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13:57:46 <shadi> zakim, this will be ERT WG
13:57:47 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled near this time, shadi
13:57:52 <shadi> zakim, this will be ERT
13:57:52 <Zakim> ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
13:58:04 <shadi> meeting: ERT WG
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13:58:28 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2006Sep/0034.html
13:58:33 <shadi> chair: Shadi
13:58:44 <shadi> regrets: Nick, Charles, Jim
13:59:06 <shadi> agenda+ Publishing EARL 1.0 Schema Working Draft
13:59:17 <shadi> agenda+ EARL 1.0 Schema: Known Issues
13:59:52 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has now started
13:59:54 <Zakim> +Shadi
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14:00:48 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:00:56 <Zakim> +CarlosV
14:01:17 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller is really Chris
14:01:17 <Zakim> +Chris; got it
14:01:22 <JohannesK> zakim, CarlosV is really JohannesK
14:01:22 <Zakim> +JohannesK; got it
14:01:33 <shadi> scribe: Chris
14:01:40 <shadi> scribenick: ChrisR
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14:03:03 <Zakim> +JohannesK.a
14:03:48 <carlosV> zakim, JohannesK.a is carlosV
14:03:48 <Zakim> +carlosV; got it
14:05:32 <shadi> regrets: Nick, Charles, Jim, CarlosI
14:05:57 <ChrisR> take up agendum 1
14:07:02 <ChrisR> SAZ: If no objections then we'll publish. 
14:07:41 <ChrisR> JK: Will it be published with HTTP notes?
14:08:02 <ChrisR> SAZ: While in review period we can publish HTTP notes.
14:08:24 <ChrisR> JK: Notes seem to be finished so we could publish now.
14:08:51 <ChrisR> SAZ: Only an internal draft of notes is available. Need more editorial notes and fit into format.
14:09:47 <ChrisR> SAZ: Nothing missing in schema.
14:11:04 <ChrisR> resolution: no objections so far so we'll publish EARL 1.0 schema working draft
14:12:58 <ChrisR> take up agendum 2
14:14:18 <ChrisR> (review of issues)
14:20:56 <ChrisR> SAZ: proposal - max cardinality of 1, properties 'assertedby' and 'result'
14:21:37 <ChrisR> JK: can live with proposal
14:21:44 <ChrisR> CV: not so sure
14:23:17 <ChrisR> CV: we have no restriction on cardinality
14:26:39 <ChrisR> CR: can live with proposal
14:27:57 <ChrisR> SAZ: proposal - close issue
14:28:48 <ChrisR> SAZ: (close issue in chapter 2.2 "foaf:Person is redundant as it is a subclass...")
14:32:01 <ChrisR> (discussion on earl:TestSubject)
14:32:59 <ChrisR> JK: We need to be able to record location of subject on local system - not just HTTP
14:33:31 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:35:13 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller is really Jim
14:35:13 <Zakim> +Jim; got it
14:36:54 <JibberJim> sure - I don't think we can go out of our way to prevent all conflicts in spec, we have to expect common sense in our users
14:38:12 <ChrisR> SAZ: proposal - we adopt uri:uri into test subject
14:39:35 <ChrisR> SAZ: suggest we leave as is and discuss on email
14:40:11 <ChrisR> SAZ: another topic that came up from email - do we want to store source of document within report?
14:40:22 <JibberJim> I don't think we need a method right now to store source, it would be easy for people to add
14:42:21 <ChrisR> SAZ: Perhaps add to EARL guide doc?
14:43:19 <ChrisR> SAZ: Don't agree with Jim (not an immediate need case)
14:43:39 <shadi> s/Don't agree/Do agree
14:45:50 <ChrisR> SAZ: Any agreement that this should not be in schema but perhaps add info to guide doc?
14:47:17 <JibberJim> no need to extend schema
14:47:28 <ChrisR> CR: no need to extend schema
14:48:54 <ChrisR> SAZ: some agreement that we should add to EARL guide
14:49:52 <ChrisR> SAZ: proposal - Consider maximum cardinality restrictions for earl:validity, and earl:confidence
14:49:59 <ChrisR> (agreement)
14:51:15 <ChrisR> SAZ: proposal - Consider dropping confidence level
14:53:09 <ChrisR> (discussion but no agreement)
14:58:33 <shadi> possible directions: 1. keep it as is; 2. drop it; 3. define it as a numerical value (percentage?)
14:59:11 <JibberJim> percentages don't make it work - chaal's 70% is going to be different to my 70%
15:00:06 <JibberJim> oh yes live with 1
15:00:12 <shadi> CV: vote for 1
15:00:22 <shadi> JL: vote for 2, can live with 1
15:00:23 <ChrisR> thinks we should drop it. Confidence is more closely related to the test.
15:00:32 <JibberJim> er other way around?
15:00:49 <carlosV> no shadi, CV: vote for 2
15:01:07 <shadi> JL: vote for 1, can live with 2
15:01:54 <ChrisR> CR: vote for 2 but can live with 1
15:02:16 <ChrisR> JK: votes for 2 but can live with 1 - we need clear use cases if kept.
15:03:31 <ChrisR> SAZ: we need to think more about min/max cardinalities for properties
15:03:45 <JibberJim> bye!
15:03:48 <Zakim> -JohannesK
15:03:51 <Zakim> -Jim
15:03:52 <Zakim> -Shadi
15:03:52 <Zakim> -carlosV
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15:08:07 <shadi> zakim, drop crhis
15:08:07 <Zakim> sorry, shadi, I do not see a party named 'crhis'
15:08:20 <shadi> zakim, who is on the call?
15:08:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see Chris
15:08:27 <shadi> zakim, drop chris
15:08:27 <Zakim> Chris is being disconnected
15:08:29 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has ended
15:08:30 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, Chris, JohannesK, carlosV, Jim
15:08:34 <shadi> zakim, bye
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15:08:39 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
15:08:44 <shadi> rrsagent, make minutes
15:08:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/09/20-er-minutes.html shadi
15:08:45 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
15:08:51 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
15:08:51 <RRSAgent> I see no action items