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14:54:01 <sandro> rrsagent, pointer?
14:54:01 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2006/08/01-rif-irc#T14-54-01
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14:55:28 <sandro> zakim, this will be rif
14:55:28 <Zakim> ok, sandro; I see SW_RIF()11:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
14:55:41 <sandro> Chair: SandroHawke
14:55:46 <sandro> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:55:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/01-rif-minutes.html sandro
14:55:56 <sandro> rrsagent, make record public
14:56:10 <sandro> sandro has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Jul/0047.html
14:56:41 <sandro> zakim, who is here?
14:56:42 <Zakim> SW_RIF()11:00AM has not yet started, sandro
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14:56:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, sandro, mdean, DavidHirtle, Harold
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14:58:18 <Zakim> +Sandro
14:59:42 <FrankMcCabe> zakim, what is the code?
14:59:42 <Zakim> the conference code is 74394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200), FrankMcCabe
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15:01:02 <Harold> zakim,  +[NRCC] is me
15:01:02 <Zakim> sorry, Harold, I do not recognize a party named '+[NRCC]'
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15:01:06 <sandro> Deborah_Nichols, are you available to Scribe?  I think it's your turn (of the people likely to be here today).
15:01:11 <Zakim> +Deborah_Nichols
15:01:16 <Harold>  zakim,  [NRCC] is me
15:01:16 <Zakim> +Harold; got it
15:01:19 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, mute me
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15:01:46 <Zakim> +igor; got it
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15:02:39 <sandro> Scribe: Deborah_Nichols 
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15:03:36 <sandro> RRSAgent, make minutes
15:03:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/01-rif-minutes.html sandro
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15:06:24 <Zakim> +Hassan_Ait-Kaci
15:06:26 <Zakim> +Gary_Hallmark
15:06:35 <Donald_Chapin> Do I need to do anything?
15:06:47 <Donald_Chapin> ok
15:06:50 <sandro> zakim, who is here?
15:06:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sandro, Harold, David_Hirtle, AlexKozlenkov (muted), Deborah_Nichols (muted), FrankMcCabe (muted), igor (muted), Leora_Morgenstern (muted), Jeff_Pan,
15:06:53 <Zakim> ... StellaMitchell (muted), johnhall (muted), Donald_Chapin (muted), Hassan_Ait-Kaci (muted), Gary_Hallmark
15:06:56 <Zakim> On IRC I see Hassan, Uta, AlexKozlenkov, johnhall, StellaMitchell, Donald_Chapin, LeoraMorgenstern, JeffP, Deborah_Nichols, igor, FrankMcCabe, Zakim, RRSAgent, sandro, mdean,
15:07:01 <Zakim> ... DavidHirtle, Harold
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15:07:26 <Deborah_Nichols> ScribeNick: dnichols
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15:08:06 <johnhall> Sorry, completely forgot
15:08:16 <johnhall> Will do it right after this meetin
15:08:20 <Deborah_Nichols> Meeting: RIF WG Weekly Teleconference 08012006
15:08:27 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair: Sandro Hawke
15:08:28 <sandro> need regrets added
15:08:34 <Zakim> +Mike_Dean
15:08:43 <Deborah_Nichols> Topic: Approval of minutes
15:08:45 <igor> +1
15:09:10 <sandro> resolved: minutes of 7/18 approved once regrets section added
15:09:15 <Deborah_Nichols> Minutes are approved with regrets section to be added
15:10:24 <Deborah_Nichols> Please post regrets if you're not going to attend Aug. 15 telecon.
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15:10:37 <sandro> sandro: shall we talk about Michael's semantics proposal at all today?
15:11:07 <Deborah_Nichols> Topic: Michael Kifer's semantics proposal.  Postponed.
15:11:31 <Zakim> +??P49
15:11:34 <Zakim> +Philippe_Bonnard (was ??P49)
15:11:37 <PhilippeB> Zakim, mute me
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15:11:49 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/products/5
15:11:58 <Deborah_Nichols> Topic: Use cases
15:12:00 <sandro> action 58, sandro, not done
15:12:07 <Deborah_Nichols> Action 58 (Sandro) - Continued
15:12:19 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/actions/69
15:12:21 <sandro> Alex?
