IRC log of ws-policy-eds on 2006-08-30

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18:06:05 [prasad]
zakim, who is here?
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On the phone I see DOrchard, Toufic_Boubez, ??P2
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On IRC I see RRSAgent, dorchard, Zakim, toufic, prasad, asir, fsasaki
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zakim, ??P2 is prasad
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+prasad; got it
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+Felix
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zakim, who's here?
18:09:32 [Zakim]
On the phone I see DOrchard, Toufic_Boubez, prasad, Felix
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On IRC I see dorchard, RRSAgent, Zakim, toufic, prasad, asir, fsasaki
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+[Microsoft]
18:12:08 [asir]
Scribe: Asir S Vedamuthu
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ScribeNick: asir
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Meeting: WS-Policy Editors' Conference Call
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Chair: Dave Orchard
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-eds/2006Aug/0097.html and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-eds/2006Aug/0100.html
18:12:20 [prasad]
/me what is this? editors to remove [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/30-ws-policy-minutes.html#action02]
18:12:32 [asir]
Present: Asir, Dave, Prasad, Toufic, Felix
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Topic: Administrative
18:13:48 [asir]
next week chair is Maryann
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next week scribe is DaveO
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next week reporter is DaveO
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Topic: Where are we?
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Asir thanks DaveO for summarizing the actions
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Dave: if the current chair could summarize the actions this will help the reporter for the week
18:17:20 [asir]
2 set of actions: first one - old ones changed state or not done - second one - new ones from last week
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s/set/sets/
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q+
18:24:25 [asir]
[there is some confusion on what is the starting point for the primer]
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Toufic suggest that we take this up to the WG
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Asir: we don't have any new data to discuss the coordination
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Dave: editorial team is to carry out the will of the WG - substantive issues should be done by the WG
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Toufic suggest asking for clarification
18:26:40 [plh]
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18:28:47 [asir]
Dave: ask the WG
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ACTION: Dave to raise a WG issue regarding primer and guidelines document work
18:29:49 [toufic]
zakim [IBM] is maryann
18:30:12 [asir]
Dave: what is the timeline for the guidelines document?
18:31:52 [asir]
Maryann: a concrete proposal will be available before or at the second F2F for the WG
18:32:51 [asir]
Dave: to request the chairs to provide us the will of the WG on the primer and guidelines documents
18:33:15 [asir]
[PENDING] ACTION: editors to discuss coordination between white paper work and primer work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/16-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html#action04]
18:33:33 [asir]
[PENDING] ACTION: W3C staff contact to automate generation of diff for WS-Policy by deploying the diffmk tool and updating he build.xml etc. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/16-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html#action05]
18:33:44 [asir]
ETA - this will be done by Friday
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[PENDING] ACTION: Dave to own
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http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-minutes.html#action01 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/03-ws-policy-minutes.html#action06]
18:34:50 [asir]
[xml spec discussion - html generation]
18:36:09 [prasad]
Felix sebt an email reg. diff automation today: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-eds/2006Aug/0102.html
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s/sebt/sent/
18:36:43 [asir]
Dave and Felix will add the automated terminology section
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Topic: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/13-ws-policy-minutes.html#action10
18:37:40 [asir]
Dave: the use of the word domain is very confusing
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... assertion being domain and assertion specific
18:38:12 [asir]
... why don't we get rid of domain
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... not aware of the history though
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Maryann: historial - domain was an attempt to group assertions
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... there may be implications in the doc that we need to think before we take action
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Dave: to reduce the usage of term 'domain'
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s/term/ the term/
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Maryann: suggests creating a proposal that is agnosti
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[PENDING] ACTION: Maryann to propose wording for
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http://www.w3.org/2006/07/13-ws-policy-minutes.html#action10
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[PENDING] ACTION: Maryann to propose wording for
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http://www.w3.org/2006/07/13-ws-policy-minutes.html#action15
18:43:37 [prasad]
Topic: ACTIONS from 8/23 meetings
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[DONE] ACTION: Editors to apply proposal part 1, document attribute extensbility of wsp:Policy/@{any} and wsp:Policy/.../wsp:PolicyReference/@{any}
18:44:18 [asir]
