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14:37:14 <ChrisW> Meeting: RIF Telecon 19 Sep 06
14:37:20 <ChrisW> Chair: Chris Welty
14:37:23 <ChrisW> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Sep/0044.html
14:37:29 <ChrisW> Regrets: MichaelSintek
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14:49:02 <ChrisW> rrsagent, make minutes
14:49:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-rif-minutes.html ChrisW
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14:57:59 <Zakim> +[NRCC]
14:58:15 <Zakim> +[IBM]
14:58:19 <Harold> zakim, [NRCC] is me
14:58:19 <Zakim> +Harold; got it
14:58:20 <Zakim> +Deborah_Nichols
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14:58:29 <ChrisW> zakim, [ibm] is temporarily me
14:58:29 <Zakim> +ChrisW; got it
14:58:35 <Francois> zakim, ??P12 is me.
14:58:35 <Zakim> +Francois; got it
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14:58:52 <ChrisW> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:58:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see Hassan_Ait-Kaci (muted), FrankMcCabe, Harold, ChrisW, Deborah_Nichols (muted), Francois
14:58:54 <Francois> zakim, mute me.
14:58:54 <Zakim> Francois should now be muted
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14:59:01 <Zakim> +Dave_Reynolds (was ??P15)
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15:00:01 <Zakim> +Sandro
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15:00:08 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
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15:00:20 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
15:00:21 <MoZ> Zakim, what is the code ?
15:00:22 <Zakim> the conference code is 74394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200), MoZ
15:00:22 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, +44.208.748.aaaa is me
15:00:22 <Zakim> +AlexKozlenkov; got it
15:00:29 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, mute me
15:00:29 <Zakim> AlexKozlenkov should now be muted
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15:00:42 <pfps> zakim, ??p20 is me
15:00:42 <Zakim> +pfps; got it
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15:00:57 <Zakim> +Allen_Ginsberg
15:00:58 <igor> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
15:01:03 <Zakim> +igor; got it
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15:01:39 <MoZ> Zakim, ? is me
15:01:39 <Zakim> +MoZ; got it
15:01:41 <LeoraMorgenstern> zakim, please mute me
15:01:43 <Zakim> Leora_Morgenstern should now be muted
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15:01:59 <ChrisW> MOZ, are you on the phone?
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15:02:08 <MoZ> ChrisW, yes
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15:02:59 <ChrisW> Scribe: MohamedZergaoui
15:03:07 <ChrisW> scribenick: MoZ
15:03:22 <Zakim> +PaulaP
15:03:26 <ChrisW> zakim, next agendum
15:03:26 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Admin" taken up
15:03:57 <Zakim> +Christian
15:04:01 <MoZ> Chris:Next meeting is 26th
15:04:02 <ChrisW> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Sep/att-0019/12-rif-minutes.html
15:04:10 <csma> zakim, christian is me
15:04:10 <Zakim> +csma; got it
15:04:21 <MoZ> Chris: minutes accepted
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15:04:40 <ChrisW> zakim, next agendum
15:04:40 <Zakim> agendum 7. "F2F4" taken up [from ChrisW]
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15:05:08 <MoZ> Peter : registration page is open
15:05:30 <Zakim> +Mala_Mehrotra
15:05:40 <MoZ> Peter: international fax number is available from now on
15:05:45 <Zakim> +Axel_Polleres
15:05:53 <Zakim> +??P43
15:05:55 <Harold> q+
15:06:01 <MoZ> Christian : Can we know who will be registred ?
