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16:56:58 <RalphS> Meeting: SWBPD WG
16:57:08 <Zakim> SW_BPD()1:00PM has now started
16:57:10 <RalphS> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006May/0040.html
16:57:15 <Zakim> +DBooth
16:57:31 <Zakim> +Ralph
16:58:12 <RalphS> Previous: 2006-04-24 http://www.w3.org/2006/04/24-swbp-minutes.html
16:58:23 <RalphS> Regrets: ChrisH, Jacco, Libby
16:59:36 <Zakim> +Evan_Wallace
17:01:43 <Zakim> +[CWI]
17:01:53 <RalphS> zakim, cwi is Raphael
17:01:53 <Zakim> +Raphael; got it
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17:02:56 <RalphS> Regrets+ JeffP
17:03:11 <Elisa> Elisa has joined #swbp
17:03:19 <Zakim> +Guus_Schreiber
17:03:37 <guus> guus has joined #swbp
17:03:37 <RalphS> Chair: Guus
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17:03:49 <RalphS> zakim, who's on the call?
17:03:49 <Zakim> On the phone I see DBooth, Ralph, Evan_Wallace, Raphael, Guus_Schreiber
17:03:57 <Zakim> +Elisa_Kendall
17:04:08 <Zakim> +Gary_Ng
17:04:30 <RalphS> Topic: Admin
17:04:38 <RalphS> zakim, list participants
17:04:38 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been DBooth, Ralph, Evan_Wallace, Raphael, Guus_Schreiber, Elisa_Kendall, Gary_Ng
17:05:09 <Zakim> +Ben_Adida
17:05:10 <raphael> zakim, mute me
17:05:10 <Zakim> Raphael should now be muted
17:05:14 <RalphS> zakim, pick a victim
17:05:14 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose DBooth
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17:05:20 <RalphS> zakim, pick a victim
17:05:20 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose DBooth
17:05:22 <RalphS> zakim, pick a victim
17:05:22 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Guus_Schreiber
17:05:24 <RalphS> zakim, pick a victim
17:05:24 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Guus_Schreiber
17:05:26 <RalphS> zakim, pick a victim
17:05:27 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Ralph
17:05:34 <RalphS> Scribe: Ralph
17:05:55 <benadida> zakim, mute me
17:05:55 <Zakim> Ben_Adida should now be muted
17:06:07 <RalphS> zakim, remind me to fix your implementation of 'pick a scribe'
17:06:07 <Zakim> I don't understand you, RalphS
17:06:50 <RalphS> zakim, list participants
17:06:50 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been DBooth, Ralph, Evan_Wallace, Raphael, Guus_Schreiber, Elisa_Kendall, Gary_Ng, Ben_Adida
17:06:53 <guus> zakim, who is here?
17:06:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see DBooth, Ralph, Evan_Wallace, Raphael (muted), Guus_Schreiber, Elisa_Kendall, Gary_Ng, Ben_Adida (muted)
17:06:55 <Zakim> On IRC I see benadida, GaryNg, guus, Elisa, RRSAgent, dbooth, raphael, EWallace, Zakim, RalphS
17:06:58 <Zakim> +Deb_McGuinness
17:07:19 <GaryNg> zakim, mute me
17:07:19 <Zakim> Gary_Ng should now be muted
17:08:00 <benadida> I can only stay until 1730 UTC
17:08:08 <RalphS> RESOLVED: http://www.w3.org/2006/04/24-swbp-minutes.html accepted as minutes of previous meeting
17:08:36 <RalphS> PROPOSED next telecons 22 May, 5 June, 19 June
17:08:47 <RalphS> RESOLVED next telecons 22 May, 5 June, 19 June
17:08:49 <benadida> zakim, unmute me
17:08:49 <Zakim> Ben_Adida should no longer be muted
17:09:13 <RalphS> Ben: I would like a vote to publish 2nd WD of RDF/a Primer
