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15:51:12 <em> Chair: Tonya
15:51:15 <em> Scribe: EricM
15:51:25 <em> Meeting: Semantic Web HCLSIG Telecon
15:51:29 <em> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2006Feb/0187.html
15:51:42 <em> zakim, this will be HCLS
15:51:42 <Zakim> ok, em; I see SW_HCLS()11:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
15:51:45 <Zakim> SW_HCLS()11:00AM has now started
15:51:50 <em> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:51:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/02/23-hcls-minutes.html em
15:51:52 <Zakim> + +1.412.478.aaaa
15:52:19 <cgi-irc> hi eric!
15:53:17 <em> agenda+Convene, roll call, review record
15:53:28 <em> agenda+ Propose next call March 9, 2006, nominate a scribe 
15:53:36 <em> agenda+ Introductions - New participants since last call.
15:54:06 <em> agenda+ review task template - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2006Feb/att-0187/BioRDF_task_proposal_DRAFT_TEMPLATE.htm
15:54:34 <em> agenda+ Does the Unstructured to Structured Data proposal still stand?  Who are the key participants in this proposal?
15:54:50 <cgi-irc> set nick teds
15:55:25 <cgi-irc> thanks, eric (when will i ever get this down?)
15:55:29 <em> lol
15:55:44 <teds> SAD!
15:56:42 <Zakim> +Ted_Slater
15:57:02 <Zakim> -Ted_Slater
15:57:30 <Zakim> +Ted_Slater
15:58:10 <teds> i need the irc command quick reference guide.
15:58:26 <Zakim> +John_Madden
15:58:56 <Zakim> + +1.301.975.aabb
15:59:33 <Zakim> + +1.312.041.aacc
16:00:03 <Zakim> +??P20
16:00:09 <em> zakim, dial emiller-bos
16:00:09 <Zakim> ok, em; the call is being made
16:00:11 <Zakim> +Emiller
16:00:47 <Zakim> + +1.617.261.aadd
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16:01:01 <em> zakim, +??P20 is Scott_Marshall
16:01:01 <Zakim> sorry, em, I do not recognize a party named '+??P20'
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16:01:19 <Zakim> + +1.919.684.aaee
16:01:19 <em> zakim, +1.617.261.aadd is davide
16:01:20 <Zakim> +davide; got it
16:01:45 <Zakim> +Alan_Ruttenberg
16:01:48 <Zakim> +MichealM
16:01:49 <em> zakim, +1.919.684.aaee is Kensaku_Kawoto
16:01:49 <Zakim> +Kensaku_Kawoto; got it
16:01:54 <Zakim> + +1.216.321.aaff
16:01:57 <Zakim> +Tanya_Hongsermeier
16:02:17 <Zakim> + +1.617.947.aagg
16:02:25 <Zakim> + +1.281.392.aahh
16:02:36 <em> zakim, +1.281.392.aahh is RogerC
16:02:36 <Zakim> +RogerC; got it
16:02:49 <em> zakim, +1.617.947.aagg is TimC
16:02:49 <Zakim> +TimC; got it
16:03:13 <em> zakim, ??P20 is Scott_Marshall
16:03:14 <Zakim> +Scott_Marshall; got it
16:03:32 <Roger> Roger has joined #hcls
16:03:38 <em> zakim, who is here?
16:03:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.412.478.aaaa, Ted_Slater, John_Madden, +1.301.975.aabb, +1.312.041.aacc, Scott_Marshall, Emiller, davide, Kensaku_Kawoto, Alan_Ruttenberg, MichealM,
16:03:44 <Zakim> ... +1.216.321.aaff, Tanya_Hongsermeier, TimC, RogerC
16:03:48 <em> zakim, +1.412.478.aaaa is DonD
16:03:48 <Zakim> On IRC I see Roger, Davide, tonya, RRSAgent, Zakim, em, Don, teds
16:03:53 <Zakim> +DonD; got it
16:04:02 <em> zakim, +1.301.975.aabb is JohnB
16:04:09 <Zakim> +JohnB; got it
16:04:37 <em> zakim, who is here?
16:04:37 <Zakim> On the phone I see DonD, Ted_Slater, John_Madden, JohnB, +1.312.041.aacc, Scott_Marshall, Emiller, davide, Kensaku_Kawoto, Alan_Ruttenberg, MichealM, +1.216.321.aaff,
16:04:44 <Zakim> ... Tanya_Hongsermeier, TimC, RogerC
16:04:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see Roger, Davide, tonya, RRSAgent, Zakim, em, Don, teds
16:04:58 <Zakim> +[Agfa]
16:05:02 <Zakim> +Joanne_Luciano
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16:05:46 <em> zakim, +1.216.321.aaff is Banu 
16:05:47 <Zakim> +Banu; got it
16:06:27 <em> zakim, who is here?
