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19:49:38 <ben_> RRSAgent, do not start a new log
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19:49:54 <ben_> Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
19:50:10 <ben_> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006JulSep/0077.html
19:50:16 <ben_> Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden and Loretta_Guarino_Reid
19:50:40 <ben_> ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly
19:51:45 <ben_> agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates
19:51:50 <ben_> agenda+ Team C Survey <http://tinyurl.com/onjlm/>
19:51:55 <ben_> agenda+ Team B Survey <http://tinyurl.com/heoly>
19:52:00 <ben_> agenda+ Team A Survey <http://tinyurl.com/legl5>
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20:00:17 <ben> zakim, list conferences
20:00:17 <Zakim> I see W3C_(Chevron)2:30PM, WAI_WCAG()3:00PM active
20:00:19 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time are RWC_WAF(F2F)9:00AM, VB_VBWG(SIV)4:00PM, XML_QueryWG(ttf)3:00PM, WAI_UAWG()2:00PM
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20:00:44 <ben> zakim, this is WAI_WCAG
20:00:44 <Zakim> ok, ben; that matches WAI_WCAG()3:00PM
20:00:49 <ben> zakim, who's on the phone?
20:00:49 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.706.324.aaaa, ??P3, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Bruce_Bailey
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20:01:05 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
20:01:10 <ben> zakim, 1.706.324.aaa is Andi_Snow-Weaver
20:01:10 <Zakim> sorry, ben, I do not recognize a party named '1.706.324.aaa'
20:01:19 <Zakim> +Sofia_Celic
20:01:30 <ben> zakim, 1.706.324.aaaa
20:01:30 <Zakim> I don't understand '1.706.324.aaaa', ben
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20:01:40 <ben> zakim, 1.706.324.aaaa is Andi-Snow-Weaver
20:01:40 <Zakim> sorry, ben, I do not recognize a party named '1.706.324.aaaa'
20:01:42 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:01:43 <Makoto> zakim, [IPcaller] is Makoto_Ueki
20:01:43 <Zakim> +Makoto_Ueki; got it
20:01:46 <ben> zakim, who's on the phone?
20:01:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.706.324.aaaa, ??P3, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Bruce_Bailey, David_MacDonald, Sofia_Celic (muted), Makoto_Ueki
20:02:01 <Zakim> +Becky_Gibson
20:02:04 <ben> zakim, +1.706.324.aaaa is Andi-Snow-Weaver
20:02:04 <Zakim> +Andi-Snow-Weaver; got it
20:02:23 <ben> zakim, ??P3 is Gregg_and_Ben
20:02:23 <Zakim> +Gregg_and_Ben; got it
20:02:25 <Zakim> +??P9
20:03:03 <ben> zakim, ??P9 is Sorcha_Moore
20:03:03 <Zakim> +Sorcha_Moore; got it
20:03:05 <Zakim> +Judy
20:03:09 <ben> zakim, who's on the phone?
20:03:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see Andi-Snow-Weaver, Gregg_and_Ben, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Bruce_Bailey, David_MacDonald, Sofia_Celic (muted), Makoto_Ueki, Becky_Gibson, Sorcha_Moore, Judy
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20:03:30 <becka11y> zakim, I am becky_gibson
20:03:30 <Zakim> ok, becka11y, I now associate you with Becky_Gibson
20:03:42 <Zakim> +Alex_Li
20:04:07 <becka11y> scribe: becka11y
20:04:45 <ben> zakim, take up agendum 1
20:04:45 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from ben_]
20:05:28 <Zakim> +??P12
20:05:41 <rellero_> zakim, ??P12 is Roberto_Ellero
20:05:41 <Zakim> +Roberto_Ellero; got it
20:05:48 <rellero_> zakim, mute me
20:05:48 <Zakim> sorry, rellero_, I do not see a party named 'rellero_'
20:05:58 <rellero_> zakim, mute Roberto_Ellero
20:05:58 <Zakim> Roberto_Ellero should now be muted
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20:09:46 <Zakim> +??P2
20:10:06 <ben> zakim, ??P2 is Cynthia_Shelly
20:10:06 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly; got it
20:10:32 <ben> zakim, close this item
20:10:32 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
20:10:34 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
20:10:35 <Zakim> 2. Team C Survey <http://tinyurl.com/onjlm/> [from ben_]
20:10:37 <ben> zakim, take up agendum 2
20:10:37 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Team C Survey <http://tinyurl.com/onjlm/>" taken up [from ben_]
20:10:53 <becka11y> Topic: team c survey, item LC-668
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20:11:29 <becka11y> Resolution:  LC-668  accepted as proposed (with type correction) by unanimous concent.  
20:11:39 <becka11y> Topic: item LC-669
20:11:54 <becka11y> Resolution:  LC-669  accepted as proposed  by unanimous concent. 
20:12:06 <becka11y> Topic: item LC-670
20:13:09 <becka11y> Resolution:  LC-670  accepted with amended first sentence.  
