IRC log of databinding on 2006-12-19

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Zakim, this will be DBWG

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ok, trackbot; I see WS_DBWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes

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Meeting: Databinding WG Teleconference

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Date: 19 December 2006

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scribe: pauld

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chair: pauld

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Agenda:

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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2006Dec/0007.html

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+??P18

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zakim, code?

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the conference code is 3294 (tel:+1.617.761.6200), pauld

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+Paul_Downey

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zakim, ??P18 is gcowe

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+gcowe; got it

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zakim, ??P32 is vlad

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+vlad; got it

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+Jon_Calladine

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-Jon_Calladine

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+Jon_Calladine

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+Yves

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yves: can't make the 8-9the

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pauld: Ok, following week 13-15th in Nice

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ACTION: ylafon to book room in Nice 13-15th

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Created ACTION-96 - Book room in Nice 13-15th [on Yves Lafon - due 2006-12-26].

15:12:23 [vlad]

vlad: i'm not available at that time

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minutes from last telcon approved

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Topic: ISSUE-2: test suite

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2006Dec/0000.html

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vlad: had problems with xs:include, propose not using includes, include the patterns in the example schemas

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http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/examples/6/09/StringElement/

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http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/examples/6/09/StringElement/StringElement.xsd

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pauld: are you saying the << element ref="" >> pattern is possibly problematic?

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vlad: this one looks fine

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<xs:element name="targetNamespace" type="xs:string"/>

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was missing

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pauld: in the case of TargetNamespace we have a generic issue with examples which are complete schemas

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vlad: these examples are incomplete

15:26:25 [pauld]

pauld: first issue is one which george picked up around generating static include files

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pauld: second is complete schemas don't have the echo element in the generated echoXXX.xsd schema and WSDL

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ACTION: pdowney to fix echo examples for complete schemas such as TargetNamespace

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Created ACTION-97 - Fix echo examples for complete schemas such as TargetNamespace [on Paul Downey - due 2006-12-26].

15:29:17 [pauld]

pauld: not worried with the TargetNamespace example (coverage) but includes need fixing

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yves: currently working on removing spurious text nodes (insignificant whitespace) for XMLUnit comparison

15:30:26 [pauld]

pauld: been try Axis testing working sought assistance within BT

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pauld: no feed back from outside the Working Group, which is a worry

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pauld: will contact some developers directly

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Topic: ISSUE-12: identifying a conformant schema

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yves: nothing new on hosting the service

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ACTION: pdowney to resurrect the generated schemtron stylesheet

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Created ACTION-98 - Resurrect the generated schemtron stylesheet [on Paul Downey - due 2006-12-26].

15:35:32 [pauld]

nice list of schemas in the wild posted to comments list: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding-comments/2006Dec/0002.html

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gcowe: continue to use the patterns detector internally

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Topic: ISSUE-99: XSLT 2.0 terminology?

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pauld: took an action, proposal still in my email buffer

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Topic: ISSUE-100: LC: Basic Profile Compliant Import

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pauld: this seems to be the only way to import a schema into a WSDL, access the elements from messages and be BP compliant

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gcowe: not a chameleon schema!

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pauld: no!

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pauld: could be an issue, i'm not convinced it's valid due to schema import not being transitive

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ACTION: pdowney to craft examples and patterns for ISSUE-100 transitive import

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Created ACTION-99 - Craft examples and patterns for ISSUE-100 transitive import [on Paul Downey - due 2006-12-26].

15:41:22 [pauld]

paul bores the WG with his explanation

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gcowe: we don't encounter this issue.

15:42:18 [pauld]

pauld: could be an issue for the Basic Patterns document becasue no targetNamespace isn't allowed

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.. suspect we could add this pattern if it's incorrect but could be a substabtive change

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s/substb/substan/

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jonc: so it's currently advanced?

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.. can we craft a pattern to capture just this use

15:45:37 [pauld]

pauld: yes, we can detect noTargetNamespace schemas with nothing but imports in them

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pauld: thinks the elements in the imported schema won't be available to a validator

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Topic: ISSUE-101: fractionDigits, minLength and maxLength proposed patterns

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pauld: new issue from George

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gcowe: we found some patterns in our document

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.. currently have patterns but these apply to xs:string, added patterns for our cases

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2006Dec/0006

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pauld: three patterns in one issue?

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gcowe: fractions belongs with totalDigits

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pauld: exercised how to process patterns with respect to the issues list

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pauld: been adding new patterns as "pending"

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pauld: would like George (and possibly Jon) to have CVS access and work from the patterns.xml and examples.xml rather than the ISSUES list

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pauld: we can batch accept patterns as Advanced and track as ISSUES at the F2F

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RESOLUTION: close ISSUE-101 as Advanced patterns

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-vlad

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-Jon_Calladine

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-Yves

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-Paul_Downey

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-gcowe

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WS_DBWG()10:00AM has ended

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Attendees were Paul_Downey, gcowe, vlad, Jon_Calladine, Yves

15:59:17 [pauld]

pauld: happy Christmas/New Year/Holidays everybody, see you on the 16th Jan

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-databinding-minutes.html pauld

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