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18:04:02 <fsasaki> meeting: WS Policy WG (editor's)
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18:09:29 <Zakim> WS_Policy(editors)2:00PM has now started
18:09:30 <Zakim> +Felix
18:09:55 <Zakim> +Toufic_Boubez
18:09:58 <Zakim> +Prasad_Yendluri
18:12:16 <prasad> http://www.w3.org/2006/10/04-ws-policy-minutes.html
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18:19:38 <w3c> sorry
18:20:32 <w3c> ok, so how do i change from w3c to maryann?
18:20:35 <toufic> maryann, are you online?
18:20:38 <toufic> ah ok
18:20:44 <toufic> zakim, w3c is maryann
18:20:44 <Zakim> sorry, toufic, I do not recognize a party named 'w3c'
18:20:44 <w3c> yes, i'm trying 
18:21:07 <w3c> scribeNick: w3c
18:21:11 <toufic> maryann, are you on the phone?
18:21:14 <w3c> will that work
18:21:16 <w3c> not yet
18:21:19 <toufic> k
18:22:01 <prasad> The code is 3348 (617-761-6200)
18:22:01 <w3c> whats the passcode?
18:22:07 <w3c> thanks
18:22:09 <Zakim> +[IBMCambridge]
18:22:13 <toufic> EDIT
18:23:22 <w3c> zakim, [IBMCambridge] is Maryann
18:23:22 <Zakim> +Maryann; got it
18:23:25 <toufic> cool
18:23:26 <w3c> yeah
18:23:30 <toufic> wait!
18:23:35 <toufic> that's for the phone
18:24:01 <toufic> yes
18:24:03 <maryann> ok
18:24:09 <maryann> scribeNick: maryann
18:24:25 <maryann> chair: Toufic
18:24:34 <maryann> present :
18:24:54 <maryann> present: Toufic, prasad, felix, maryann
18:25:05 <fsasaki> regrets: dOrchard, Asir
18:25:15 <maryann> TOPIC: Administrative
18:25:52 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-eds/2006Oct/0014.html
18:26:57 <maryann> maryann: had question about reporting
18:27:16 <maryann> prasad: report on the open actions
18:27:43 <maryann> toufic:: why was maryann reporting, and for next week who will be reporting?
18:27:49 <maryann> prasad:  it will be the chair
18:28:03 <maryann> toufic: so next week I (toufic) will be reporting
18:28:30 <maryann> toufic: arrangements for next week? how do we get back on track?
18:29:00 <maryann> troufic: if prasad chairs next week we're back on track
18:29:09 <maryann> toufic: and I will scribe
18:29:24 <maryann> prasad: asir is out, and dave was busy this week
18:29:35 <maryann> TOPIC: review open items
18:29:58 <maryann> toufic: we need to reassign asir's actions, and this already was done by prasad taking one
18:30:08 <maryann> prasad: yes and there is one other one still pending
18:30:17 <maryann> toufic: should I change the date on 12
18:30:38 <maryann> prasad: yeah , maybe we should do it one week after asir comes back
18:30:58 <maryann> toufic: lets change it to 10/16
18:31:19 <maryann> TOPIC: ACTION 1
18:31:25 <prasad> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicyeds/actions/open
18:31:44 <maryann> maryann: i was waiting for you to ack
18:32:00 <maryann> toufic: i closed the item and its acked
18:33:50 <maryann> maryann: i lost my cvs access so i'm trying to get  access again
18:35:11 <maryann> prasad: if we want a new editors draft it needs to be done before the 10th
18:35:32 <maryann> TOPIC: 10 - 
18:35:43 <maryann> prasad: will be done this week
18:36:15 <maryann> TOPIC: Action 12 -- Asir still owns but date moved to 10/16
18:36:24 <maryann> TOPIC: Action 19 --- 
18:36:39 <maryann> toufic: had a question, prasad replied will fix this week
18:36:52 <maryann> TOPIC: Action 20
18:37:07 <maryann> felix: made progress today will be done by the 9th
18:37:20 <maryann> TOPIC: action 32 -Dave O not hear, touf to send mai
18:37:56 <maryann> toufic: proposal 3 of daves mail might be related
18:39:06 <maryann> TOPIC: action 43 
18:41:29 <toufic> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3577
18:43:49 <toufic> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/108
18:44:43 <maryann> maryann: i'm confused about what to do
18:45:20 <maryann> prasad : you need to first understand the qname before you can determine if you intersect
18:46:46 <maryann> maryann: it seems to me that there is normative text and there is perhaps an example that can be given in the primer
18:47:10 <maryann> but i'm not sure what to put in the guidelines
18:49:13 <maryann> prasad: the guidelines has some text  that addresses this ......( this was from the f2f minutes)
18:49:46 <maryann> maryann: who do I ask for clarification?