20:13:21 <becka11y> Topic: item LC-673
20:13:39 <becka11y> Resolution: refer LC-673 back to team c
20:14:09 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:14:25 <becka11y> Topic: item LC-674
20:15:38 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:16:18 <David_MacDonald> q+
20:17:00 <ben> q+
20:17:55 <ben> ack David
20:18:15 <Loretta> q+
20:20:17 <Zakim> +??P13
20:20:23 <ben> ack ben
20:20:34 <Zakim> +Christopher_Strobbe
20:20:38 <Loretta> q-
20:21:20 <ben> zakim, ??P13 is Katie_Haritos-Shea
20:21:20 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea; got it
20:22:02 <becka11y> q+
20:22:08 <judy> zakim, who's on the phone?
20:22:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see Andi-Snow-Weaver, Gregg_and_Ben, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, David_MacDonald, Sofia_Celic (muted), Makoto_Ueki, Becky_Gibson, Sorcha_Moore, Judy (muted), Alex_Li,
20:22:11 <Zakim> ... Roberto_Ellero (muted), Cynthia_Shelly, Bruce_Bailey, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Christopher_Strobbe
20:24:01 <becka11y> ack bec
20:24:14 <becka11y> Resolution: LC-674 refer back to team c, since we already have a failure about using a table to change the meaning (F49). This probably needs a better name and should be referred to in the response. David to contact team c for a possible additional technique about complex layout tables.    
20:24:24 <becka11y> Topic: LC-675
20:25:37 <Gregg> ack b
20:26:38 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:27:01 <becka11y> Resolution: LC-675 accepted with Ben's ammendments.
20:27:26 <becka11y> Action: team c to add user agent support notes to technique H44 and H65
20:27:28 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:27:34 <becka11y> Topic: LC-676
20:30:53 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
20:31:54 <becka11y> Resolution:  Add Technique H65 as a sufficient technique for 3.2.4 item #1. 
20:32:51 <becka11y> Resolution: LC-676 accepted as proposed.
20:33:24 <becka11y> Topic: LC-677
20:34:18 <becka11y> Resolution: LC-677accepted with edits from Christophe and Becky.
20:34:39 <becka11y> Topic: LC-682
20:35:08 <becka11y> Resolution: LC-682 accepted with edits from Gregg. 
20:35:17 <becka11y> Topic: LC-763
20:36:16 <becka11y> Resolution:  LC-763 accepted with unanimous consent.
20:36:37 <becka11y> Topic: LC-875
20:39:36 <becka11y> Action:  Bruce B to create a technique for using data tables to help identify form controls in a form.
20:39:56 <becka11y> Resolution:  LC-875 accepted as proposed.
20:40:01 <Zakim> -Andi-Snow-Weaver
20:40:13 <becka11y> Topic: Team B survey - first question
20:40:19 <ben> zakim, close this item
20:40:19 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
20:40:20 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
20:40:21 <Zakim> 3. Team B Survey <http://tinyurl.com/heoly> [from ben_]
20:40:23 <ben> zakim, take up agendum 3
20:40:23 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Team B Survey <http://tinyurl.com/heoly>" taken up [from ben_]
20:42:47 <ben> ack alex
20:47:30 <becka11y> Resolution:  First question on team b survey about adding a disclaimer about resources: Add  to  each resources section in understanding and Techniques:  “Resources are for information purposes only, no endorsement is implied.“
20:47:42 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:47:50 <becka11y> Topic: LC-701
20:48:36 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:52:37 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:52:58 <becka11y> Resolution:  Send LC-701 back to team b to review the survey suggestions.
20:53:12 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:54:34 <becka11y> Resolution: Accept the following items, 703, 834, 860, 1051, 1126, 1135, 1139, 1297, 1327,1400, where there was unanimous consent in the survey.
20:55:04 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:55:11 <becka11y> Topic: LC-704, LC-1103
20:55:39 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
21:02:53 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
21:04:07 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
21:05:46 <becka11y> Resolution: LC-704, LC-1103 – accepted with Christophe’s  amendment to change the applicability and to update the response to point out the advisory technique for using no frames in SC 4.2.1. 
21:05:51 <becka11y> Topic: LC-705
21:08:39 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
21:09:23 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
21:10:16 <becka11y> Resolution: LC-705 – accept Christophe’s editorial amendment and Add to each technique that it is one of a series of techniques for locating content and include each of the other techniques in the related techniques section ( for the techniques sufficient for 2.4.2 ). 
21:10:23 <becka11y> Topic: LC-779
21:11:46 <becka11y> Resolution: LC-779 accepted as amended to include the actions taken to address the comment  within the response.  
21:11:57 <becka11y> Topic: LC-915
21:16:01 <ben> zakim, who's making noise?
21:16:15 <Zakim> ben, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Loretta_Guarino_Reid (77%), Makoto_Ueki (24%), Becky_Gibson (54%), Tim_Boland (10%)
21:16:34 <ben> zakim, mute Makoto
21:16:34 <Zakim> Makoto_Ueki should now be muted
21:18:02 <ben> zakim, who's making noise?
21:18:13 <Zakim> ben, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Bruce_Bailey (4%), Loretta_Guarino_Reid (25%), Gregg_and_Ben (29%), Becky_Gibson (33%)
21:19:18 <ben> zakim, who's making noise?
