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23:01:39 <Michael> meeting: WCAG Team C
23:01:42 <Michael> chair: Michael Cooper
23:02:59 <Michael> regrets: Andi Snow-Weaver, Sofia Celic, Tim Boland
23:03:10 <Michael> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag-teamc/2006Feb/0011.html
23:03:25 <Michael> zakim, who's here?
23:03:25 <Zakim> On the phone I see Michael_Cooper
23:03:26 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Michael, Makoto
23:03:34 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
23:03:35 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
23:03:36 <Makoto> zakim, [IPcaller] is Makoto_Ueki
23:03:37 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
23:03:38 <Zakim> +Makoto_Ueki; got it
23:05:31 <Michael> topic: Issue 1669 <http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/2006-02-02-4_2/results#x1669>
23:07:08 <Michael> resolution: accept Ben's proposal from survey to close with comment, and take back to group
23:07:54 <Michael> topic: Technique keyboard and device-specific functions <http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/2006-02-02-2_1-techs/results#xtech1>
23:09:13 <Michael> action: Michael make changes proposed in survey
23:09:47 <Michael> topic: Technique failure for mouse-only events <http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/2006-02-02-2_1-techs/results#xtech2>
23:10:13 <Michael> action: Michael make changes proposed in survey
23:11:10 <Michael> topic: Ensuring that users are not trapped in content <http://tinyurl.com/dv7zm>
23:13:47 <Michael> resolution: take this technique to survey
23:14:08 <Michael> topic: Providing keyboard-controllable event handlers <http://tinyurl.com/96d2t>
23:15:39 <Michael> resolution: take this technique to survey
23:16:01 <Michael> topic: Failure due to using script to remove focus when focus is received <http://tinyurl.com/9bskn>
23:18:18 <Michael> scribe: Michael
23:21:15 <Michael> resolution: adopt following for description - Content that normally receives focus when the content is accessed by keyboard may have this focus removed by scripting. While this is done to remove an undesired visual focus indicator, it removes the keyboard focus completely. This typically means the content can only be accessed by a pointer device, such as a mouse.
23:25:33 <Michael> resolution: test case should refer to blur() method, not focus onto another element, which wouldn't have the focus-hiding effect the technique discusses.
23:25:44 <Michael> resolution: accept remaining changes suggested in wiki and take to survey.
23:26:40 <Michael> topic: Providing a script on page that warns the user a timeout is about to expire <http://tinyurl.com/deqv7>
23:31:51 <Michael> ASW raises a question about how to identify delivery units covered, but we think it's covered by applicability
23:32:10 <Michael> resolution: accept remaining changes suggested in wiki and take to survey
23:32:55 <Michael> topic: Allowing the user to extend the default timeout <http://tinyurl.com/cpupv>
23:33:14 <Michael> comments from Tim: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag-teamc/2006Feb/0004.html
23:34:47 <Michael> action: Tim to make changes in wiki based on his comments, then discuss in a call when he's present
23:35:15 <Michael> topic: Polling the server and triggering a warning to the user when a session timeout is imminent <http://tinyurl.com/e3n3g>
23:35:21 <Michael> action: Tim to make changes in wiki based on his comments, then discuss in a call when he's present
23:35:37 <Michael> topic: Failure due to using meta redirect <http://tinyurl.com/bwg5r>
23:38:21 <Michael> resolution: no changes to examples, copy examples to test files, and take to survey
23:39:31 <Michael> resolution: clarify in header to examples that Example 1 is a example of the failure technique, i.e., a "bad" thing to do. Example 2 is a counter-example, good to do but contrary to the failure technique.
23:39:49 <Michael> action: Michael to write headers for examples
23:40:10 <Michael> topic: Failure due to using meta refresh <http://tinyurl.com/8m2cf>
23:41:40 <Michael> resolution: remove example 2
23:43:20 <Michael>  resolution: add following to end of description - Sighted users may also be disoriented by the unexpected refresh.
23:43:25 <Michael> resolution: add following to end of description - Sighted users may also be disoriented by the unexpected refresh.
23:43:56 <Michael> resolution: accept with above changes and take to survey
23:44:23 <Michael> topic: Failure due to using server-side techniques to automatically redirect pages after a timeout <http://tinyurl.com/ddts8>
23:49:21 <Michael> action: Michael to raise Andi's questions about this on the GL list
23:49:42 <Michael> topic: Ensuring content blinks for less than three seconds <http://tinyurl.com/az2gd>
23:50:52 <Michael> resolution: take to survey
23:53:43 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
23:53:47 <Zakim> -Makoto_Ueki
23:53:49 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()6:00PM has ended
23:53:50 <Zakim> Attendees were Michael_Cooper, Makoto_Ueki
23:54:00 <Michael> zakim, bye
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23:54:03 <Michael> rrsagent, bye
23:54:03 <RRSAgent> I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/13-wcag-teamc-actions.rdf :
23:54:03 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael make changes proposed in survey [1]
23:54:03 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/13-wcag-teamc-irc#T23-09-13
23:54:03 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael make changes proposed in survey [2]
23:54:03 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/13-wcag-teamc-irc#T23-10-13
23:54:03 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Tim to make changes in wiki based on his comments, then discuss in a call when he's present [3]
23:54:03 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/13-wcag-teamc-irc#T23-34-47
23:54:03 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Tim to make changes in wiki based on his comments, then discuss in a call when he's present [4]
23:54:03 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/13-wcag-teamc-irc#T23-35-21
23:54:03 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael to write headers for examples [5]
23:54:03 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/13-wcag-teamc-irc#T23-39-49
23:54:03 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael to raise Andi's questions about this on the GL list [6]
23:54:03 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/13-wcag-teamc-irc#T23-49-21