15:06:08 <ChrisW> ack harold
15:06:11 <MoZ> Peter: I will give this information
15:06:14 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:06:16 <SaidTabet> zakim, ??P43 is me
15:06:16 <Zakim> +SaidTabet; got it
15:06:21 <SaidTabet> zakim, mute me
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15:06:23 <johnhall> zakim, ipcaller is me
15:06:23 <Zakim> +johnhall; got it
15:06:32 <ChrisW> 1.3 miles ~ 2 km
15:06:58 <MoZ> Peter : distance is about 2km/1.3 miles (3box by taxi)
15:08:02 <Zakim> +??P49
15:08:10 <MoZ> Peter : information about airpot and local transformation will be put on wiki
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15:08:39 <johnhall> zakim, mute me
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15:09:34 <MoZ> Peter : a lot of informaiton already available on ISWC website
15:09:42 <Zakim> -igor
15:09:44 <MoZ> s/informaiton/informations/
15:09:49 <ChrisW> zakim, next agendum
15:09:49 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Liaison" taken up
15:09:56 <csma> nothing on PRR
15:10:11 <ChrisW> zakim, close agendum 2
15:10:11 <Zakim> agendum 2, Liaison, closed
15:10:12 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:10:13 <Zakim> 3. Use Cases and Requirements
15:10:14 <ChrisW> zakim, next agendum
15:10:14 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Use Cases and Requirements" taken up
15:10:33 <johnhall> zakim, unmute me
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15:10:49 <csma> zakim, unmute me
15:10:50 <Zakim> csma should no longer be muted
15:10:51 <Allen> zakim, unmute me
15:10:51 <Zakim> Allen_Ginsberg should no longer be muted
15:10:59 <igor> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
15:10:59 <Zakim> +igor; got it
15:11:07 <MoZ> Chris : Christian to close his action
15:11:20 <MoZ> Christian : regarding action 9,  no comment
15:11:28 <polo> Zakim, ??P49 is me
15:11:28 <Zakim> +polo; got it
15:11:41 <polo> zakim, mute me
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15:12:23 <MoZ> Peter and Dave : no noticiable evolution on there action
15:12:33 <Zakim> +GiorgosStoilos
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15:13:06 <MoZ> Christian : Action 41 still open
15:13:29 <Zakim> +??P55
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15:13:37 <MoZ> Christian : With Donald see in OMG meeting
15:14:36 <MoZ> Christian : "do you think it will be useful something like this in UC&R" looking for an answer 
15:14:58 <MoZ> Chris : action open for christian to discuss next week
15:15:17 <MoZ> Chris : Leoro action 97 still open
15:15:24 <MoZ> s/Leoro/Leora/
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15:16:42 <MichaelKifer> zakim, mute me
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15:16:59 <johnhall> zakim, mute me
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15:17:14 <MoZ> Frank : two actions still open
15:17:56 <MoZ> Action 109 : done
15:19:11 <ChrisW> PROPOSED: to accept rewording of requirement XML types as proposed by 
15:19:11 <ChrisW> DaveR: [1] "XML Types - RIF must support an appropriate set of scalar 
15:19:11 <ChrisW> datatypes and associated operations as defined in XML Schema part 2 and 
15:19:11 <ChrisW> associated specifications." (issue 6.3)
15:19:12 <MoZ> Chris : Rewording of the requirement on XML ? 
15:19:42 <DavidHirtle> I'll get it
15:19:44 <MoZ> Requirement accepted
15:19:58 <ChrisW> action: allen to update xml types requirement in next WD
15:19:59 <rifbot> Created ACTION-113 - Update xml types requirement in next WD [on Allen Ginsberg - due 2006-09-26].
15:20:02 <csma> RESOLVED: to accept rewording of requirement XML type ...
15:20:54 <MoZ> Chris : Dave to take a look at Issue 5 
15:21:22 <Zakim> -Gary_Hallmark
15:21:42 <MoZ> Chris : to close 1 and 4
15:22:44 <DavidHirtle> DaveR - okay to leave the "see charter" comment at http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/UCR/Requirements#req-xml-types?
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15:23:19 <DavidHirtle> (I think it should stay)
15:23:28 <MoZ> Dave : issue 6.2 no conclusion for the moment
15:24:20 <MoZ> Christian : They do not exaclty the same, but we can merge them, depending of the level of detail
15:24:38 <Zakim> +Gary_Hallmark
15:24:51 <MoZ> Dave : do we make the distinction ?
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15:25:56 <ChrisW> q?
15:26:02 <MoZ> Chris : about implementability
15:26:10 <MoZ> Zakim, who is on the phone ?
15:26:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see Hassan_Ait-Kaci (muted), FrankMcCabe, Harold, ChrisW, Deborah_Nichols (muted), Francois (muted), Dave_Reynolds, AlexKozlenkov (muted), Sandro, pfps, MarkusK
15:26:14 <Zakim> ... (muted), Allen_Ginsberg, Leora_Morgenstern (muted), MoZ, Mike_Dean, DavidHirtle, PaulaP (muted), csma, Mala_Mehrotra, Axel_Polleres (muted), SaidTabet (muted), johnhall
15:26:17 <Zakim> ... (muted), polo (muted), igor, GiorgosStoilos, JeffP, MichaelKifer (muted), Gary_Hallmark
15:26:34 <MoZ> Zakim, who is talking ?