15:12:26 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, unmute me
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15:13:35 <Deborah_Nichols> Topic: Alex's action to contact vendors to request feedback
15:13:47 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/actions/68
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15:14:32 <Deborah_Nichols>  Alex has been in contact with JBoss personnel and is awaiting feedback.  They will participate.
15:14:44 <sandro> s/will/might/
15:14:46 <Deborah_Nichols> okay
15:15:07 <Deborah_Nichols> Action 69 - Continued
15:15:16 <Zakim> +Jos_De_Roo
15:15:43 <sandro> Action 68 - Partial as well.
15:15:51 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, mute me
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15:15:56 <Deborah_Nichols> Action 68 (Alex) - partially fulfilled, continued
15:16:24 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/actions/72
15:16:26 <Donald_Chapin> still open
15:16:51 <Deborah_Nichols> Action 72 - UCR working draft issues - Continued (Don Chapin)
15:17:03 <Deborah_Nichols> Topic: RIFRAF Questionnaire
15:17:26 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:17:38 <MichaelKifer> zakim, IPcaller is me
15:17:38 <Zakim> +MichaelKifer; got it
15:17:44 <Deborah_Nichols> Harold: Question about the tracker.  His action item # 64 was completed but not marked as Closed.
15:17:49 <MichaelKifer> zakim, mute me
15:17:49 <Zakim> MichaelKifer should now be muted
15:18:09 <Harold> Action 64 is closed: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Jul/0037.html
15:18:17 <Deborah_Nichols> Sandro: In general, the Chairs try to update status, but Harold can do it.
15:18:26 <Deborah_Nichols> Sandro has now closed Action 64.
15:18:41 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/products/7
15:19:09 <FrankMcCabe> zakim, unmute me
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15:19:23 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/actions/79
15:19:24 <sandro> continued
15:19:28 <Deborah_Nichols> Actions on RIFRAF: Action 79 is continued
15:19:36 <FrankMcCabe> zakim, mute me
15:19:36 <Zakim> FrankMcCabe should now be muted
15:20:13 <Deborah_Nichols> Other actions are Axel's; he is not in attendance today.
15:20:32 <sandro> Topic: changes in 3.1 (decidability)
15:20:37 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair asks for any additional comments on RIFRAF
15:20:48 <sandro> no comments from anybodyu
15:21:01 <sandro> Topic: requirements moved to RIFRAF
15:21:25 <sandro> no comments from anybody
15:21:27 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair: any comments on Paula's email, or other proposals?
15:21:38 <sandro> Topic: Some new discriminators for RIFRAF
15:21:41 <sandro> no comments from anybody
15:21:51 <Hassan> q+
15:21:56 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair: any comments on new discriminators for RIFRAF?
15:22:02 <sandro> ack Harold 
15:22:07 <sandro> ack Hassan 
15:22:37 <sandro> Hassan: also e-mail from csma yesterday
15:22:39 <Deborah_Nichols> Hassan: Christian sent an email on discriminators.
15:23:19 <Deborah_Nichols> Hassan: Agrees with Gary that the notion is confused, depending on what is considered to be a rule...
15:24:04 <Deborah_Nichols> Hassan: Christian proposed some things to clarify, and Hassan is not sure he understands all csma's points....
15:24:27 <Deborah_Nichols> Hassan: However, does agree with csma's point that we not use the terms 'body' and 'head'...
15:25:24 <Deborah_Nichols> Hassan: because the terms 'body' and 'head' are not used consistently across the rules community sub-groups.
15:25:51 <Deborah_Nichols> Hassan: Understands the need for a "clean" vocabulary about rules.
15:26:09 <Harold> q+
15:26:12 <Deborah_Nichols> Hassan: Is willing to work with csma to come up with a proposal.
15:26:41 <sandro> ACTION Hassan: write response to Christian's proposal, asking for clarifications where necessary
15:26:43 <Deborah_Nichols> Action to Hassan to work with csma on rule vocabulary terms.
15:27:34 <AlexKozlenkov> how many submissions so far?