17:09:46 <benadida> zakim, mute me
17:09:46 <Zakim> Ben_Adida should now be muted
17:09:57 <RalphS> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/ Multimedia Semantics Incubator Group
17:10:01 <RalphS> Topic: TF Updates
17:10:02 <benadida> zakim, unmute me
17:10:02 <Zakim> Ben_Adida should no longer be muted
17:10:06 <RalphS> Topic: HTML TF
17:10:29 <GaryNg> zakim, unmute me
17:10:29 <Zakim> Gary_Ng should no longer be muted
17:10:55 <RalphS> ACTION: Ben to ask Gary (and Fabien) if they would review RDFa Primer doc [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/24-swbp-minutes.html#action18
17:10:57 <RalphS> -- done
17:11:05 <RalphS> Ben: got response from Gary, none from Fabien
17:11:15 <RalphS> DBooth: I believe I have an action to review as well
17:11:24 <RalphS> ACTION: Ben to send examples of bookmarklets highlighting RDFa marked up terms to WG list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/24-swbp-minutes.html#action19]
17:11:30 <RalphS> -- continutes
17:11:34 <RalphS> -- continues
17:11:49 <RalphS> ACTION: Ben_Adida to find reviewers and put acknowledgements in [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/24-swbp-minutes.html#action20]
17:11:50 <RalphS> -- done
17:12:04 <RalphS> ACTION: Ben give reviewers appropriate acknowledgement in RDF/A Primer
17:12:13 <RalphS> ACTION: DBooth to re-review RDFa draft by next teleconf (doc ready by Wed 26 Apr for review) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/24-swbp-minutes.html#action17]
17:12:17 <RalphS> -- continues
17:12:31 <RalphS> DBooth: I'm happy to proceed with publication
17:12:56 <GaryNg> zakim, mute me
17:12:56 <Zakim> Gary_Ng should now be muted
17:12:57 <RalphS> ... one question: in Dublin Core, 'creator' is not required to be a URI
17:13:06 <RalphS> Ben: correct; that was one comment made on the first draft
17:13:39 <RalphS> DBooth: reading the examples, I felt I would like to see the RDF produced by the examples sooner, similar to section 3
17:14:03 <RalphS> Ben: good point, it depends on the audience how soon we felt it appropriate to introduce the RDF
17:14:07 <GaryNg> zakim, unmute me
17:14:07 <Zakim> Gary_Ng should no longer be muted
17:14:20 <RalphS> ... the HTML folk feel introducing RDF later is better
17:14:31 <RalphS> Gary: I've looked at the document briefly, concentrating on the changes
17:14:38 <RalphS> ... I'm fine with proceeding with publication
17:14:48 <RalphS> ... I'd like to suggest some minor rearrangements
17:15:08 <RalphS> ... I did notice that the first example in section 2 appears to have missed the triple that Joe is speaking at the conference
17:15:57 <RalphS> Ben: thanks.  The major change was adding the calendar example in section 2
17:16:08 <RalphS> ... we'd like to have this published before WWW2006
17:16:41 <RalphS> Guus: hearing the oral comments from the reviewers, I'll accept a proposal to publish this WD provided reviewer's comments are taken into account
17:16:46 <RalphS> DBooth: second
17:16:52 <GaryNg> zakim, mute me
17:16:52 <Zakim> Gary_Ng should now be muted
17:17:25 <RalphS> RESOLVED: RDF/A Primer publication request may be issued as soon as editor has incorporated today's feedback from reviewers
17:17:39 <RalphS> Ben: other updates from TF ...