15:26:35 <Allen> Dave: so the action is done?
15:26:44 <Zakim> MoZ, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ChrisW (4%), igor (4%)
15:27:10 <igor> zakim, mute me
15:27:10 <Zakim> igor should now be muted
15:27:49 <MoZ> Christian : propose clarify the wording of the requirement about implementability
15:28:54 <ChrisW> action: chris to clarify distinction between implementability and standard components requirements
15:28:54 <rifbot> Created ACTION-114 - Clarify distinction between implementability and standard components requirements [on Chris Menzel - due 2006-09-26].
15:29:13 <Zakim> -Gary_Hallmark
15:29:24 <MoZ> Issue 6 depends on Action 114
15:29:44 <DaveReynolds> Action 114 is on ChrisW not ChrisM
15:30:11 <Zakim> +Gary_Hallmark
15:30:15 <MoZ> Issue 7 will be discussed next week
15:30:46 <MoZ> Issue 8 will be closed
15:30:47 <ChrisW> PROPOSED: to close issue 8
15:30:54 <ChrisW> RESOLVED: Close issue 8
15:31:23 <MoZ> Issue 22 : alan's proposal
15:31:42 <MoZ> Alan : look at original terminology, and send a email to the WG
15:32:18 <MoZ> Alan : take into account a slide from Christian 
15:32:52 <MoZ> s/Alan/Allen/
15:33:06 <csma> q+
15:33:22 <MoZ> Allen : i describe an alternative approche about 2 rulesets in the same model
15:33:27 <ChrisW> Allen's message: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Sep/0046.html
15:35:05 <ChrisW> ack csma
15:35:12 <csma> ack csma
15:35:39 <MoZ> Christian : do we need to have an official definition ?
15:36:59 <MoZ> Chris : cover is used in 4 requirements
15:37:35 <MoZ> Christian : propose to rephrase these requirements
15:40:00 <MoZ> Christian : features must exist to RIF, or each features must have the exact semantic of another language ?
15:40:11 <MoZ> s/to/into/
15:40:44 <Francois> +q
15:40:50 <Francois> +
15:41:02 <sandro> "q+", Francois 
15:41:03 <MoZ> Christian : cover for syntactic and one for transfering the semantic
15:41:11 <Francois> zakim, q+
15:41:11 <Zakim> I see Francois on the speaker queue
15:41:25 <MoZ> Christian : propose to abandon the word "cover"
15:41:47 <Francois> zakim, unmute me. 
15:41:47 <Zakim> Francois should no longer be muted
15:42:00 <csma> ack francoi
15:42:06 <sandro> Sandro: I think "coverage" is an important feature for users -- they want to know if their language/features are covered
15:42:26 <MoZ> Francois : distinguishing syntax and semantics is dangerous
15:43:29 <MoZ> Francois : do not want to keep the syntax
15:43:43 <MoZ> Christian : cannot separate the syntax and semantics
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15:44:13 <MoZ> Christian : the word cover should be taken at the feature level
15:44:29 <MoZ> ChrisW, I will have to go
15:45:00 <ChrisW> ok
15:46:12 <Zakim> -MoZ
15:46:14 <ChrisW> scribenick: axelpolleres
15:46:37 <Francois> zakim, mute me.
15:46:38 <Zakim> Francois should now be muted
15:46:40 <AxelPolleres> scribenick: AxelPolleres
15:46:52 <Harold> In http://www.debruijn.net/publications/msa-ruleml05.pdf (section 4 The Relationship Between Layers, page 9) there is a formal definition of Language extensions.
15:46:59 <Francois> +1 with both proposals.
15:47:39 <AxelPolleres> chrisW: read allen's email and comment until next week on coverage issue.
15:48:09 <AxelPolleres> chrisW: allen, remaing issues?
15:48:19 <DavidHirtle> q+
15:48:55 <Zakim> -SaidTabet
15:48:57 <DavidHirtle> q-
15:49:45 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: allen to post resolution for issues 3,4,13
15:49:45 <rifbot> Created ACTION-115 - Post resolution for issues 3,4,13 [on Allen Ginsberg - due 2006-09-26].
15:50:21 <DavidHirtle> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/UCR/Negotiating_eBusiness_Contracts_Across_Rule_Platforms
15:50:22 <DavidHirtle> q+
15:50:58 <AxelPolleres> chrisW: we still have to link Use Cases with requirements and vice versa.