15:27:37 <Deborah_Nichols> Harold: will post link to prior discussion on terminology
15:27:47 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/38457/RAFQuestionnaire/results
15:27:47 <Deborah_Nichols> Topic: RIFRAF Questionnaire
15:27:48 <Harold> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/Rulesystem_Arrangement_Framework
15:28:15 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair: So far there have been 3 responses....
15:28:21 <Harold> Section "Mapping between deductive rule and reactive rule terminology"
15:28:39 <FrankMcCabe> zakim, unmute me
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15:28:43 <Donald_Chapin> zakim, unmute me
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15:28:45 <Zakim> -Leora_Morgenstern
15:28:46 <MichaelKifer> zakim, unmute me
15:28:47 <Zakim> MichaelKifer should no longer be muted
15:28:55 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/Zakim.html
15:29:00 <johnhall> Donald and I didn't have time to turn the questionnaire with colleagues on our team
15:29:20 <johnhall> Zakim, umnute me
15:29:20 <Zakim> I don't understand 'umnute me', johnhall
15:29:38 <Zakim> +Leora_Morgenstern
15:29:42 <johnhall> Zakim, unmute me
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15:29:47 <sandro> Sandro: n3, prolog -- hopefully soon
15:30:02 <sandro> Harold: oo-jdew
15:30:09 <sandro> Harold: oo-jdrew
15:30:11 <DavidHirtle> OO jDREW generally
15:30:29 <sandro> Harold: using the table.
15:30:40 <AlexKozlenkov> what about other people's systems?
15:30:48 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair: Polling attendees about their participation in the Questionnaire
15:31:19 <Deborah_Nichols> Alex: [what was the upshot?]
15:31:21 <Harold> This ("Mapping between deductive rule and reactive rule terminology") was basically done by Gary (I mostly assisted), and should now again be relevant for Christian and Hassan.
15:31:28 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, unmute me
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15:32:07 <Deborah_Nichols> Alex has already submitted for Prova language.
15:32:27 <Deborah_Nichols> David Hirtle: No plans to submit.
15:32:30 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, mute me
15:32:30 <Zakim> AlexKozlenkov should now be muted
15:33:55 <Deborah_Nichols> Deborah: Will propose to MSR team doing it for SWRL
15:34:10 <Deborah_Nichols> Michael: Peter is also working on SWRL.  
15:34:27 <sandro> Frank: planing to do GO --  typed
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15:34:28 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair: Will be fine to have two views of SWRL, 
15:34:34 <mdean> s/Michael/MikeDean/
15:34:38 <Deborah_Nichols> Frank: Will do it for GO language
15:34:42 <igor> zakim, unmute me
15:34:42 <Zakim> igor should no longer be muted
15:35:12 <igor> I have no plans for another language
15:35:27 <Deborah_Nichols> Igor: No plans for another language.  Already did Prolog.
15:35:30 <igor> zakim, mute me
15:35:30 <Zakim> igor should now be muted
15:35:55 <sandro> JeffP - CIF -- planned -- need to talk to some people on holiday
15:35:57 <Zakim> +Mala_Mehrotra
15:36:09 <Deborah_Nichols> JeffP plans to cover CIF
15:36:37 <sandro> John: want to do SBVR -- with help from Terry Halpin
15:36:42 <Deborah_Nichols> John Hall: Is there a new deadline, since the cutoff was yesterday?
15:36:48 <sandro> Don: have changes from last week been made
15:37:13 <sandro> Don: Looking for deadline.
15:37:14 <Deborah_Nichols> John Hall: Is interested in doing SBVR with help from Terry Halpin
15:37:34 <johnhall> \akim, mute me
15:37:42 <johnhall> zakim, mute me
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15:37:42 <FrankMcCabe> zakim, mute me
15:37:43 <Zakim> FrankMcCabe should now be muted
15:37:48 <sandro> StellaMitchell: working with internal ECA language
15:38:01 <Deborah_Nichols> Stella:  Currently working with an event-condition-action language that is an internal IBM language, not a product
15:38:28 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair: suggests looking at Paula's discriminators to see if they make sense for Stella's ECA work
15:38:33 <sandro> Sandro: look at Paula's suggested descriminitators
15:38:59 <sandro> Hassan: I did this for LIFE and Ilog's products before -- need to put it on Questionnaire
15:39:13 <Deborah_Nichols> Hassan:  Haven't done the questionnaire but provided descriptions early on for Ilog and LIFE.
