21:01:08 RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag 21:01:08 logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-wai-wcag-irc 21:01:13 RRSAgent, do not start a new log 21:01:18 RRSAgent, make log world 21:01:24 zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG 21:01:24 ok, ben_, I see WAI_WCAG()3:00PM already started 21:01:29 Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon 21:01:35 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006OctDec/0124.html 21:01:38 Christophe has joined #wai-wcag 21:01:39 +Becky_Gibson 21:01:40 Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loretta_Guarino_Reid 21:01:44 ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly 21:01:50 +Bruce_Bailey 21:01:53 agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates 21:01:54 becka11y has joined #wai-wcag 21:01:58 agenda+ Team C Survey for 09 November 21:02:03 agenda+ Team C Survey for 16 November 21:02:08 agenda+ Team B Survey for 16 November 21:02:09 Gregg has joined #wai-wcag 21:02:15 +Andi_Snow_Weaver 21:02:18 zakim, who is on the phone? 21:02:18 On the phone I see ??P10, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, ??P17, David_MacDonald, Becky_Gibson, Bruce_Bailey, Andi_Snow_Weaver 21:02:35 zakim, ??P10 is Gregg_Vanderheiden_and_Ben_Caldwell 21:02:35 +Gregg_Vanderheiden_and_Ben_Caldwell; got it 21:02:50 Andi has joined #wai-wcag 21:02:52 zakim, ??P17 is Cynthia_Shelley 21:02:52 +Cynthia_Shelley; got it 21:02:55 +[IPcaller] 21:02:58 -Bruce_Bailey 21:03:00 zakim, [IPcaller is Roberto_Scano 21:03:00 +Roberto_Scano; got it 21:03:06 zakim, I am Roberto_Scano 21:03:06 ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano 21:03:10 zakim, mute me 21:03:10 Roberto_Scano should now be muted 21:03:32 +Sean_Hayes 21:04:10 +Christophe_Strobbe 21:04:11 +Katie_Haritos-Shea 21:04:24 +[IPcaller] 21:04:26 +Bruce_Bailey 21:04:40 zakim, [IPcaller] is Bengt_Farre 21:04:40 +Bengt_Farre; got it 21:04:50 + +1.301.779.aaaa 21:04:56 Sofia has joined #wai-wcag 21:05:10 zakim, +1.301.779.aaaa is Tim_Boland 21:05:10 +Tim_Boland; got it 21:05:32 David_MacDonald has joined #wai-wcag 21:05:40 +Sofia_Celic 21:05:42 yes 21:06:21 why not step away from us holidays ..... 21:07:00 dont see why they are neccessary ;) 21:07:07 +Cooper 21:08:00 +[IPcaller] 21:08:17 zakim, [IPCaller is Luca_Mascaro 21:08:17 +Luca_Mascaro; got it 21:08:26 zakim, mute Luca 21:08:26 Luca_Mascaro should now be muted 21:08:28 zakim, who's on the phone? 21:08:28 On the phone I see Gregg_Vanderheiden_and_Ben_Caldwell, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Cynthia_Shelley, David_MacDonald, Becky_Gibson, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Roberto_Scano (muted), Sean_Hayes, 21:08:31 ... Katie_Haritos-Shea, Christophe_Strobbe, Bengt_Farre, Bruce_Bailey, Tim_Boland, Sofia_Celic (muted), Cooper, Luca_Mascaro (muted) 21:08:35 LucaMascaro has joined #wai-WCAG 21:08:42 Zakim, mute me 21:08:42 Luca_Mascaro was already muted, LucaMascaro 21:10:01 protest 21:10:53 RESOLUTION: no meeting next week 21:11:07 sean has joined #wai-wcag 21:11:52 scribe: Christophe 21:12:35 RESOLUTION: LC-891 and LC-1231 accepted as proposed with unanimous consent 21:15:08 zakim, take up agendum 1 21:15:08 agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from ben_] 21:15:30 zakim, take up agendum 2 21:15:30 agendum 2. "Team C Survey for 09 November" taken up [from ben_] 21:16:07 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20061109-teamc/results 21:16:29 Topic: LC-783: Slider not device independent 21:16:52 -Luca_Mascaro 21:16:58 RESOLUTION: LC-873 accepted as proposed 21:17:08 Topic: LC-784: Time limits for sign language interpretation 21:17:20 RESOLUTION: LC-784 accepted as ammended 21:17:28 LucaMascaro_ has joined #wai-WCAG 21:17:29 s/873/783 21:17:51 Topic: LC-1099: Technique to turn off flashing before it begins 21:18:06 +[IPcaller] 21:18:17 zakim, [IPca is LucaMascaro 21:18:17 +LucaMascaro; got it 21:18:21 Zakim, mute me 21:18:21 LucaMascaro should now be muted 21:22:31 -LucaMascaro 21:22:50 RESOLUTION: accept LC-1099 as ammended (new advisory technique) 21:23:13 Topic: LC-1282: Clarify operated vs accessed 21:24:19 RESOLUTION: close