19:54:01 RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag 19:54:05 logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/07/06-wai-wcag-irc 19:54:07 rrsagent, make log world 19:54:55 meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 19:55:01 chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden 19:55:16 Andi has joined #wai-wcag 19:57:00 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006JulSep/0008.html 19:57:03 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006JulSep/0008.html 19:57:24 agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates 19:57:25 WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started 19:57:32 +??P3 19:57:48 rellero_ has joined #wai-wcag 19:57:54 agenda+ Last Call Issues from Editors for 22 June 19:58:06 zakim, ??P3 is Ben_and_Gregg 19:58:06 +Ben_and_Gregg; got it 19:58:20 +??P4 19:58:20 agenda+ Last Call Issues from Team A for 29 June 19:58:29 zakim, ??P4 is Roberto_Scano 19:58:29 +Roberto_Scano; got it 19:58:50 agenda+ Last Call Issues from Team A for 06 July 19:58:55 zakim, i am Roberto_Scano 19:58:55 ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano 19:58:57 Gregg-awayButPeek has joined #wai-wcag 19:59:16 zakim, mute me 19:59:16 Roberto_Scano should now be muted 19:59:19 agenda+ Last Call Issues from Editors for 06 July 19:59:20 +Andi_Snow_Weaver 20:00:43 +Alex_Li 20:01:43 +David 20:01:45 +[MIT528] 20:01:53 zakim, mit528 is Michael_Cooper 20:01:53 +Michael_Cooper; got it 20:01:54 Sofia has joined #wai-wcag 20:02:03 zakim, [MIT528 is rellero 20:02:03 sorry, rellero_, I do not recognize a party named '[MIT528' 20:02:12 ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly 20:02:39 +Sofia_Celic 20:02:51 -David 20:03:03 + +073573aaaa 20:03:23 zakim, +073 is Bengt_Farre 20:03:23 +Bengt_Farre; got it 20:03:24 +Judy+Michael 20:03:43 ScribeOptions: scribeOnly 20:03:50 judy has joined #wai-wcag 20:03:56 +??P12 20:03:58 zakim Judy+Michael is Judy_Brewer 20:04:01 + +1.301.774.aabb 20:04:19 zakim, +1.301 is Tim_Boland 20:04:19 +Tim_Boland; got it 20:04:30 +??P10 20:04:35 Sorcha has joined #wai-wcag 20:04:35 zakim, ??P10 is relleo 20:04:35 +relleo; got it 20:04:36 zakim, ??P12 is Sorcha_Moore 20:04:37 +Sorcha_Moore; got it 20:04:54 Zakim, relleo is roberto_ellero 20:04:54 +roberto_ellero; got it 20:05:03 zakim, mute roberto_ellero 20:05:03 roberto_ellero should now be muted 20:05:10 zakim, mute roberto_ellero 20:05:10 roberto_ellero was already muted, rellero_ 20:05:20 zakim, who is on the phone? 20:05:20 On the phone I see Ben_and_Gregg, Roberto_Scano (muted), Andi_Snow_Weaver, Alex_Li, Michael_Cooper, Sofia_Celic (muted), Bengt_Farre, Judy+Michael, Sorcha_Moore, Tim_Boland, 20:05:23 ... roberto_ellero (muted) 20:05:35 zakim Judy+Michael is Judy_Brewer 20:05:45 zakim Judy is Judy_Brewer 20:05:54 zakim, Judy+Michael is Judy_Brewer 20:05:54 +Judy_Brewer; got it 20:06:25 zakim, take up item 1 20:06:25 agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from Michael] 20:07:23 q+ 20:07:27 scribe: Andi 20:09:29 q? 20:09:32 ack j 20:09:34 ack judy 20:10:30 Christophe has joined #wai-wcag 20:14:52 topic: Editors Survey 22 June, 2006 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20060622editorz/results 20:15:09 Topic: LC-687 accepted by unanimous consent 20:16:21 Resolution: LC-1412, LC-1405, LC-1232, LC-1216 accepted as proposed by unanimous consent 20:16:25 zakim, next item 20:16:25 agendum 2. "Last Call Issues from Editors for 22 June " taken up [from Michael] 20:17:04 agenda? 20:17:06 LC-663, LC-722, LC-855, LC-907, LC-952, LC-999, LC-1004, LC-1005, LC-1177, LC-1181, LC-1184, LC-1185, LC-1186, LC-1189, LC-1191, LC-1261, LC-1262, Failure/SC inconsistency in 1.4.2 accepted as proposed via unanimous consent 20:17:23 shawn has left #wai-wcag 20:17:50 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20060622editorz/results 20:18:19 topic: Editors Survey 22 June, 2006 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20060622editorz/results 20:18:25 topic: LC-660 20:18:35 Makoto has joined #wai-wcag 20:20:18 +??P14 20:21:09 zakim, ??P14 is Makoto_Ueki 20:21:09 +Makoto_Ueki; got it 20:21:28 resolution: accept LC-660 as amended 20:21:34 topic: LC-685 20:24:10 q+ to note the availability of http://www.w3.org/WAI/bcase/soc for wcag 1.0, can be updated 20:24:15 ack j 20:24:15 judy, you wanted to note the availability of http://www.w3.org/WAI/bcase/soc for wcag 1.0, can be updated 20:24:18 ack j 20:25:36 Makoto has joined #wai-wcag 20:26:58 q+ 20:27:03 +Gabriele_Bartolini 20:27:37 zakim, Gabriele is Christophe_Strobbe 20:27:37 +Christophe_Strobbe; got it 20:30:22 +David_MacDonald 20:30:44 resolution: accept LC-685 as currently amended 20:31:30 topic: LC-738 20:31:45 resolution: accept LC-738 as proposed and fix two other bullets 20:31:45 