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19:02:23 <prasad> zakim, this will be ws-policy-eds
19:02:23 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled near this time, prasad
19:02:41 <prasad> zakim, this will be eds
19:02:41 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled near this time, prasad
19:03:06 <asir> Prasad, I have to leave at 11:45 AM Pacific for a doc appointment
19:03:20 <prasad> zakim, this will be policy-eds
19:03:20 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled near this time, prasad
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19:03:29 <maryann> zakim, who is here?
19:03:29 <Zakim> I notice WS_Policy(editors)2:00PM has restarted
19:03:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see Prasad_Yendluri, +1.781.662.aaaa, Maryann_Hondo, ??P2, Paul_Cotton
19:03:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see dorchard, Zakim, RRSAgent, FrederickHirsch, maryann, prasad, asir, trackbot
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19:04:08 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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19:04:21 <prasad> Meeting: WS_Policy (Editors)
19:04:27 <prasad> Chair: Prasad
19:04:40 <prasad> scribe: maryann
19:05:01 <maryann> Attendees: FrederickHirsh, prasad, dorchard, asir
19:05:02 <prasad> Present: Prasad, Maryann, DaveO, Frederic, Asir
19:05:11 <Zakim> +DOrchard
19:05:19 <prasad> Regrets: Toufic
19:05:43 <prasad> zakim, who is here?
19:05:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see Prasad_Yendluri, +1.781.662.aaaa, Maryann_Hondo, Paul_Cotton, asir, DOrchard
19:05:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see daveo, dorchard, Zakim, RRSAgent, FrederickHirsch, maryann, prasad, asir, trackbot
19:06:11 <maryann> ACTION: Asir to create a cookbook for generating diffs
19:06:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-87 - Create a cookbook for generating diffs [on Asir Vedamuthu - due 2006-12-06].
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19:06:53 <prasad> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-eds/2006Nov/0119.html
19:10:28 <maryann> TOPIC:  administrivia
19:10:44 <maryann> prasad: next week scribe is prasad, and toufic is chair
19:10:52 <maryann> asir: fallback is umit
19:11:39 <maryann> asir: i won't be on the call, or be able to be backup for editor call
19:11:54 <maryann> fallback for no umit is prasad
19:12:23 <maryann> TOPIC : chair rotation 
19:12:32 <maryann> prasad: is this correct?
19:12:43 <Zakim> +??P2
19:13:30 <maryann> prasad: we need you (umit) to be the fallback chair next week if toufic doesn't make it
19:13:59 <maryann> prasad: recap, agenda review & review of chair rotation
19:14:38 <maryann> prasad: last item is new time for editors call
19:15:02 <maryann> prasad: proposal 2pm pacific 5pm eastern?
19:15:15 <maryann> asir: we need to give felix an action to move the bridge
19:15:35 <maryann> fred: i thought felix couldn't make that time
19:15:43 <maryann> prasad: he said he'll be late
19:16:01 <maryann> RESOULUTION: move call to 2pm pacific 5 pm eastern
19:16:10 <maryann> ACTION: felix to move the bridge
19:16:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-88 - Move the bridge [on Felix Sasaki - due 2006-12-06].
19:16:38 <maryann> s/bridge/ bridge to be 2pm pacific 5 pm eastern
19:17:00 <maryann> TOPIC: review open items
19:17:00 <asir> Here is a summary of editors' actions - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-eds/2006Nov/0098.html
19:18:24 <maryann> TOPIC: action 59
19:19:27 <maryann> prasad: this was assigned to you previously
19:19:42 <maryann> umit: i already reviewed these before the doc was put into cvs
19:19:55 <maryann> umit: we should close this and open new issues as appropriate
19:20:03 <maryann> prasad: any issues with closing?
