IRC log of htmltf on 2006-09-19

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Meeting: Weekly RDF in HTML Task Force
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CHair: Ben
13:11:44 [EliasT]
Chair: benadida
13:12:09 [Steven]
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Steven: F2F with HTML WG last week, briefly cover RDFa
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... nothing significant to report on this front.
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... HTML WG is behind the TF
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Ben: in last call?
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Steven: soon
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Ben: namespace URI for XHTML2?
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Steven: continue to use the XHTML1 namespace? problem with # or / at the end
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Ben: how does that work with new elements?
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Steven: nothing wrong with adding new elements to namespace
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MarkB: 83261 (a new temp one)
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Elias: no change in semantics in any of the existing elements?
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Steven: namespaces don't define content model, only disambiguate which elements you're talking about
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Elias: won't the browser makers complain about how to differentiate between XHTML1 and XHTML2?
13:17:10 [benadida]
Steven: not what the namespace is for. There is discussion around here.
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13:17:36 [MarkB_]
zakim, i am ?
13:17:36 [Zakim]
+MarkB_; got it
13:17:39 [benadida]
... namespace spec does not spec that namespaces should be used to decide how to process
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Elias: are implementors on the WG?
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Steven: yes some, there may be a version attribute to differentiate the versions
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Ben: is there a change in the MIME type?
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Steven: the base MIME type stays the same
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... profile can help differentiate between diff versions of XHTML
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Elias: is profile in XHTML2?
13:19:36 [Steven]
it's in the media type
13:20:26 [benadida]
Steven: the profile is in the media type, not in the document
13:21:20 [benadida]
... have to use the longer media type for XHTML2
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MarkB: won't run out of space here
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Elias: yes, but it doesn't seem like the most practical thing to do
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MarkB: this discussion has been quite long
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Elias: I would imagine others are having the same objections, this direction seems awkward
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Steven: already used on mobile
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Elias: not much code out there for this, e.g. python script that outputs the headers myself
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... no library with the proper header output
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MarkB: maybe this should be abstracted out,
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Elias: from my perspective of coding this up, this seems more complicated
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... very little code to do mime type parameters
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... in the end, end-users don't need this, of course, but worried about adoption by developers
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Ben: sample XHTML2 document + headers and all?
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Steven: not yet, but we should have one
13:25:35 [MarkB_]
Ben: Elias isn't saying it's more complicated, just that it's more to type.
13:26:10 [benadida]
ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc..
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Steven: discussion about CURIEs and bnodes came up
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13:27:09 [Steven]
member only
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ACTION: All TF members take a look and comment on showstopper issues only
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13:34:10 [benadida]
ACTION: Ben answer Dan's follow-your-nose comment
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13:45:50 [benadida]
ACTION: find Elias's question and link to relevant discussion in the past
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s/find/Ben to find/
13:58:28 [Steven]
That means Monday for me
13:58:33 [Steven]
Weds and Fri already taken
13:59:19 [benadida]
Possibilities: Friday 9am, Monday 9,10,11,
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no on Monday 11
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next meeting: Monday, Sep. 25th, 9am
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1300 UTC
14:01:26 [RalphS]
hey, sorry, folks; I never put this in my calendar for today :(
14:01:56 [benadida]
going over actions:
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14:02:02 [Steven]
ralph, call moved to next monday
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ACTION: Mark add words about anonymous nodes to CURIE editors' draft
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OK with you? 13UTC
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14:02:17 [RalphS]
Monday 1300Z will be a squeeze for me but I think I can do it
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ACTION: Ben make sure RDFA bookmarklet runs locally
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14:02:48 [RalphS]
I won't be able to do Mondays 1300Z on a regular basis though
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ACTION: Ben start separate mail threads on remaining discussion topics
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ACTION: Ben update the issues list
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ACTION: Ben write a prototype hGRDDL profile for XHTML 1
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Ben: GRDDL WG receptive RDFa
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... still working on convincing WG on the specific use case of hGRDDL
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ACTION: Mark contact folk about connecting with our work
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ACTION: put together Lee and Elias's emails into the issues list
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s/put/Ben to put/
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Team_(htmltf)13:06Z has ended
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Attendees were Steven, EliasT, benadida, MarkB_
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate benadida
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