LC-1282 (as proposed) by accepting the suggestion 21:24:39 Topic: LC-1201: Preciseness of Guideline 1.3 21:26:18 -Bruce_Bailey 21:28:42 +Bruce_Bailey 21:32:46 q+ 21:36:05 ack da 21:38:18 q+ 21:40:06 q+ 21:40:21 q+ 21:40:56 ack sea 21:41:57 ack mich 21:42:58 q+ 21:43:03 ack andi 21:45:24 ack gregg 21:45:30 ack cyn 21:49:09 RESOLUTION: accpet LC-1201 as ammended 21:50:36 ACTION: David to reword GL 1.3 Understanding doc to match GL 1.3 text 21:50:49 Topic: LC--885: 1.1.1 difficult to understand 21:53:46 RESOLUTION: send LC-885 back to Team C; rejected due to F2F resolution on SC 1.1.1 21:54:15 Topic: LC-1281: Contradiction in 1.1.1 21:58:21 RESOLUTION: change "same information" to "equivalent information" in the Guidelines 21:59:21 RESOLUTION: accept LC-1281 as ammended 21:59:32 zakim, take up agendum 3 21:59:32 agendum 3. "Team C Survey for 16 November" taken up [from ben_] 22:00:51 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20061116-teamc/results 22:01:37 Topic: Question based on proposal for 891 (http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20061116-teamc/results#x891Q) 22:02:55 q+ 22:03:07 About SC 1.2.5 Sign language interpretation is provided for multimedia. (level 3) 22:03:22 ack sean 22:03:56 q+ 22:04:33 q- 22:05:39 q+ 22:06:36 q+ 22:07:19 -Roberto_Scano 22:07:25 mmm 22:07:26 skype problems 22:07:58 q+ 22:10:53 ack g 22:11:48 ack andi 22:11:50 ack sea 22:16:59 RESOLUTION: keep SC 1.2.5 22:17:25 Topic: 956: Modification of 1.1.1 22:19:19 RESOLUTION: LC-956 accepted as ammended 22:19:40 Topic: LC-1524: Unclarity of non-text content 22:19:52 -Tim_Boland 22:22:05 RESOLUTION: LC-1524 accepted as proposed 22:22:32 Topic: LC-978: Who determines error 22:28:00 RESOLUTION: LC-978 accepted as ammended. 22:28:16 Topic: LC-1197: Specificity for context-sensitive help 22:30:18 ack cyn 22:32:47 q+ 22:32:55 ack g 22:37:42 -Bruce_Bailey 22:41:00 RESOLUTION: accept LC-1197 as ammended. 22:41:16 Topic: LC-1171: Extend recovery requirement 22:43:20 +Bruce_Bailey 22:48:05 Action: David to explore 1171 for language that might work 22:49:02 RESOLUTION: LC-1171 left opne 22:49:10 s/opne/open/ 22:50:00 zakim, take up agendum 4 22:50:00 agendum 4. "Team B Survey for 16 November" taken up [from ben_] 22:50:17 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/teamb16112006/results 22:51:03 Topic: Combine SC 3.1.1 and 3.1.2: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/teamb16112006/results#xsc311312 22:51:07 Q+ 22:54:21 ack g 22:56:30 q+ 22:56:41 ack sean 22:56:46 q+ to say I won't fight about what level it goes at 22:56:52 ack m 22:56:52 Michael_Cooper, you wanted to say I won't fight about what level it goes at 23:02:59 RESOLUTION: close LC-622, LC-623, LC-760, LC-1295 as ammended 23:08:23 -Katie_Haritos-Shea 23:08:34 -Becky_Gibson 23:08:35 -Cynthia_Shelley 23:08:35 -Sean_Hayes 23:08:37 -Bengt_Farre 23:08:37 -Sofia_Celic 23:08:39 -Loretta_Guarino_Reid 23:08:41 -Christophe_Strobbe 23:08:42 -Bruce_Bailey 23:08:43 -??P10 23:08:44 -David_MacDonald 23:08:45 -Andi_Snow_Weaver 23:08:47 -Cooper 23:08:49 WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended 23:08:51 Attendees were Loretta_Guarino_Reid, David_MacDonald, Becky_Gibson, Bruce_Bailey, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Gregg_Vanderheiden_and_Ben_Caldwell, Cynthia_Shelley, Roberto_Scano, Sean_Hayes, 23:08:55 ... Christophe_Strobbe, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Bengt_Farre, Tim_Boland, Sofia_Celic, Cooper, [IPcaller], Luca_Mascaro, LucaMascaro 23:09:03 becka11y has left #wai-wcag 23:09:40 bengt has left #wai-wcag 23:11:17 RRSAgent, pointer? 23:11:17 See http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-wai-wcag-irc#T23-11-17 23:16:37 RRSagent, bye 23:16:37 I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-wai-wcag-actions.rdf : 23:16:37 ACTION: David to reword GL 1.3 Understanding doc to match GL 1.3 text [1] 23:16:37 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-wai-wcag-irc#T21-50-36 23:16:37 ACTION: David to explore 1171 for language that might work [2] 23:16:37 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-wai-wcag-irc#T22-48-05 23:16:40 Zakim, bye 23:16:40 Zakim has left #wai-wcag