[DONE] [NEW] ACTION: Editors to add empty sections for Conformance in WS-Policy and WS-PolicyAttachment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/23-ws-policy-minutes.html#action03]
18:45:19 [asir]
[DONE] ACTION: Editors to add empty sections for Conformance in WS-Policy and WS-PolicyAttachment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/23-ws-policy-minutes.html#action03]
18:45:46 [asir]
[DONE] ACTION: Toufic to own
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http://www.w3.org/2006/08/23-ws-policy-minutes.html#action03
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[DONE] ACTION: Prasda to own
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http://www.w3.org/2006/08/23-ws-policy-minutes.html#action12
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[DONE ACTION: Prasad to own
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http://www.w3.org/2006/08/23-ws-policy-minutes.html#action08
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[DONE] ACTION: Asir to own
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http://www.w3.org/2006/08/23-ws-policy-minutes.html#action06
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[PENDING] ACTION: Toufic to own
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http://www.w3.org/2006/08/23-ws-policy-minutes.html#action01
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[PENDING] ACTION: Dave Orchard to review MAryann's proposed wording for
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http://www.w3.org/2006/07/13-ws-policy-minutes.html#action15
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[PENDING] ACTION: Toufic to review the wording from Maryann for
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http://www.w3.org/2006/07/27-ws-policy-minutes.html#action03
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TOPIC: New Editorial Actions
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ACTION: Dave to own http://www.w3.org/2006/08/30-ws-policy-minutes.html#action10
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ACTION: Dave to own http://www.w3.org/2006/08/30-ws-policy-minutes.html#action03
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Action: Dave to own http://www.w3.org/2006/08/30-ws-policy-minutes.html#action02
18:53:40 [asir]
Consensus to move 'policy expression' def to Section 1 Introduction
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Topic: Tracker
18:54:59 [asir]
It is http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicyeds/
18:56:48 [asir]
Dave: change log in the WG - let's use the links to WG tracker actions
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Asir: agrees ..
18:57:14 [prasad]
s/the WG/the spec/
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Then go to the WG tracker and close the associated actions
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Asir: suggest using links to eds tracker for future agendas
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Toufic: tracker is magic
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Topic: F2F editors' draft drop
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Asir: target - Sept 5th
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For this drop: daveo actions from today will be done on time
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... terminology extraction may be
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... Toufic's 3605 will be done
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... Maryann's work will be postponed for later
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-maryann
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... diff by Felix
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... deadline for changes - EOD Thursday
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... DaveO to deliver editors' drafts to the WG on Tuesday
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... Asir to prepare the tagged version of editors' drafts
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... Felix to let Asir know when to tag
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s/tag/tag files in CVS/
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Topic: Adjourned
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bye
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-DOrchard
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-Toufic_Boubez
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-Plh
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-Felix
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-prasad
19:05:51 [asir]
rrsagent, please show the actions
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I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/30-ws-policy-eds-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Dave to raise a WG issue regarding primer and guidelines document work [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/30-ws-policy-eds-irc#T18-29-38
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ACTION: Dave to own http://www.w3.org/2006/08/30-ws-policy-minutes.html#action10 [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/30-ws-policy-eds-irc#T18-48-20
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ACTION: Dave to own http://www.w3.org/2006/08/30-ws-policy-minutes.html#action03 [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/30-ws-policy-eds-irc#T18-49-11
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ACTION: Dave to own http://www.w3.org/2006/08/30-ws-policy-minutes.html#action02 [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/08/30-ws-policy-eds-irc#T18-49-32
19:05:51 [asir]
rrsagent, please set these logs world-visible
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/30-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html asir
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disconnecting the lone participant, asir, in WS_Policy(editors)2:00PM
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WS_Policy(editors)2:00PM has ended
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Attendees were DOrchard, Toufic_Boubez, prasad, Felix, asir, [IBM], Plh, maryann
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Present: Asir, Dave, Maryann, Prasad, Toufic, Felix
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/30-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html asir
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