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14:02:44 <shadi> zakim, who is here?
14:02:44 <Zakim> sorry, shadi, I don't know what conference this is
14:02:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, CarlosI, niq, JohannesK, ChrisR, drooks, shadi, ericP
14:02:50 <shadi> zakim, this is ert
14:02:50 <Zakim> ok, shadi; that matches WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM
14:02:53 <shadi> zakim, who is here?
14:02:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see Klaus/Johannes/Thomas, [IPcaller], Shadi
14:02:55 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, CarlosI, niq, JohannesK, ChrisR, drooks, shadi, ericP
14:03:21 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller is really Chris
14:03:21 <Zakim> +Chris; got it
14:03:24 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:03:38 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller is really David
14:03:38 <Zakim> +David; got it
14:04:25 <Zakim> + +98439aaaa
14:04:50 <shadi> zakim, aaaa is really Carlos
14:04:50 <Zakim> +Carlos; got it
14:04:51 <niq> zakim won't let me in
14:05:04 <Zakim> +Klaus/Johannes/Thomas.a
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14:05:30 <niq> it's greeting message, then another ringtone, then hangup
14:06:07 <shadi> agenda+ URI-in-RDF vs single URI
14:06:15 <shadi> agenda+ Test Samples Development Task Force (TSD TF)
14:06:24 <shadi> agenda+ WCAG 2.0 review: focus on testability of success criteria
14:06:36 <shadi> agenda+ Naming and presenting "HTTP-in-RDF" and "RFC822-in-RDF"
14:06:50 <shadi> zakim, take up item 1
14:06:50 <Zakim> agendum 1. "URI-in-RDF vs single URI" taken up [from shadi]
14:08:10 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:08:29 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller is really Nick
14:08:29 <Zakim> +Nick; got it
14:08:47 <Zakim> -Klaus/Johannes/Thomas.a
14:09:01 <Zakim> +Klaus/Johannes/Thomas.a
14:09:09 <niq> bah, humbug
14:09:23 <drooks> shadi: reviews previous uri in rdf discussions. Carlos proposed URI in RDF. 
14:10:38 <niq> saz: should rdf describe the various parts of uri?
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14:13:40 <JohannesK> in <http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/HTTP/WD-HTTP-in-RDF-20060508> it's property uri
14:14:05 <niq> cv: duplication of uri property in HTTP and EARL rdf
14:15:00 <niq> saz: is that a problem?
14:16:25 <niq> saz: define somewhere, reuse?
14:16:53 <niq> nk: Isn't the URI term available in some existing rdf ?
14:17:52 <niq> saz: really talking about Location, which extends URI
14:20:09 <shadi> <http:request><http:requestURI>...</http:requestURI></http:request>
14:21:33 <JohannesK> <earl:WebContent><http:uri>...</http:uri></earl:WebContent>
14:21:34 <shadi> <earl:locatio>...</earl:location>
14:22:20 <niq> nk/saz: should be up to tools whether to record just URi or more detail
14:23:27 <Zakim> -Klaus/Johannes/Thomas
14:23:52 <Zakim> +Klaus/Johannes/Thomas.aa
14:24:20 <shadi> zakim, who is making noise?
14:24:29 <JohannesK> I'm writing
14:24:30 <Zakim> shadi, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
14:24:50 <niq> shadi's ears makign noise
14:24:57 <JohannesK> January schema draft says dc:location is property of WebContent class
14:25:13 <JohannesK> I was replacing dc:location with http:uri
14:25:59 <niq> jk: <http:uri>
14:26:14 <niq> saz: needs to be wrapped in <http:request>
14:26:14 <JohannesK> <earl:WebContent><earl:httpRequest><http:Request><http:uri>...
14:27:25 <JohannesK> Why not <earl:WebContent><http:uri>... ?
14:29:33 <JohannesK> yep
14:29:36 <niq> saz: need earl namespace version of uri
14:31:01 <niq> saz: we don't want a whole vocab for URIs
14:31:12 <niq> all agree
14:31:46 <niq> RESOLUTION: a single URI property suffices
14:32:32 <shadi> action: shadi look at earl:uri and http:uri and align them
14:32:41 <shadi> zakim, close item 1
14:32:42 <Zakim> agendum 1, URI-in-RDF vs single URI, closed
14:32:44 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:32:45 <niq> Action saz: ensure http:uri and earl:uri are compatible
14:32:47 <Zakim> 2. Test Samples Development Task Force (TSD TF) [from shadi]
14:32:50 <shadi> zakim, take up item 2
14:32:50 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Test Samples Development Task Force (TSD TF)" taken up [from shadi]
14:35:12 <Zakim> -David
14:35:28 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:36:08 <niq> saz: testability and testsuite for wcag2 requirements
14:37:17 <niq> cr: don't forget other relevant testsuites
14:37:36 <niq> saz: yes, but not our concern
14:39:07 <niq> cr: extending the testsuite would help understand different guidelines and how they relate
14:39:28 <niq> saz: nice, but not our charter
14:39:53 <niq> cr; general testduite would be more helpful
14:42:18 <niq> cr: OK, our charter is wcag2, but we should try and ensure our testsuite is useful beyond it
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14:44:12 <Zakim> -Nick
14:46:27 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
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14:55:06 <JohannesK> cr: we should create test procedures and send them to WCAG WG
14:55:19 <JohannesK> saz: it's not our task
14:55:45 <JohannesK> ci: just reviewing existing test procedures doesn't sound interesting
14:56:05 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
14:57:02 <JohannesK> saz: prime task is reviewing existing test procedures and provide feedback
14:57:35 <JohannesK> saz: suggest repairs; ownership must be on WCAG WG
14:59:36 <JohannesK> ci: we as tool developers must have the same view on WCAG to implement them correctly
15:00:27 <JohannesK> saz: we won't edit the techniques doc
15:02:38 <ChrisR> tech submission form: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/TECHS-SUBMIT/
15:02:42 <JohannesK> saz: WCAG WG will incorporate comments from TF into techniques doc; submit new techniques via different channel
15:03:18 <JohannesK> ci: why have these two channels? communication to WCAG WG should be more flexible
15:03:52 <JohannesK> saz: there's not a bottom-up _and_ a top-down approach
15:04:03 <JohannesK> saz: it's just top-down
15:04:27 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]
15:04:35 <Zakim> -Chris
15:04:36 <Zakim> -Klaus/Johannes/Thomas.aa
15:04:38 <Zakim> -Shadi
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15:09:43 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, Carlos, in WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM
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15:09:47 <Zakim> Attendees were Klaus/Johannes/Thomas, Shadi, Chris, David, +98439aaaa, Carlos, Nick, [IPcaller]
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15:29:26 <niq> lol @[IPcaller]
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