16:06:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see DonD, Ted_Slater, John_Madden, JohnB, +1.312.041.aacc, Scott_Marshall, Emiller, davide, Kensaku_Kawoto, Alan_Ruttenberg, MichealM, Banu, Tanya_Hongsermeier,
16:06:35 <Zakim> ... TimC, RogerC, [Agfa], Joanne_Luciano
16:06:36 <Zakim> On IRC I see PatCroke, alanr, Roger, Davide, tonya, RRSAgent, Zakim, em, Don, teds
16:07:35 <em> list archives -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/
16:08:08 <em> zakim, who is here?
16:08:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see DonD, Ted_Slater, John_Madden, JohnB, +1.312.041.aacc, Scott_Marshall, Emiller, davide, Kensaku_Kawoto, Alan_Ruttenberg, MichealM, Banu, Tanya_Hongsermeier,
16:08:11 <Zakim> ... TimC, RogerC, [Agfa], Joanne_Luciano
16:08:12 <Zakim> On IRC I see PatCroke, alanr, Roger, Davide, tonya, RRSAgent, Zakim, em, Don, Ted_Slater
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16:09:15 <em> zakim, take up agendum 3
16:09:15 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Introductions - New participants since last call." taken up [from em]
16:09:24 <em> zakim, take up agendum 2
16:09:24 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Propose next call March 9, 2006, nominate a scribe" taken up [from em]
16:09:51 <Helen> Helen has joined #HCLS
16:09:52 <Zakim> +John_Madden.a
16:09:58 <em> next meeting: March 9, 2006 (brian to scribe, if not em)
16:10:12 <em> zakim, take up agendum 3
16:10:12 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Introductions - New participants since last call." taken up [from em]
16:10:18 <em> zakim, who is here?
16:10:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see DonD, Ted_Slater, John_Madden, JohnB, +1.312.041.aacc, Scott_Marshall, Emiller, davide, Kensaku_Kawoto, Alan_Ruttenberg, MichealM, Banu, Tanya_Hongsermeier,
16:10:22 <Zakim> ... TimC, RogerC, [Agfa], Joanne_Luciano, John_Madden.a
16:10:23 <Zakim> On IRC I see Helen, JohnMad, PatCroke, alanr, Roger, Davide, RRSAgent, Zakim, em, Don, Ted_Slater
16:12:20 <em> JohnB: (i'm new) computer scientist from NIST, ... intro forthcomming
16:12:39 <em> Banu: Pacific northwest national lab - 
16:12:58 <Zakim> +PatC
16:14:13 <em> Kensaku_Kawoto: from Duke (working on HL7 ) - involved with clinical decision support, proj lead on Decision support project (standardize I/O for patient related work)
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16:15:07 <em> q+ 
16:15:11 <cgi-irc> Joanne here
16:16:26 <cgi-irc> who else needed the IRC URL besides Tim Clark?
16:16:37 <em> scott marshall: from university of amsterdam; new mutidisciplinary group from microarray dept; virtual laboratory research project - focus on knowledge capture in virtual laboratory
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16:17:23 <em> DonD: from brainstage research
16:17:24 <em> q?
16:17:28 <em> ack em
16:17:35 <Zakim> +Christophe_Poulain
16:19:01 <em> zakim, take up agendum 4
16:19:02 <Zakim> agendum 4. "review task template - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2006Feb/att-0187/BioRDF_task_proposal_DRAFT_TEMPLATE.htm" taken up [from em]
16:20:56 <em> tonya: took BioRDF proposal and put it in draft HCLSIG GRDDL task template; http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIGGRDDL
16:21:38 <em> ... try and take existing proposals and reflect this work into a series of tasks
16:22:06 <em> ... wondering if this task-oriented template makes sense ; makes clear on tasks 
16:22:16 <em> John Madden: i like this a lot
16:22:31 <em> ... we have an objective (but no deliverables)
16:22:37 <em> q?
16:23:54 <em> q?
16:23:56 <Roger> q+
16:24:00 <em> ack TimC
16:24:10 <em> timc: i support template; i think its good 
16:24:23 <em> ... as it will help focus on the work
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16:25:07 <alanr> q+
16:25:25 <alanr> q-
16:25:44 <JohnMad> q+
16:26:25 <em> q?