15:39:17 <AlexKozlenkov> A reminder of a link to Paula's descriminators? 
15:39:34 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair: Hassan please transfer his earlier work to the Questionnaire page.
15:39:38 <sandro> Gary: I'll do it for Jess or Oracles's lang -- but I want to wait for Paula's work to be in questionnaire
15:40:12 <Deborah_Nichols> Gary: Would like to incorporate Paula's work in the questionnaire before doing his work on Jess or on Oracle's language.
15:40:25 <johnhall> +1
15:40:26 <AlexKozlenkov> Where are they linked, please?
15:40:30 <Deborah_Nichols> Proposed: Add Paula's discriminators to the Questionnaire.
15:40:39 <sandro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Jul/0039.html
15:40:46 <AlexKozlenkov> Thanks a lot
15:40:51 <sandro> Gary and Hasson: proposing that be added
15:41:27 <AlexKozlenkov> Sounds reasonable
15:41:42 <Donald_Chapin> zakim, mute me
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15:41:43 <FrankMcCabe> +1
15:41:48 <FrankMcCabe> yes
15:41:50 <AlexKozlenkov> Just now skimming through
15:42:46 <sandro> Gary: there's a lot of talk about events, but it's better aligned to PR terminology
15:43:03 <Deborah_Nichols> Gary:  There's a lot in Paula's discriminators about events that doesn't occur in production rule; nonetheless it's better aligned to PR than the deduction-oriented questions.
15:43:09 <AlexKozlenkov> q+
15:43:39 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair: Seems to be agreement among attendees to add these questions but may not have a quorum to decide the question.
15:43:55 <Harold> The questionnaire should be filled out for all/most of the languages/systems "Rule Systems" page (http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/List_of_Rule_Systems)
15:43:55 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair: Note general support; we will conclude the question by email.
15:43:56 <AlexKozlenkov> q-
15:44:30 <AlexKozlenkov> q+
15:44:35 <Deborah_Nichols> Harold: Has posted a link to the list of all rule systems that was generated previously....
15:44:39 <SaidTabet> Events are a whole area currently explored and known in the industry as 'Event Streaming' or 'Complex Events Processing', there was a workshop on the topic earlier this year and the topics of ECA rules came up...Will post the URL later
15:44:50 <Deborah_Nichols> Harold: Recommends that the Questionnaire be filled out for each of those languages.
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15:45:14 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair: Create a link from the Questionnaire to the List of Rule Systems and track that each is done.
15:45:21 <AlexKozlenkov> q-
15:45:25 <sandro> Mike_Dean: I'd be happy to review the entries for SWRL
15:45:39 <Deborah_Nichols> Mike Dean: Volunteers to review the SWRL entries....
15:45:45 <sandro> Sandro: would you be willing to do N3?
15:45:52 <sandro> Mike: I'll review yours!
15:46:02 <Deborah_Nichols> Mike Dean:  asked by the chair to do N3, would prefer to review the chair's.
15:46:24 <sandro> Zakim, unmute PhilippeB 
15:46:24 <Zakim> Philippe_Bonnard should no longer be muted
15:47:08 <Deborah_Nichols> Philippe: Not committed at the moment to doing the Questionnaire.
15:47:19 <sandro> PhilippeB: might do jrules
15:47:38 <sandro> ... But want to discuss with csma and hak before committing
15:47:38 <Deborah_Nichols> Philippe: But would like to apply the questionnaire on JRules and NC sharp, ...
15:47:55 <Deborah_Nichols> But before committing would like to discuss with csma.
15:48:12 <Deborah_Nichols> Jos: It's on his to-do stack to do N3.
15:48:17 <PhilippeB> Zakim, mute me
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15:48:18 <sandro> JosDeRoo: euler/n3 - in the coming weeks.
15:48:23 <Deborah_Nichols> Jos: Would be sometime in the coming week.
15:49:11 <Deborah_Nichols> Michael Kifer: Is not planning to do an additional language.