18:50:14 <maryann> felix: suggest sending to public list so the group is aware of this discussion
18:50:48 <maryann> prasad: hard to tell who to send this to so send it to the public list
18:52:41 <maryann> felix: propose to try to capture the discussion rather than trying to do it later
18:54:13 <maryann> maryann: will draft a mail and send to the editors for an ack before sending to public list
18:54:31 <maryann> TOPIC: Action 44
18:55:00 <maryann> prasad: discussed in the call today, waiting for an editors draft of the attachment document 
18:56:03 <maryann> TOPIC: Action 45  
18:56:18 <maryann> maryann: i took it without knowing I was going to lose cvs
18:56:29 <maryann> so i'm open to others volunteering to help
18:56:41 <maryann> toufic: volunteer to take ACTION 47
18:57:09 <maryann> toufic: will change date in 45 to 10/09 
18:57:20 <maryann> toufic: reassign Action 47 to toufic
18:57:37 <maryann> TOPIC: Action 47 reassigned to toufic
18:57:52 <maryann> TOPIC: Action 50  toufic to send mail to Dave O
18:58:14 <maryann> TOPIC : Editorial team reporting 
18:58:22 <maryann> toufic: what should be reported?
18:58:44 <maryann> prasad: editors draft ....do you think we could have another generated by next week?
18:58:53 <maryann> toufic: pending on daves 2 open actions
18:59:22 <maryann> prasad: we haven't closed any open items this week
18:59:43 <maryann> toufic: when were we supposed to have an editors draft out?
18:59:47 <maryann> prasad: last week
19:00:59 <maryann> toufic: next week will be the status on the draft
19:01:25 <maryann> maryann: i wasn't sure if we're supposed to report on all our open actions or just the ones listed by the chairs in the agenda
19:01:42 <maryann> prasad: only the ones on the agenda
19:02:24 <maryann> prasad: in addition to the actions in the agenda we probably want to give a status on primer & guidelines
19:03:02 <maryann> prasad: if we're done with all the actions on the 9th
19:03:37 <fsasaki> chair: Toufic
19:03:42 <maryann> prasad: then we need to generate  working group drafts
19:03:59 <maryann> toufic: update on the drafts & guidelines
19:05:24 <maryann> felix: prepare a new working draft
19:06:18 <maryann> felix: normally you would say its published when the group approves
19:06:53 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/TR
19:08:15 <maryann> prasad: so we need to have closed on the one going to the lise
19:08:36 <maryann> felix: i have a working group action to check in the guidelines doc
19:09:41 <maryann> felix: the state of a working draft is an approved working draft
19:10:28 <maryann> felix: asir has done this before for 2 previous versions and this is a tagging of the documents
19:11:13 <maryann> toufic: will say we're done with the action items and we say we think they're ready for the working group to approve and then we will tag
19:12:27 <maryann> felix: when the working group says we agree, then we tag it
19:12:47 <maryann> toufic: we recommend it and if they approve then it gets tagged
19:13:02 <maryann> prasad: what about the diffs?
19:13:27 <maryann> felix: if you use the diff-task then they are automatically generated
19:13:41 <maryann> prasad: does it pick up from the last draft?
19:13:50 <maryann> felix: from the last published draft
19:14:03 <maryann> prasad: we need to send those out too?
19:14:18 <maryann> felix: a link to the documents and the diffs and then tag the directory
19:14:44 <fsasaki> type "ant diff" to generate the diff documents
19:14:58 <maryann> TOPIC: any other items?
19:15:19 <Zakim> -Maryann
19:15:20 <Zakim> -Prasad_Yendluri
19:15:21 <Zakim> -Toufic_Boubez
19:15:22 <Zakim> WS_Policy(editors)2:00PM has ended
19:15:23 <Zakim> Attendees were Felix, Toufic_Boubez, Prasad_Yendluri, Maryann
19:15:25 <fsasaki> adjourned
19:15:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/10/04-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html fsasaki
19:15:37 <maryann> felix, thanks for your help
19:16:22 <fsasaki> np :)
19:16:38 <maryann> someday it will be second nature :-)
19:17:01 <fsasaki> don't worry, it will be o.k. Good night (or good morning), bye for now
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