16:27:02 <em> q?
16:27:59 <em> ack Roger
16:28:45 <em> roger: i think the template is fine - from the cutting and pasting from the group i don't think you got this all correct (but i understand this wasnt the specific goal of the excersice)
16:28:50 <em> q+
16:28:56 <em> ack JohnMad
16:29:34 <em> JohnMad, in the GRDDL case, i like the idea of telling stories; i encourage this to be included in others
16:30:00 <em> ... dont suggest making the use cases to formal
16:30:02 <em> q?
16:30:05 <em> ack em
16:31:00 <cgi-irc> q+
16:31:06 <cgi-irc> q
16:31:23 <cgi-irc> how do i add myself to the queue?
16:31:40 <JohnMad> type "q+"
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16:32:00 <cgi-irc> q+
16:32:09 <em> another example - http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIGDataWrappers
16:32:21 <cgi-irc> i type q+ and it tells me that the speaker is on the queue
16:33:11 <em> joanne: support the template; vote for specificity 
16:33:30 <em> q?
16:33:50 <em> ack cgi-irc
16:33:54 <em> ack TimC
16:34:06 <cgi-irc> how do i change my identity
16:34:35 <em> action: timc, to rearticulate proposal in terms of tasks
16:34:53 <JohnMad> Joanne, try "zakim, cgi-irc is Joanne"
16:34:59 <em> action: susie, to rearticular bioRDF proposal in terms of taslks
16:35:01 <em> q+
16:35:29 <alanr> q+
16:35:56 <em> q-
16:37:16 <em> ack alanr
16:37:21 <cgi-irc> zakim, cgi-rdf is Joanne
16:37:21 <Zakim> sorry, cgi-irc, I do not recognize a party named 'cgi-rdf'
16:37:28 <cgi-irc> whoami
16:37:52 <em> action: alanr to create task-oriented template and send instructions to the list 
16:37:57 <cgi-irc> zakim, cgi-irc is Joanne
16:37:57 <Zakim> sorry, cgi-irc, I do not recognize a party named 'cgi-irc'
16:38:11 <Roger> zakim, who is here?
16:38:11 <Zakim> On the phone I see DonD, Ted_Slater, John_Madden, JohnB, +1.312.041.aacc, Scott_Marshall, Emiller, davide, Kensaku_Kawoto, Alan_Ruttenberg, MichealM, Banu, Tanya_Hongsermeier,
16:38:15 <Zakim> ... TimC, RogerC, [Agfa], Joanne_Luciano, John_Madden, Pat_Croke, Christophe_Poulain
16:38:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see tonya, vipul, mscottm, cpoulain, cgi-irc, Helen, JohnMad, PatCroke, alanr, Roger, Davide, RRSAgent, Zakim, em, Don, Ted_Slater
16:38:17 <em> q?
16:38:30 <alanr> a+
16:38:32 <alanr> q+
16:38:43 <Helen> q+
16:39:04 <cgi-irc> cgi-irc is Joanne
16:39:26 <em> ack alanr
16:39:58 <Joanne> Yea!
16:40:03 <Joanne> thanks!
16:40:23 <em> q+ to suggest a 'just do it! philosphy' for the time being
16:40:28 <Helen> how about the resource repository where all rdf/ontology files can be stored?
16:41:01 <Roger> I agree: "Just do it".
16:41:21 <tonya> I agree too!
16:41:21 <em> helen: where is the resource repository for this group? 
16:42:10 <Roger> q+
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16:43:44 <Joanne> Re: em wiki comments, I don't like the wiki interface we're using  
16:44:53 <Roger> There is a W3C listserver address used for file storage.
16:45:40 <Roger> That is, you can send an email to an address with an attachment and that email and attachment goes into an archive.
16:45:53 <Ken> Are there business case and scope statements?
16:46:34 <Roger> q?
16:46:36 <Joanne> ken, do you are there biz case and scope in the tempates?
16:46:47 <Ken> yes
16:47:52 <Joanne> to ken, not yet :-)  I mentioned the scope and interface defs,  but not the biz case. good call. These should all fit into a single vision that we all share
16:48:11 <em> ack Roger
16:48:18 <Helen> q-
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16:50:05 <em> roger, just pointing out, we may be talking past each other (structured v unstructured dabate on list) - want all to remember this 
16:50:39 <em> zakim, take up next agedum
16:50:39 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take up next agedum', em
16:50:47 <em> zakim, take up agedum 5
16:50:47 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take up agedum 5', em
16:50:52 <em> zakim, take up agendum 5
16:50:52 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Does the Unstructured to Structured Data proposal still stand?  Who are the key participants in this proposal?" taken up [from em]
16:51:14 <JohnMad> q+
16:51:31 <em> ack JohnMad
16:52:15 <em> tonya: there was a prpopsal at the F2F about this issue; but its unclear the status of this work
16:52:28 <Roger> I think we should discuss the "straw man" proposal from T Clark.