17:17:58 <RalphS> ... we're talking with GRDDL folk about a transformation that would take microformats in-place into RDF/A
17:18:18 <RalphS> ... we're in early investigation of this
17:18:24 <RalphS> ... hope to have more information by June
17:18:41 <RalphS> Topic: OEP
17:18:49 <benadida> zakim, mute me
17:18:49 <Zakim> Ben_Adida should now be muted
17:19:18 <RalphS> [DONE] ACTION: Elisa to figure out who was 2nd reviewer of Time note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/24-swbp-minutes.html#action12]
17:19:29 <RalphS> Elisa: Jeremy and Libby were the reviewers
17:19:41 <RalphS> ... last telecon Libby reported that her comments had been addressed
17:20:24 <RalphS> [DONE] ACTION: Guus to review OWL Time note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/12-swbp-minutes.html#action09]
17:20:32 <RalphS> Guus: my review in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006May/0039.html
17:20:45 <RalphS> ... needs work to make it consistent with the OWL
17:20:57 <RalphS> ... I've documented the inconsistencies I found
17:21:30 <RalphS> ... let's wait for the reaction to my review
17:21:47 <RalphS> ACTION: Elisa to find correct latest version of part-whole draft. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/24-swbp-minutes.html#action09]
17:21:50 <RalphS> -- done
17:22:55 <RalphS> Elisa: Alan says what's on the W3C site is his lastest draft but believes Chris may have a more recent draft
17:23:06 <benadida> thanks everyone, I need to run off... I appreciate getting bumped up in the schedule!
17:23:28 <Zakim> -Ben_Adida
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17:23:29 <RalphS> ACTION: Ralph copy http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~rector/swbp/simple-part-whole/simple-part-whole-relations-v0-2.html to WG area [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/24-swbp-minutes.html#action07]
17:24:14 <RalphS> Ralph: that version is older than anything we have on the W3C site
17:24:15 <RalphS> -- done
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17:24:30 <RalphS> (not copied, as we already have newer versions)
17:24:35 <Elisa> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Apr/0014.html
17:24:39 <DeborahM> i am going to need to drop off but i wanted to make sure that we check if the semantic integration note is the latest
17:24:52 <DeborahM> since the one that is up dropped the author changes that chris welty put in in november
17:24:52 <RalphS> [DONE] ACTION: Elisa to ask Sem. Integ. editors to revise prior to final mtg [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/03-swbp-minutes.html#action04]
17:25:11 <RalphS> Elisa: editors hope to have something in a week or two
17:25:28 <RalphS> ACTION: Guus to sort out status of QCR note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/03-swbp-minutes.html#action05]
17:25:30 <DeborahM> it included at least natasha and me as authors for our contributions
17:25:34 <RalphS> -- done
17:25:36 <DeborahM> i appear to still be muted
17:25:38 <RalphS> Guus: just sent mail
17:26:05 <RalphS> ACTION: Guus to propose a version of QCR note for review by 8 May teleconf [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/24-swbp-minutes.html#action10]
17:26:08 <RalphS> -- continues
17:26:36 <RalphS> Guus: I've updated the editor's draft to not say it's a Working Draft
17:28:10 <RalphS> Deb: an authorship change on the Semantic Integration Note was lost
17:28:16 <RalphS> ... not sure if any other changes were also lost
17:28:29 <RalphS> ... I gave Chris a huge list of changes in November in Ireland
17:28:38 <RalphS> ... most appear to be there, but not the authorship change
17:29:00 <RalphS> Elisa: if you email those to me I'll check with Mike that he did include everything
17:29:00 <Zakim> -Deb_McGuinness
17:29:34 <RalphS> Guus: the main to-do on QCR note is to discuss the RDF/XML syntax
17:29:44 <RalphS> ... I'll call Peter Patel-Schneider
17:30:00 <RalphS> ... following that discussion I think I'll be ready to propose QCR for review
17:31:02 <RalphS> Topic: WordNet
17:31:23 <RalphS> [DONE] ACTION: Guus to ask Benjamin if he agrees to the WG publishing 23 Apr version with the above provisos. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/24-swbp-minutes.html#action16]
17:31:31 <RalphS> Guus: Benjamin responded
17:32:13 <RalphS> Ralph: I'm working on making the URIs work
17:32:42 <RalphS> ... am about 2 hours away from finishing a program to generate those files
17:34:16 <RalphS> ACTION: Guus get Jacco to mail explicit consent to publish WordNet WD
17:35:20 <RalphS> DBooth: what did we decide about 303 redirects?
