48:50 <fsasaki> Felix: the span attributes in the schema (the ODD document) are namespace qualified
15:49:54 <fsasaki> Felix: I'd propose to allow for both notations, and prefer the not namespace qualified version
15:50:12 <fsasaki> action: Felix to post a proposal for both attribute notations on the span element
15:50:45 <fsasaki> topic: Test suite Comparison of the results.
15:50:58 <fsasaki> Yves: Felix found two problems, thanks for nothing that
15:51:24 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/2005/08/online_xslt/xslt?xslfile=http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/compare.xsl&xmlfile=http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/input-file-list.xml&content-type=&submit=transform
15:55:46 <fsasaki> Felix: now waiting for Sebastian's implementation
15:56:14 <fsasaki> topic: editing BP document
15:56:31 <fsasaki> Christian: should we contact Diane again?
15:56:51 <fsasaki> Yves: I'll make sure the built works and contact Diane later
15:58:11 <fsasaki> topic: AOB
15:58:18 <fsasaki> Felix: I'll be away next week
15:58:56 <Zakim> -Claus
16:06:04 <Zakim> -Yves_Savourel
16:06:09 <Zakim> -Felix
16:06:13 <Zakim> I18N_TS()10:00AM has ended
16:06:15 <Zakim> Attendees were Yves_Savourel, Felix, Claus
16:06:18 <fsasaki> present: Christian, Felix, Yves
16:06:27 <fsasaki> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:06:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/10-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
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