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17:49:50 <jallan> Meeting: UAWG Teleconference 25 May 2006
17:55:33 <jallan> zakim, this will be wai_u
17:55:33 <Zakim> ok, jallan; I see WAI_UAWG()2:00PM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
17:57:57 <Zakim> WAI_UAWG()2:00PM has now started
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18:01:47 <Zakim> +[IBM]
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18:02:28 <JR> Scribe: JR
18:02:37 <JR> Chair: Jim Allan
18:02:46 <JR> Regrets: Cathy Laws
18:02:55 <JR> Topic: WCAG comments
18:03:10 <JR> JA: Will right something up for programmatically determined.
18:04:22 <jallan> JR: Programmatically Determined: 
18:04:22 <jallan>  
18:04:22 <jallan> determined by software from data provided in a user-agent-supported  
18:04:22 <jallan> [implemented by user agents and assistive technologies] manner such that  
18:04:22 <jallan> the user agents [any software that retrieves and renders Web content for  
18:04:23 <jallan> users] can extract and present this information to users in different  
18:04:25 <jallan> modalities 
18:04:27 <jallan>  
18:04:29 <jallan>  
18:04:31 <jallan>  
18:04:33 <jallan> This may be more clear: 
18:04:35 <jallan>  
18:04:37 <jallan> Available in a user-agent-supported [implemented by user agents and  
18:04:39 <jallan> assistive technologies] manner that supports unambiguous automatic  
18:04:41 <jallan> processing by user agents [any software that retrieves and renders Web  
18:04:43 <jallan> content for users]. 
18:05:45 <JR> (Context, this is a proposal JR sent to JA last week that JA has just pasted in)
18:08:25 <jallan> JA: revision: Available in a user-agent-supported [implemented by user agents and  
18:08:25 <jallan> assistive technologies] manner that supports unambiguous automatic  
18:08:25 <jallan> processing by user agents [any software that retrieves and renders Web  
18:08:25 <jallan> content for users] for presentation to users in different modalities.
18:08:43 <JR> (context: JA pastes in his newer version)
18:09:05 <jallan> cleaner - Available in a user-agent-supported  manner that supports unambiguous automatic  
18:09:05 <jallan> processing by user agents for presentation to users in different modalities.
18:09:23 <JR> JA: Can live with this.
18:09:27 <JR> JR: So can I
18:09:45 <JR> Peter: So can I
18:10:10 <jallan> action: JA to contact CL about change of definition vs. change all sc in wcag
18:10:13 <JR> Peter: Prob can expect better reception from WCAG than suggesting changes to lots of success criteria
18:10:42 <JR> Topic: WCAG 3.2.3 
18:10:43 <jallan> 3.2.2 Changing the setting of any form control or field does not automatically cause a change of context (beyond moving to the next field in tab order) unless the authored unit contains instructions before the control that describe the behavior. [How to meet 3.2.2] 
18:10:44 <jallan>  
18:12:16 <JR> JA: Statement "(beyond moving to the next field in tab order)" should be removed since it undermines the whole thing
18:12:20 <JR> JR: Agreed
18:15:57 <JR> Peter: So why did they do it?
18:16:27 <JR> Peter: Perhaps there are situations eg phone numbers with a known number of digits.
18:17:22 <JR> JA: If that clause is removed then it makes sense
18:17:30 <JR> JR, perter: Agreed
18:31:01 <Zakim> -[IBM]
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18:31:03 <Zakim> -Jim_Allan
18:31:05 <Zakim> WAI_UAWG()2:00PM has ended
18:31:06 <Zakim> Attendees were Jim_Allan, [IBM]
18:31:24 <JR> RRSAgent, make minutes
18:31:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/05/25-ua-minutes.html JR
18:32:25 <JR> RRSAgent, set logs public
18:32:31 <JR> Zakim, bye
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18:32:38 <JR> RRSAgent, bye
18:32:38 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/25-ua-actions.rdf :
18:32:38 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JA to contact CL about change of definition vs. change all sc in wcag [1]
18:32:38 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/25-ua-irc#T18-10-10