19:20:06 <maryann> no
19:20:28 <maryann> RESOLUTION: action 59 to be closed
19:20:37 <maryann> TOPIC: action 64
19:20:53 <maryann> asir: this is done
19:21:31 <prasad> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicyeds/actions/64
19:22:32 <maryann> RESOLUTION: done 
19:22:42 <maryann> TOPIC: item 77
19:23:59 <maryann> maryann: i checked in the changes and the correction as per asir's email
19:24:11 <maryann> fred: suggest we close this
19:24:50 <maryann> RESOLUTION: close with completed
19:25:00 <maryann> TOPIC: action item 78
19:25:22 <maryann> plan presented to the working group today 
19:25:32 <maryann> RESOLUTION: close 78 completed
19:25:42 <maryann> TOPIC: action item 79 
19:25:56 <maryann> asir: this is done
19:26:11 <maryann> RESOULTUION: close completed the action
19:26:21 <maryann> TOPIC: action itme 80
19:26:37 <maryann> asir: done
19:26:55 <maryann> RESOULTION: closed, item is completed
19:27:07 <maryann> TOPIC: action 81  to asir
19:27:13 <maryann> asir: item is done
19:27:40 <maryann> asir: updating primer with change to policy reference element
19:27:58 <maryann> RESOLUTION: closed, item is completed
19:28:18 <maryann> TOPIC: action item 83 create snapshot of primer & guidelines
19:28:33 <maryann> asir: sent out the snapshots and sent links to mailing list
19:28:50 <maryann> fred: would be good to create a diff against the snapshot 
19:29:14 <maryann> asir: i will make a separate  diff
19:29:28 <maryann> umit: what's the process for generating diffs
19:29:44 <maryann> prasad: in the past we did it only when we had a new published draft for the wg
19:30:09 <maryann> prasad: this is different because we're just trying to track the different edits being done to the guidelines
19:30:27 <maryann> prasad: fred was asking for one more diff to see his changes
19:30:57 <maryann> ACTION: to asir to generate a diff  between draft for action 77 and action 84
19:30:57 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to
19:31:50 <maryann> prasad: i can tell you the general steps 
19:32:26 <maryann> prasad: if you want to do a diff against a specific tagged version the process is a little more complicated
19:32:40 <maryann> prasad: asir will write up the process
19:32:52 <maryann> TOPIC: action item 83 
19:33:08 <maryann> asir: this is complete ...generate the diffs
19:33:17 <asir> ACTION: Asir to generate a guidelines diff between action 77 and 84 changes
19:33:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-89 - Generate a guidelines diff between action 77 and 84 changes [on Asir Vedamuthu - due 2006-12-06].
19:33:19 <maryann> s/diffs/snapshot
19:33:45 <maryann> TOPIC: action 84
19:34:28 <maryann> fred: its been a little confusing on the mailing list , this is just an editorial pass and i will open issues for any substantive changes
19:34:37 <maryann> asir: what's the ETA?
19:35:09 <maryann> prasad: the current date is friday
19:35:51 <maryann> fred: i think all editors should read and post to the list any other issues with the current draft
19:36:23 <maryann> fred: we just need to be clear that fred is the only one editing
19:36:40 <maryann> prasad: lets open a new one for all the editors
19:36:56 <asir> Here is the action-77 diff http://tinyurl.com/yjpbyf
19:37:30 <maryann> ACTION: everyone to review snapshot (uri posted by asir) 
19:37:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-90 - Review snapshot (uri posted by asir)  [on Everyone Everyone - due 2006-12-06].
19:37:42 <maryann> zakim, where am i?
19:37:42 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, maryann.
19:37:49 <maryann> rrsagent: where am i?
19:37:49 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2006/11/29-ws-policy-eds-irc#T19-37-49
19:38:16 <maryann> asir: are you doing the whole document or just the changes?
19:38:27 <maryann> fred: i was going to do the whole document
19:38:37 <maryann> umit: yes, that is what you agreed to do
19:38:51 <maryann> prasad: asir, do you have an issue?
19:39:09 <maryann> asir: i'm worried about changing things that are not the will of the working group
19:39:23 <maryann> fred: i wouldn't move anything around or make substantive changes
19:39:43 <maryann> umit: we will have the diff, if we find anything contoversial we can address it then
19:40:06 <maryann> asir: is it ok if i generate the diff noon pacific on friday?