16:52:51 <Roger> Because I think it brings some really good clarity.
16:52:54 <em> susie: i sent an email to MattC ; discussions are still underway in this area
16:53:25 <em> JohnMad: agree with Roger
16:53:33 <Roger> q+
16:53:34 <em> q?
16:53:40 <Zakim> -TimC
16:53:43 <Davide> susie who's MattC? I would like to help in that group
16:54:12 <em> ack em
16:54:12 <Zakim> em, you wanted to suggest a 'just do it! philosphy' for the time being
16:57:03 <Davide> q+
16:57:45 <em> ack roger
16:58:19 <em> roger: just want to point out that TimC's email is a good one to review
16:58:20 <Davide> q-
16:58:39 <Joanne> Joanne agrees focus on task nuts and bolts, not what they are called.
16:59:01 <Davide> Eric, who's MattC? I can and want help in that group (text to RDF)
16:59:05 <em> tonya: suggest to review this for nex telecon; goal of which between now and then would be to articulate tasks in terms of task forces
16:59:24 <Ken> This project appears very interesting -- will be away during next call but will try to make following call.
16:59:31 <em> Davide, matt@biomedcentral.com - Matthew Cockerill
16:59:41 <Davide> thanks
16:59:54 <em> q?
17:00:21 <mscottm> q+
17:00:35 <em> rrsagent, actions?
17:00:35 <RRSAgent> I'm logging.  Sorry, nothing found for 'actions'
17:00:38 <mscottm> q-
17:00:43 <em> zakim, actions?
17:00:43 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, em.
17:00:54 <em> rrsagent, generate minutes
17:00:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/02/23-hcls-minutes.html em
17:01:15 <em> meeting adjourned
17:01:23 <Ken> Ken has left #hcls
17:03:23 <Zakim> -John_Madden
17:05:06 <Zakim> -Pat_Croke
17:05:29 <Zakim> -MichealM
17:06:37 <Helen> bye every, must go now
17:06:43 <Helen> quit
17:06:57 <em> alan, 2 task examples -> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIGDataWrappers http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIGGRDDL
17:07:12 <JohnMad> q+
17:07:15 <Ted_Slater> bye
17:07:16 <Zakim> -[Agfa]
17:07:23 <em> both of these point back to http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIGTask (which can be used to help list all of the HCLSIG 'tasks')
17:07:24 <Zakim> -Ted_Slater
17:07:37 <em> but other groupings might make sense (e.g. by use case, application domain, etc.)
17:07:42 <Zakim> -Scott_Marshall
17:07:48 <Zakim> -Tanya_Hongsermeier
17:07:58 <Zakim> -Kensaku_Kawoto
17:12:11 <Zakim> -Banu
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17:13:13 <Zakim> -John_Madden
17:16:59 <Zakim> -JohnB
17:17:18 <Zakim> -davide
17:17:19 <Zakim> -Christophe_Poulain
17:17:20 <Zakim> - +1.312.041.aacc
17:19:08 <em> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIGTask
17:21:29 <Zakim> -Emiller
17:21:41 <em> doh
17:21:50 <em> oh well; time to go :)
17:21:58 <Joanne> what does "doh" mean?
17:22:05 <Joanne> duh?
17:22:10 <em> yep :)
17:22:18 <Joanne> ok.  havea good one.
17:22:22 <em> doh  ... same as knocking head on wall
17:22:31 <em> i seemed to have been disconnected mid statement
17:22:37 <Joanne> :-(
17:22:47 <em> ah well; talk with you all on list :)
17:25:08 <alanr> http://esw.w3.org/topic/TitleIndex
17:25:12 <Zakim> -DonD
17:26:24 <Zakim> -Joanne_Luciano
17:29:17 <Zakim> -RogerC
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17:29:20 <Zakim> Attendees were Ted_Slater, John_Madden, +1.312.041.aacc, Emiller, davide, Alan_Ruttenberg, MichealM, Kensaku_Kawoto, Tanya_Hongsermeier, RogerC, TimC, Scott_Marshall, DonD, JohnB,
17:29:22 <Zakim> ... [Agfa], Joanne_Luciano, Banu, PatC, Christophe_Poulain
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