Administrator has joined #wai-wcag 20:32:21 Makoto has joined #wai-wcag 20:33:30 topic: LC-785 20:34:50 resolution: accept LC-785 as currently revised 20:34:57 topic: LC-793 20:36:12 -Makoto_Ueki 20:37:30 resolution: accept LC-793 as currently revised 20:38:00 +[IPcaller] 20:38:01 zakim, [IPcaller] is Makoto_Ueki 20:38:01 +Makoto_Ueki; got it 20:38:02 topic: LC-800 20:38:51 -Roberto_Scano 20:39:43 resolution: accept LC-800 as currently written 20:39:54 zakim, next item 20:39:54 agendum 3. "Last Call Issues from Team A for 29 June " taken up [from Michael] 20:41:53 -Makoto_Ueki 20:42:00 topic: LC-659 20:43:11 +??P4 20:43:21 zakim, ??P4 is Makoto_Ueki 20:43:21 +Makoto_Ueki; got it 20:47:13 action: Michael to talk to Shawn about what to do about techniques that are attached to guidelines, not success criteria 20:48:23 resolution: put LC-659 on hold to be addressed with other font legibility issues 20:49:19 Topic: LC-700 20:49:50 Makoto has joined #wai-wcag 20:51:35 q+ 20:52:54 q+ 20:54:12 zakim, administrator is David 20:54:12 sorry, Administrator, I do not recognize a party named 'administrator' 20:54:39 ack c 20:54:41 ack a 20:56:48 Makoto has joined #wai-wcag 21:03:20 Makoto has joined #wai-wcag 21:05:22 resolution: accept LC-700 as proposed 21:05:43 topic: LC-728 21:09:48 resolution: accept LC-728 with Christophe's edit for the second to last sentence. 21:10:21 topic: LC-741 21:12:26 action: Gregg to check with Eric Hanson to clarify LC-741 21:12:35 resolution: accept LC-741 as proposed 21:13:03 topic: LC-774 21:13:33 +??P0 21:15:11 -Tim_Boland 21:16:19 resolution: accept LC-774 as proposed 21:17:22 zakim, next item 21:17:22 agendum 4. "Last Call Issues from Team A for 06 July " taken up [from Michael] 21:18:15 topic: LC-743 21:21:58 resolution: accept LC-743 as proposed except labeled "not accept" 21:22:03 topic: LC-790 21:25:49 zakim, ??P0 is Cynthia_Shelly 21:25:49 +Cynthia_Shelly; got it 21:27:32 -Sorcha_Moore 21:28:18 +??P1 21:28:37 zakim, ??P1 is Sorcha_Moore 21:28:37 +Sorcha_Moore; got it 21:36:24 q+ to say "This is about benefits, not requirements." 21:37:32 -roberto_ellero 21:41:01 q- 21:41:15 q? 21:42:16 ack ??P0 21:45:34 -David_MacDonald 21:49:07 resolution: revise 1.1.1 benefit to read, "People who are deaf, are hard of hearing, or who are having trouble understanding audio information for any reason can read the text presentation. Research is ongoing regarding automatic translation of text into sign language." 21:49:28 resolution: revise 1.2.4 note to read, "Captions may be generated using real-time text translation service." (remove parenthetical) 21:49:53 topic: LC-1163 21:50:03 resolution: accept LC-1163 as proposed 21:50:08 -Bengt_Farre 21:50:20 bengt has left #wai-wcag 21:51:06 topic: LC-1277 21:54:40 resolution: accept LC-1277 as proposed 21:55:44 rrsagent, generate minutes 21:55:44 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/07/06-wai-wcag-minutes.html Michael 21:56:32 -Alex_Li 21:56:39 -Cynthia_Shelly 21:56:40 -Sorcha_Moore 21:56:41 -Judy_Brewer 21:56:42 -Sofia_Celic 21:56:42 -Andi_Snow_Weaver 21:56:45 -Ben_and_Gregg 21:56:47 -Christophe_Strobbe 21:56:49 -Michael_Cooper 21:56:51 -Makoto_Ueki 21:56:52 WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended 21:56:53 Attendees were Ben_and_Gregg, Roberto_Scano, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Alex_Li, David, Michael_Cooper, Sofia_Celic, +073573aaaa, Bengt_Farre, +1.301.774.aabb, Tim_Boland, Sorcha_Moore, 21:56:55 ... roberto_ellero, Judy_Brewer, Makoto_Ueki, Gabriele_Bartolini, Christophe_Strobbe, David_MacDonald, Cynthia_Shelly 21:57:15 Christophe has left #wai-wcag 21:57:25 Sorcha has left #wai-wcag 21:57:32 rscano has left #wai-wcag 22:02:33 zakim, who's on the phone? 22:02:33 apparently WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended, Michael 22:02:34 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, ben, Michael 22:05:46 Present: Ben_Caldwell, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Roberto_Scano, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Alex_Li, David_MacDonald, Michael_Cooper, Sofia_Selic, Bengt_Farre, Tim_Boland, Sorcha_Moore, Roberto_Ellero, Judy_Brewer, Makoto_Ueki, Christophe_Strobbe, Cynthia_Shelly 22:07:57 zakim, bye 22:07:57 Zakim has left #wai-wcag 22:08:08 rrsagent, bye 22:08:08 I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/07/06-wai-wcag-actions.rdf : 22:08:08 ACTION: Michael to talk to Shawn about what to do about techniques that are attached to guidelines, not success criteria [1] 22:08:08 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/07/06-wai-wcag-irc#T20-47-13 22:08:08 ACTION: Gregg to check with Eric Hanson to clarify LC-741 [2] 22:08:08 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/07/06-wai-wcag-irc#T21-12-26