15:50:59 <DavidHirtle> (see above for an example of links from use cases to reqs)
15:52:31 <ChrisW> ack david
15:52:32 <csma> ack davidh
15:52:37 <AxelPolleres> ... this will bethe main topic ffor next week!
15:53:07 <polo> polo has joined #rif
15:53:18 <AxelPolleres> s/bethe/be the/
15:54:37 <AxelPolleres> DavidHirtle&Allen: solicit for input to this discussion by the end of the week on the mailing list
15:54:44 <ChrisW> zakim, next agendum
15:54:44 <Zakim> agendum 4. "RIF-RAF" taken up
15:54:48 <Allen> zakim, mute me
15:54:48 <Zakim> Allen_Ginsberg should now be muted
15:54:48 <AxelPolleres> topic: RIFRAF
15:55:45 <AxelPolleres> Hassan: meeting on action http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/actions/87
15:56:02 <AxelPolleres> ... this is about variables.
15:56:22 <AxelPolleres> Action: write response to Christian's proposal, asking for clarifications where necessary [CONTINUED]
15:56:22 <rifbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - write
15:56:24 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, unmute me
15:56:24 <Zakim> AlexKozlenkov should no longer be muted
15:57:03 <AxelPolleres> Action: Alex to record questionnaire answers for JBoss and XUL in an email [CONTINUED]
15:57:03 <rifbot> Created ACTION-116 - Record questionnaire answers for JBoss and XUL in an email [CONTINUED] [on Alex Kozlenkov - due 2006-09-26].
15:57:05 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, mute me
15:57:05 <Zakim> AlexKozlenkov should now be muted
15:57:41 <AxelPolleres> Action: Axel to make a wiki page on negation [DONE]
15:57:41 <rifbot> Created ACTION-117 - Make a wiki page on negation [DONE] [on Axel Polleres - due 2006-09-26].
15:57:57 <Francois> zakim, bye. 
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15:57:57 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Hassan_Ait-Kaci, FrankMcCabe, Harold, Deborah_Nichols, ChrisW, Francois, Dave_Reynolds, Sandro, AlexKozlenkov, pfps, Allen_Ginsberg,
15:58:01 <Zakim> ... igor, MarkusK, Leora_Morgenstern, PaulaP, MoZ, Mike_Dean, DavidHirtle, csma, Gary_Hallmark, Mala_Mehrotra, Axel_Polleres, SaidTabet, johnhall, polo, GiorgosStoilos, JeffP,
15:58:04 <Zakim> ... MichaelKifer
15:58:17 <AxelPolleres> q+
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15:58:46 <ChrisW> q?
15:58:48 <sandro> zakim, who is here?
15:58:48 <Zakim> sorry, sandro, I don't know what conference this is
15:58:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see polo, GaryHallmark, JosD, MalaMehrotra, MichaelKifer, JeffP, GiorgosStoilos, AxelPolleres, DavidHirtle, csma, StanDevitt, Allen, johnhall, igor, pfps, AlexKozlenkov,
15:58:54 <sandro> zakim, this is rif
15:58:54 <Zakim> ... LeoraMorgenstern, Deborah_Nichols, MarkusK, DaveReynolds, Hassan, FrankMcCabe, PaulaP, Harold, RRSAgent, ChrisW, mdean, MoZ, sandro, rifbot
15:58:56 <Zakim> ok, sandro; that matches SW_RIF()11:00AM
15:59:00 <sandro> zakim, who is here?
15:59:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see Hassan_Ait-Kaci (muted), FrankMcCabe, Harold, ChrisW, Deborah_Nichols (muted), Dave_Reynolds, AlexKozlenkov (muted), Sandro, pfps, MarkusK (muted),
15:59:03 <csma> ack axel
15:59:03 <AxelPolleres> you can't hear me?
15:59:04 <Zakim> ... Allen_Ginsberg (muted), Leora_Morgenstern (muted), Mike_Dean, DavidHirtle, PaulaP (muted), csma, Mala_Mehrotra, Axel_Polleres (muted), johnhall (muted), polo (muted), igor
15:59:07 <Zakim> ... (muted), GiorgosStoilos, JeffP, MichaelKifer (muted), Gary_Hallmark
15:59:09 <AxelPolleres> :-(
15:59:09 <Zakim> On IRC I see polo, GaryHallmark, JosD, MalaMehrotra, MichaelKifer, JeffP, GiorgosStoilos, AxelPolleres, DavidHirtle, csma, StanDevitt, Allen, johnhall, igor, pfps, AlexKozlenkov,
15:59:14 <Zakim> ... LeoraMorgenstern, Deborah_Nichols, MarkusK, DaveReynolds, Hassan, FrankMcCabe, PaulaP, Harold, RRSAgent, ChrisW, mdean, MoZ, sandro, rifbot
16:00:11 <FrankMcCabe> q+
16:00:48 <csma> ack frankm
16:00:53 <AxelPolleres> AxelPolleres: What about updates of the questionnaire?