19:40:14 <maryann> fred: yes that should be ok
19:40:43 <maryann> TOPIC: action item 85
19:41:00 <maryann> prasad: action is on felix
19:41:08 <maryann> asir: i don't think that is done
19:41:17 <maryann> fred: yes its taking a little time
19:41:26 <maryann> prasad: is umit on it?
19:41:32 <maryann> asir: yes umit is already there
19:41:48 <maryann> TOPIC: action item 86
19:41:57 <maryann> asir: this is done
19:42:08 <maryann> RESOLUTION: completed, action is done
19:42:54 <maryann> asir: i had a question on moving up delivery of guidelines & primer
19:43:15 <maryann> asir: what i'm hearing is that we will be done on friday
19:43:26 <maryann> umit: this is not taking into account new issues
19:43:56 <maryann> fred: why wouldn't we try to roll in simple changes on the 6th?
19:44:22 <maryann> asir: it will take some time to get those in and get the groups agreement
19:44:43 <maryann> prasad: fred is shooting for friday
19:45:03 <maryann> fred: when are we saying this would go out to the group?
19:45:21 <maryann> umit: i'm assuming if we send it tues, people will not have read it
19:45:40 <maryann> umit: so then we would give them another week to approve
19:46:00 <maryann> fred: i should be ok
19:46:27 <maryann> fred: i am concerned that the 13th will be the time they need to approved
19:46:40 <maryann> umit: we can give them enough time to know
19:47:23 <daveo> I have to drop off at my usual 11:45 drop off..
19:47:49 <Zakim> -DOrchard
19:47:50 <maryann> paul: we can put in a status section that points to the open bugs
19:48:26 <maryann> prasad: we have already given all editors an action to get comments by friday
19:49:42 <maryann> fred: if people have additional edits on friday, they can do it after i'm done
19:50:31 <maryann> fred: my goal was to make sure we got the issue (77) done right and in the process do editing fixes
19:50:46 <maryann> prasad: is this both documents?
19:50:49 <maryann> asir: yes
19:51:11 <maryann> prasad: what about the diffs for the working group?
19:51:21 <maryann> asir: i can do that on monday
19:51:37 <maryann> prasad: ok, i will try to generate the diffs on tues
19:51:43 <Zakim> -asir
19:52:07 <maryann> ACTION: prasad to generate the diffs for the working group 
19:52:08 <trackbot> Created ACTION-91 - Generate the diffs for the working group  [on Prasad Yendluri - due 2006-12-06].
19:52:24 <maryann> s/group/ group on Tues/
19:52:55 <maryann> fred: other people can do other editorial passes on monday
19:53:16 <maryann> fred: and then you (prasad) will generate the final diff versions for the working group
19:53:40 <maryann> TOPIC: agenda item 3- check for new actions
19:53:50 <maryann> prasad: no new actions
19:54:25 <maryann> TOPIC: agenda item 4-- status of primer and guidelines
19:54:31 <maryann> prasad: we just did that
19:54:46 <maryann> TOPIC: agenda item 5 --defer this to next call
19:55:10 <maryann> fred: is it during the days of the F2F?
19:55:29 <maryann> prasad: we generally do it on the last day so we know what our action items are
19:56:48 <maryann> prasad: meeting is adjourned
19:57:03 <prasad> Present+ PaulC, Umit
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19:57:17 <prasad> rrsagent, makes logs public
19:57:17 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'makes logs public', prasad.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
19:57:20 <Zakim> -Paul_Cotton
19:57:28 <prasad> rrsagent, make logs public
19:57:41 <maryann> rrsagent, draft minutes please
19:57:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/11/29-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html maryann
20:11:08 <prasad> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/
20:12:50 <Zakim> -Prasad_Yendluri
20:12:51 <Zakim> -Maryann_Hondo
20:12:53 <Zakim> - +1.781.662.aaaa
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20:12:56 <Zakim> Attendees were Prasad_Yendluri, +1.781.662.aaaa, Maryann_Hondo, Paul_Cotton, asir, DOrchard
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