IRC log of wai-wcag on 2006-04-20
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/04/20-wai-wcag-irc
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- RRSAgent, do not start a new log
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- zakim, drop wendy
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- RRSAgent, make log world
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- +Wendy
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- Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
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- ip caller sorcha moore
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- zakim, drop wendy
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- Wendy is being disconnected
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- -Wendy
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- zakim, [IP is Sorcha_Moore
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- +Sorcha_Moore; got it
- 20:04:00 [ben_]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006AprJun/0059.html
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- Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden and John_Slatin
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- +Wendy
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- Regrets: Judy_Brewer, Luca_Mascaro, Marco_Bertoni
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- scribe: Andi
- 20:05:24 [ben_]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 20:05:24 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Katie, David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Bengt_Farre, Roberto_Scano (muted), Andi_Snow_Weaver, Alex_Li, John_Slatin, Doyle_Burnett, Loretta_Guarino_Reid,
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- ... Christophe_Strobbe, Becky_Gibson, Gregg_and_Ben, Michael_Cooper, Sorcha_Moore, Wendy
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- 20:05:55 [gregg]
- /me the perception of the color attributes is essential to
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- understanding a piece of content
- 20:06:16 [ben_]
- zakim, Doyle_Burnett is pobably Tim_Boland
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- I don't understand 'Doyle_Burnett is pobably Tim_Boland', ben_
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- +??P19
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- zakim, ??P19 is Cynthia_Shelly
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- +Cynthia_Shelly; got it
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- zakim, Doyle_Burnett is Tim_Boland
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- +Tim_Boland; got it
- 20:08:21 [Andi]
- topic: proposal for change to definition of phrase "information that is conveyed by color"
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- +Sofia_Celic
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- resolution: change definition of phrase "information that is conveyed by color" to "information presented in a manner that depends on the ability to perceive color"
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- Topic: Update on status/abstract
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- ack alex
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- ack katie
- 20:18:51 [Christophe]
- zakim, mute me
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- Christophe_Strobbe should now be muted
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- ack j
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- ack T
- 20:21:07 [ben_]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 20:21:08 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Katie, David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Bengt_Farre, Roberto_Scano (muted), Andi_Snow_Weaver, Alex_Li, John_Slatin, Tim_Boland, Loretta_Guarino_Reid,
- 20:21:11 [Zakim]
- ... Christophe_Strobbe (muted), Becky_Gibson, Gregg_and_Ben, Michael_Cooper, Sorcha_Moore, Wendy, Cynthia_Shelly, Sofia_Celic (muted)
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- ack k
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- ack Alex
- 20:27:47 [Andi]
- Topic: Update on Intro/Conformance
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- -Bruce_Bailey
- 20:32:32 [gregg]
- ACK K
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- +Bruce_Bailey
- 20:33:06 [Andi]
- Topic: Updated Requirements Doc <http://tinyurl.com/mkdlm>
- 20:34:00 [gregg]
- ACK K
- 20:34:50 [Andi]
- Resolution: Adopt Requirements Doc with discussed edits <http://tinyurl.com/mkdlm>
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- Topic: Misc. Questions for 20 April Telecon Survey: <http://tinyurl.com/pr8u8>
- 20:37:44 [wendy]
- q+ to say that should record not only resolution to adopt requirements but to publish an updated working draft.
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- Topic: Proposed GENERAL FAILURE Technique for How to meet 3.2.1: Using "activate" rather than "focus" as a trigger for changes of context
- 20:42:45 [Andi]
- the item on the questionnaire was misidentified as a failure; it's actually a general technique
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- resolution: accept technique with modified example: A page pops up a new window only when the user clicks(or uses spacebar) on a button rather than using onfocus to pop up a new window.
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- Topic: Proposed SCRIPT Technique for How to meet 3.2.5: Using an onchange event on a select element without causing a change of context
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- +[IPcaller]
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- zakim, [IPcaller] is Makoto_Ueki
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- +Makoto_Ueki; got it
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- +David_MacDonald.a
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- zakim, mute me
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- Makoto_Ueki should now be muted
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- zakim, unmute me
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- Christophe_Strobbe should no longer be muted
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- resolution: Accept with edits: Modify step 3 to "Check that the matching option values are displayed in the other select element." Modify step 5 to "Check that the the matching option values are still displayed in the associated element."
- 20:53:38 [Andi]
- Topic: Proposed GENERAL FAILURE Technique for How to meet 4.1.1: Failure due to insufficient information in DOM to determine one-to-one relationships (e.g., between labels with same id)
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- q?
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- resolution: accept with edits by Christophe
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- ack we
- 20:59:05 [Zakim]
- wendy, you wanted to say that should record not only resolution to adopt requirements but to publish an updated working draft.
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- Topic: Requirements doc revisited
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- resolution: adopt requirements document and publish as a note
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- topic: introduction/conformance
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- resolution: adopt introduction/conformance as edited
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- resolution: editorial changes on LC drafts okay without group review
- 21:02:46 [Becky]
- some people have been spending time creating pages rather than reviewing them :-)
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- -Tim_Boland
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- -Becky_Gibson
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- -Sofia_Celic
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- -John_Slatin
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- -Alex_Li
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- -Katie
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- -Wendy
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- -Michael_Cooper
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- -David_MacDonald.a
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- -Andi_Snow_Weaver
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- -Gregg_and_Ben
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- -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- -Christophe_Strobbe
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- -Bengt_Farre
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- Present: Katie_Haritos-Shea, David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Bengt_Farre, Roberto_Scano, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Alex_Li, John_Slatin, Tim_Boland, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Christophe_Strobbe, Becky_Gibson, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Ben_Caldwell, Michael_Cooper, Sorcha_Moore, Wendy_Chisholm, Cynthia_Shelly, Sofia_Celic, Makoto_Ueki
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- -Makoto_Ueki
- 21:12:38 [wendy]
- gregg and john and ben?
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- -Sorcha_Moore
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- -Cynthia_Shelly
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- -Roberto_Scano
- 21:12:52 [wendy]
- should we talk real quick about the last call comments submission process (form, etc.)?
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- shoot...missed them.
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