16:01:07 <AxelPolleres> ... on types.
16:01:28 <AxelPolleres> ChrisW: Postpone further changes 2 weeks due to other urgent deadlines.
16:01:57 <ChrisW> zakim, next agendum
16:01:59 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
16:02:00 <Zakim> -polo
16:02:25 <AxelPolleres> ... decide how to move forward then (whether to stay with questionnaire or another possibility, e.g. discriminators ontology in OWL)
16:02:54 <AxelPolleres> Topic: Technical design
16:03:29 <AxelPolleres> Action: Harold to start new wiki page on the core language to include Peter's proposal modulo changes we discussed [continued]
16:03:29 <rifbot> Created ACTION-118 - Start new wiki page on the core language to include Peter\'s proposal modulo changes we discussed [continued] [on Harold Boley - due 2006-09-26].
16:04:21 <MichaelKifer> zakim, unmute me
16:04:21 <Zakim> MichaelKifer should no longer be muted
16:04:48 <AxelPolleres> Action: 111 [done]
16:04:48 <rifbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 111
16:04:54 <Hassan> q+
16:04:59 <AxelPolleres> Action: 112 [DONE]
16:04:59 <rifbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 112
16:06:56 <AxelPolleres> ChrisW: discussion on mail on action 110.
16:07:13 <AxelPolleres> ... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Sep/0051
16:07:44 <ChrisW> ack hassan
16:07:46 <csma> ack hass
16:07:46 <AxelPolleres> ChrisW: Seems like we have consensus on the core of condition language.
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16:09:23 <AxelPolleres> Hassan: I will post URI on rewriter for basic conditions/XML.
16:09:23 <ChrisW> zakim, who is talking?
16:09:34 <Zakim> ChrisW, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (14%), pfps (4%), MichaelKifer (32%)
16:11:36 <csma> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/B.1_Horn_Rules
16:12:56 <AxelPolleres> Hassan et al.: continue discussions on heads (from XML syntaxpoint of view)
16:14:58 <AxelPolleres> Hassan: Issues: scope, variales, global variables, heads, etc.
16:15:05 <AxelPolleres> csma: actions?
16:15:46 <AxelPolleres> Hassan: Prepares a document on these issues.
16:16:19 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Hassan to post a mail or set up a wiki page on outlining the issues. 
16:16:20 <rifbot> Created ACTION-119 - Post a mail or set up a wiki page on outlining the issues.  [on Hassan Ait-Kaci - due 2006-09-26].
16:16:34 <ChrisW> zakim, who is talking?
16:16:45 <Zakim> ChrisW, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (5%), csma (55%), MichaelKifer (4%)
16:16:45 <AxelPolleres> s/issues/issues on XML syntax/
16:17:05 <Harold> q+
16:17:26 <csma> ack harold
16:17:37 <AxelPolleres> ChrisW: when will we have a new wiki page done?
16:17:50 <AxelPolleres> Harold: in one week.
16:18:26 <AxelPolleres> Harold: points out focus on phase 1.
16:18:37 <ChrisW> q?
16:18:45 <AxelPolleres> ChrisW: more comments on Technical design?
16:19:21 <AxelPolleres> csma: Issue: how do we specify the "dataset" of the rules?
16:19:52 <JeffP> +1
16:19:53 <Hassan> +1
16:19:55 <PaulaP> +1
16:20:10 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: csma to send a mail on issue: "how do we specify the 'dataset' of the rules"
16:20:10 <rifbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - csma
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16:20:29 <AxelPolleres> ChrisW: Let's be sure to talk about f2f5 next week!
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16:21:24 <ChrisW> zakim, bye
16:21:24 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Hassan_Ait-Kaci, FrankMcCabe, Harold, Deborah_Nichols, ChrisW, Francois, Dave_Reynolds, Sandro, AlexKozlenkov, pfps, Allen_Ginsberg,
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16:21:31 <ChrisW> rrsagent, make minutes
16:21:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-rif-minutes.html ChrisW