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14:44:56 <shadi> zakim, this will be ER
14:44:56 <Zakim> ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 16 minutes
14:45:15 <shadi> meeting: ERT WG
14:45:27 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2006Dec/0098.html
14:45:36 <shadi> chair: Shadi
14:45:48 <shadi> regrets: Daniela, Charles, Chris
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15:00:00 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has now started
15:00:02 <Zakim> +Shadi
15:00:39 <Zakim> +ThomasT
15:00:53 <JohannesK> zakim, thomast is really Johannes
15:00:54 <Zakim> +Johannes; got it
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15:03:54 <Zakim> +CarlosI
15:07:12 <Zakim> +Johannes.a
15:07:35 <CarlosV> zakim, Johannes.a is CarlosV
15:07:35 <Zakim> +CarlosV; got it
15:08:23 <shadi> Topic: HTTP Vocabulary in RDF publication
15:08:39 <shadi> scribe: Shadi
15:08:44 <shadi> scribenick: shadi
15:10:20 <shadi> saz: publication going online soon, thanks all for your hard work
15:10:46 <shadi> ...especially Johannes and CarlosV
15:11:51 <shadi> ...publication provoked a lot of interest within W3C groups
15:12:10 <shadi> ...hope to be getting several review comments over the next while
15:15:01 <shadi> ...Johannes will be maintaining an issues list for the WD
15:15:26 <shadi> Topic: confirm date for upcoming face-to-face
15:16:26 <shadi> RESOLUTION: next ERT WG face-to-face meeting on 22-23 February 2007 in Gijon, Spain
15:17:00 <shadi> saz: thanks to CTIC for hosting the event
15:17:18 <shadi> action: SAZ get in touch with CI about meeting logistics etc
15:17:45 <shadi> Topic: Joint WAI testing meeting
15:18:06 <shadi> saz: 24 January 2007 in Boston, USA
15:20:30 <shadi> saz: results from this meeting will be made available to ERT WG
15:20:54 <shadi> Topic: Extending ERT WG Charter
15:21:12 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2006Dec/0097
15:23:21 <shadi> saz: charter can only be extended for one year because WAI Technical Activity only chartered until 31 December 2007
15:25:04 <shadi> ...will chop off 2008 and we will revisit the charter in one year
15:25:33 <shadi> cv: what about adding the WG Notes (HTTP Vocabulary and Pointers) to deliverables?
15:25:38 <shadi> saz: will check
15:26:20 <shadi> Topic: alternate for earl:validity
15:26:42 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2006Dec/0088
15:31:53 <shadi> cv: what about earl:result
15:32:04 <shadi> saz: taken already for TestResult
15:33:02 <shadi> ci: what about earl:testresult (note the case)
15:33:27 <shadi> saz: confusing and not sure if RDF is case sensitive
15:34:02 <shadi> ci: recent use of earl:outcome shows its pretty natural
15:38:01 <JohannesK> 'sensitive' does not appear in RDF Primer, RDF/XML syntax, and RDFS specs
15:38:47 <shadi> cv: proposal to change earl:result to earl:testresult, and then change earl:validity to earl:result
15:39:22 <CarlosV> actually  earl:testResult
15:43:06 <shadi> jk: seems strange to have earl:testresult and earl:result
15:46:02 <shadi> brainstorms: value, label, output, rating
15:48:15 <shadi> RESOLUTION: best option right now seems earl:outcome, will use that unless someone objects
15:48:40 <shadi> action: SAZ send resolution and brainstorm words to the list to get input from the group
15:49:02 <shadi> Topic: addressing warnings in EARL
15:49:14 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2006Dec/0075
15:50:34 <shadi> A. drop the idea of warnings in EARL completely
15:50:34 <shadi> B. adopt a simple literal earl:warning property
15:50:34 <shadi> C. adopt a more comprehensive earl:Warning class
15:52:27 <shadi> ci: think we can discard option C, prefer option A, can see some use cases for option B
15:53:01 <shadi> ...must be careful in describing correct usage to avoid misuse or confusion
15:53:17 <shadi> ...took long for the group itself to come to common understanding
15:55:40 <shadi> cv: not in favor of adding extra complexity, not sure about the difference between adding a property and a new validity (outcome) level
15:58:49 <shadi> saz: additional information such as in the LONGDESC example, it could be a sub-property of dc:description as proposed by Charles
16:00:20 <shadi> jk: see use cases for option B, so vote for option B
16:01:13 <shadi> cv: can live with option B but with a different name than "warning". for example "information" or so
16:03:13 <shadi> RESOLUTION: consensus on option B for now, unless someone has objections
16:03:32 <shadi> action: SAZ send resolution to the list to get input from the group
16:04:45 <Zakim> -Johannes
16:04:49 <Zakim> -Shadi
16:04:51 <Zakim> -CarlosV
16:05:04 <Zakim> -CarlosI
16:05:05 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has ended
16:05:08 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, Johannes, CarlosI, CarlosV
16:05:35 <shadi> zakim, bye
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16:05:40 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
16:05:40 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-er-actions.rdf :
16:05:40 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SAZ get in touch with CI about meeting logistics etc [1]
16:05:40 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-er-irc#T15-17-18
16:05:40 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SAZ send resolution and brainstorm words to the list to get input from the group [2]
16:05:40 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-er-irc#T15-48-40
16:05:40 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SAZ send resolution to the list to get input from the group [3]
16:05:40 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/20-er-irc#T16-03-32