15:50:07 <Deborah_Nichols> Leora: Plans to do another internal IBM language (called "ESN" internally but not really named).  Not before next Friday.
15:50:14 <sandro> LeoraMorgenstern: an internal language, subset of FOL, by a week from friday
15:50:53 <LeoraMorgenstern> zakim, please mute me
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15:51:03 <Deborah_Nichols> Mala: Will touch base with Leora and then make a commitment.
15:51:07 <johnhall> zakim, unmute me
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15:51:30 <sandro> johnhall, for Said: for RuleML.
15:51:37 <Deborah_Nichols> John Hall: Said plans to do the Questionnaire for RuleML.
15:51:38 <johnhall> zakim, mute me
15:51:38 <Zakim> johnhall should now be muted
15:52:02 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair: That concludes the Questionnaire round-robin.
15:53:04 <Deborah_Nichols> Harold: Action (# ??) - please change the due date to one week from today; it was too tight.
15:53:15 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair: Updates Harold's action due date.
15:53:56 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair: Continue Hassan's action for mapping condition language, to be due next week.
15:54:37 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair: Michael posted his action result this morning.  Closed.
15:54:46 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair: Paul not here.
15:54:56 <Deborah_Nichols> s Paula/Paul
15:55:09 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair: Sandro's items also continued.
15:55:12 <Zakim> -igor
15:55:13 <Zakim> -Harold
15:55:15 <FrankMcCabe> see you...
15:55:15 <Zakim> -AlexKozlenkov
15:55:16 <Zakim> -Hassan_Ait-Kaci
15:55:19 <Deborah_Nichols> Chair: now adjourned.
15:55:20 <Zakim> -Donald_Chapin
15:55:22 <Zakim> -Gary_Hallmark
15:55:23 <Zakim> -David_Hirtle
15:55:25 <Zakim> -StellaMitchell
15:55:26 <Zakim> -Jeff_Pan
15:55:27 <Zakim> -Jos_De_Roo
15:55:29 <Zakim> -MichaelKifer
15:55:31 <Zakim> -FrankMcCabe
15:55:35 <Zakim> -johnhall
15:55:37 <Zakim> -Mala_Mehrotra
15:55:37 <Hassan> quit
15:55:39 <Zakim> -Leora_Morgenstern
15:55:41 <Zakim> -Mike_Dean
15:55:45 <Zakim> -Philippe_Bonnard
15:55:57 <sandro> zakim, who is here?
15:55:57 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sandro, Deborah_Nichols
15:55:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see MalaMehrotra, SaidTabet, JosDeRoo, Uta, AlexKozlenkov, LeoraMorgenstern, JeffP, Deborah_Nichols, FrankMcCabe, Zakim, RRSAgent, sandro, mdean, Harold
15:56:05 <sandro> RRSAgent, make minutes
15:56:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/01-rif-minutes.html sandro
15:57:14 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/issues
15:58:45 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/products/7
15:59:08 <SaidTabet> Bye everyone
16:09:12 <sandro> scribenick: Deborah_Nichols 
16:09:15 <sandro> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:09:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/01-rif-minutes.html sandro
16:10:20 <sandro> scribe: Deborah_Nichols 
16:10:25 <sandro> scribenick: Deborah_Nichols 
16:10:37 <sandro> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:10:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/01-rif-minutes.html sandro
16:11:21 <sandro> s/dnichols/Deborah_Nichols/
16:11:25 <sandro> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:11:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/08/01-rif-minutes.html sandro
16:13:07 <Zakim> -Deborah_Nichols
16:13:09 <Zakim> -Sandro
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16:13:11 <Zakim> Attendees were Sandro, David_Hirtle, Deborah_Nichols, AlexKozlenkov, Harold, +1.650.857.aaaa, FrankMcCabe, igor, Leora_Morgenstern, Jeff_Pan, StellaMitchell, johnhall,
16:13:14 <Zakim> ... Donald_Chapin, Hassan_Ait-Kaci, Gary_Hallmark, Mike_Dean, Philippe_Bonnard, Jos_De_Roo, MichaelKifer, Mala_Mehrotra
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