17:35:29 <RalphS> Ralph: I intend to serve the URIs with 303 redirects
17:35:41 <RalphS> ... the draft lists this as an open issue in Appendix I
17:35:44 <raphael> zakim, unmute me
17:35:44 <Zakim> Raphael should no longer be muted
17:35:52 <RalphS> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/WNET/wn-conversion.html#issues
17:36:15 <RalphS> Topic: Multimedia Annotation
17:36:46 <RalphS> Raphael: we're still working on the final version of the Image Annotation WD
17:36:58 <RalphS> ... we're accumulating a list of changes for the Note
17:37:05 <RalphS> ... we'll close the TF as soon as the Note is published
17:37:14 <raphael> zakim, mute me
17:37:14 <Zakim> Raphael should now be muted
17:37:24 <RalphS> [adjourned]
17:37:25 <Zakim> -Evan_Wallace
17:37:25 <GaryNg> bye
17:37:29 <Zakim> -DBooth
17:37:30 <Zakim> -Raphael
17:37:32 <Zakim> -Elisa_Kendall
17:37:34 <RalphS> Regrets+ DWood
17:37:35 <raphael> bye
17:37:36 <Zakim> -Gary_Ng
17:37:38 <Zakim> -Guus_Schreiber
17:37:39 <Zakim> -Ralph
17:37:40 <Zakim> SW_BPD()1:00PM has ended
17:37:41 <Zakim> Attendees were DBooth, Ralph, Evan_Wallace, Raphael, Guus_Schreiber, Elisa_Kendall, Gary_Ng, Ben_Adida, Deb_McGuinness
17:37:45 <Elisa> bye
17:37:48 <RalphS> rrsagent, please make this record public
17:37:52 <guus> bye
17:37:55 <RalphS> rrsagent, please draft minutes
17:37:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/05/08-swbp-minutes.html RalphS
17:40:16 <RalphS> zakim, bye
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17:40:44 <RalphS> rrsagent, bye
17:40:44 <RRSAgent> I see 10 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/08-swbp-actions.rdf :
17:40:44 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to ask Gary (and Fabien) if they would review RDFa Primer doc [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/24-swbp-minutes.html#action18 [1]
17:40:44 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/08-swbp-irc#T17-10-55
17:40:44 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to send examples of bookmarklets highlighting RDFa marked up terms to WG list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/24-swbp-minutes.html#action19] [2]
17:40:44 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/08-swbp-irc#T17-11-24
17:40:44 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben_Adida to find reviewers and put acknowledgements in [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/24-swbp-minutes.html#action20] [3]
17:40:44 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/08-swbp-irc#T17-11-49
17:40:44 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben give reviewers appropriate acknowledgement in RDF/A Primer [4]
17:40:44 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/08-swbp-irc#T17-12-04
17:40:44 <RRSAgent> ACTION: DBooth to re-review RDFa draft by next teleconf (doc ready by Wed 26 Apr for review) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/24-swbp-minutes.html#action17] [5]
17:40:44 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/08-swbp-irc#T17-12-13
17:40:44 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Elisa to find correct latest version of part-whole draft. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/24-swbp-minutes.html#action09] [6]
17:40:44 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/08-swbp-irc#T17-21-47
17:40:44 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ralph copy http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~rector/swbp/simple-part-whole/simple-part-whole-relations-v0-2.html to WG area [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/24-swbp-minutes.html#action07] [7]
17:40:44 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/08-swbp-irc#T17-23-29-1
17:40:44 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Guus to sort out status of QCR note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/03-swbp-minutes.html#action05] [8]
17:40:44 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/08-swbp-irc#T17-25-28
17:40:44 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Guus to propose a version of QCR note for review by 8 May teleconf [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/24-swbp-minutes.html#action10] [9]
17:40:44 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/08-swbp-irc#T17-26-05
17:40:44 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Guus get Jacco to mail explicit consent to publish WordNet WD [10]
17:40:44 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/08-swbp-irc#T17-34-16