21:19:29 <Zakim> ben, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Loretta_Guarino_Reid (19%), Gregg_and_Ben (86%), Becky_Gibson (67%), Tim_Boland (56%)
21:19:37 <ben> zakim, mute Tim
21:19:37 <Zakim> Tim_Boland should now be muted
21:19:58 <becka11y> Resolution:  LC-915 send back to team b to work with Becky to add examples and to also add “available to the user” to 3.1.4 and 3.1.6 as well.  
21:20:05 <becka11y> Topic: LC-969
21:32:38 <becka11y> Resolution: LC-969 sent back to team b to clarify with the commenter.
21:32:43 <becka11y> Topic: LC-972
21:38:23 <becka11y> Resolution: LC-972 accept as amended. 
21:38:36 <Christophe> zakim, mute me
21:38:36 <Zakim> Christopher_Strobbe should now be muted
21:38:46 <becka11y> Topic: LC-1111
21:39:28 <becka11y> Resolution: LC-1111 with the amended example title.
21:40:06 <becka11y> Ammended Resolution: ACCEPT LC-1111 with the amended example title.
21:40:25 <becka11y> Topic: LC-1132
21:42:11 <Zakim> -Roberto_Ellero
21:45:48 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
21:48:09 <becka11y> Resolution: LC-1132 accepted as amended.  
21:48:19 <becka11y> Topic: LC-1137
21:50:05 <Christophe> zakim, unmute me
21:50:05 <Zakim> Christopher_Strobbe should no longer be muted
21:51:27 <becka11y> Resolution: LC-1137 accepted as amended.
21:51:35 <becka11y> Topic: LC-1377
21:54:19 <becka11y> Resolution: LC-1177 accepted as amended.
21:54:26 <becka11y> Topic: LC-1382
21:55:11 <Makoto> zakim, unmute me
21:55:11 <Zakim> Makoto_Ueki should no longer be muted
21:56:22 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
21:57:01 <becka11y> Action: Makoto to verify that the Japanese examples in the glossary, G101 and G112 use the correct grammar and inform Ben. 
21:57:30 <becka11y> Resolution: LC-1382 accepted as proposed
21:58:56 <ben> zakim, close this item
21:58:56 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
21:58:57 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
21:58:59 <Zakim> 4. Team A Survey <http://tinyurl.com/legl5> [from ben_]
21:59:04 <ben> zakim, take up agendum 4
21:59:04 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Team A Survey <http://tinyurl.com/legl5>" taken up [from ben_]
21:59:13 <becka11y> Topic:  Team A survey
21:59:15 <becka11y> LC-603, LC-792, LC-854, LC-940, LC-1062, LC-1164, LC-1224
21:59:25 <becka11y> Resolution: Accept team a survey items which has unanimous consent:  LC-603, LC-792, LC-854, LC-940, LC-1062, LC-1164, LC-1224
21:59:47 <becka11y> Topic: LC-912
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22:01:36 <ben> zakim, who's making noise?
22:01:46 <Zakim> ben, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Cynthia_Shelly (19%), Gregg_and_Ben (83%), Makoto_Ueki (31%), Becky_Gibson (58%), Katie_Haritos-Shea (6%)
22:02:01 <Makoto> zakim, mute me
22:02:01 <Zakim> Makoto_Ueki should now be muted
22:09:21 <becka11y> Resolution: LC-912  referred back to team a to consider adding interactive into the SC:  “All <ins>interactive</ins> user interface components..... “
22:09:35 <becka11y> Topic: LC-1442
22:09:35 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
22:09:37 <becka11y> Resolution:  LC-1442  referred back to team a to review the survey comments. 
22:09:44 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
22:09:45 <Zakim> -Becky_Gibson
22:09:46 <Zakim> -Makoto_Ueki
22:09:47 <Zakim> -Sofia_Celic
22:09:48 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
22:09:50 <Zakim> -Sorcha_Moore
22:09:51 <Zakim> -Gregg_and_Ben
22:09:53 <Zakim> -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
22:09:54 <Zakim> -Christopher_Strobbe
22:09:59 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
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22:10:07 <ben>  
22:10:07 <ben> Present:  Andi-Snow-Weaver, Gregg_VAnderheiden, Ben_Caldwell, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, David_MacDonald, Sofia_Celic, Makoto_Ueki, Becky_Gibson, Sorcha_Moore, Judy_Brewer, Alex_Li, Roberto_Ellero, Cynthia_Shelly, Bruce_Bailey, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland
22:10:10 <Zakim> -Judy
22:10:12 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
22:10:13 <Zakim> Attendees were Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Bruce_Bailey, David_MacDonald, Sofia_Celic, Makoto_Ueki, Becky_Gibson, Andi-Snow-Weaver, Gregg_and_Ben, Sorcha_Moore, Judy, Alex_Li,
22:10:16 <Zakim> ... Roberto_Ellero, Cynthia_Shelly, Christopher_Strobbe, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Tim_Boland
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22:13:45 <ben> RRSAgent, pointer?
22:13:45 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2006/08/03-wai-wcag-irc#T22-13-45
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