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20:51:20 <ben> RRSAgent, do not start a new log
20:51:30 <ben> RRSAgent, make log world
20:51:47 <ben> Meeting: WCAG Weekly Teleconference
20:52:20 <ben> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006JanMar/0023.html
20:52:32 <ben> agenda+ Programmatically determined, supported by AT, etc. (max. 30 minutes) 
20:52:43 <ben> agenda+ Draft techniques for 1.1 
20:53:00 <ben> agenda+ Draft techniques for 1.3 
20:53:13 <ben> agenda+ Misc. Questions for 22 December Telecon 
20:53:23 <ben> agenda+ Issues for Guideline 4.1 
20:53:34 <ben> agenda+ General Issues
20:55:38 <ben> Regrets: Roberto_Ellero, Gez_Lemon, Roberto_Scano, Sebastiano_Nutarelli, Takayuki_Watanabe
20:56:03 <ben> chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden and John_Slatin
20:56:31 <Yvette> Yvette has joined #wai-wcag
20:56:55 <Yvette> hi guys
20:57:03 <ben> RRSAgent, off
21:00:33 <Makoto> Makoto has joined #wai-wcag
21:00:33 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has now started
21:00:40 <Zakim> +??P0
21:00:47 <ben> zakim, ??P0 is Ben_Caldwell
21:00:47 <Zakim> +Ben_Caldwell; got it
21:01:02 <Zakim> +??P2
21:01:08 <bengt> zakim,??P2 is Bengt_Farre
21:01:08 <Zakim> +Bengt_Farre; got it
21:01:13 <jslatinOFHNetIRC> jslatinOFHNetIRC has joined #wai-wcag
21:01:24 <Zakim> +Sofia_Celic
21:01:25 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
21:01:26 <Zakim> +Gregg_Vanderheiden
21:01:36 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
21:01:53 <Zakim> +John_Slatin
21:02:02 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
21:02:13 <Zakim> + +1.724.9.aaaa
21:02:14 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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21:02:17 <Makoto> zakim, [IPcaller] is Makoto_Ueki
21:02:17 <Zakim> +Makoto_Ueki; got it
21:02:30 <Yvette> zakim, +1.724.9.aaaa is Yvette_Hoitink
21:02:30 <Zakim> +Yvette_Hoitink; got it
21:02:36 <Yvette> zakim, I am Yvette_Hoitink
21:02:36 <Zakim> ok, Yvette, I now associate you with Yvette_Hoitink
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21:03:13 <Zakim> +Christophe_Strobbe
21:04:34 <Zakim> +Alex_Li
21:04:36 <Zakim> +??P13
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21:05:08 <Yvette> zakim, mute me
21:05:08 <Zakim> Yvette_Hoitink should now be muted
21:05:12 <ben> zakim, ??P13 is Katie_Haritos_Shea
21:05:12 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos_Shea; got it
21:05:21 <ben> zakim, who is on the phone?
21:05:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ben_Caldwell, Bengt_Farre, Sofia_Celic, Michael_Cooper, Gregg_Vanderheiden, David_MacDonald, John_Slatin, Tim_Boland, Yvette_Hoitink (muted), Makoto_Ueki,
21:05:24 <Zakim> ... Christophe_Strobbe, Alex_Li, Katie_Haritos_Shea
21:05:48 <Zakim> +Judy
21:06:41 <ben> agenda?
21:06:55 <ben> zakim, take up agendum 1
21:06:55 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Programmatically determined, supported by AT, etc. (max. 30 minutes)" taken up [from ben]
21:07:00 <ben> scribe: David
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21:07:42 <Zakim> -Gregg_Vanderheiden
21:08:15 <Zakim> +Gregg_Vanderheiden
21:08:51 <Zakim> +Andi_Snow_Weaver
21:08:58 <Zakim> +Becky_Gibson
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21:11:37 <Zakim> +Kerstin_Goldsmith
21:17:56 <ben> ack Tim
21:18:32 <Zakim> -Kerstin_Goldsmith
21:18:38 <Judy> q+
21:19:04 <Zakim> +Kerstin_Goldsmith
21:19:38 <Zakim> -Kerstin_Goldsmith
21:19:46 <ben> ack Alex
21:19:49 <ben> ack Judy
21:21:03 <ben> ack John
21:22:27 <Zakim> +Kerstin_Goldsmith
21:27:27 <Christophe> Zakim, mute me
21:27:27 <Zakim> Christophe_Strobbe should now be muted
21:27:40 <ben> ack John
21:31:44 <Yvette> q+ to say "30 minutes is up"
21:31:53 <Yvette> q-
21:31:58 <ben> ack Alex
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21:33:20 <ben> ack Katie
21:35:38 <ben> q+
21:36:26 <ben> q-
21:37:35 <ben> zakim, close this item
21:37:35 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
21:37:36 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
21:37:37 <Zakim> 2. Draft techniques for 1.1 [from ben]
21:37:40 <ben> zakim, take up agendum 2
21:37:40 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Draft techniques for 1.1" taken up [from ben]
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21:38:18 <David> Topic: Draft Techniques for 1.1
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21:43:15 <bengt> zakim, who is making noise ?
21:43:27 <Zakim> bengt, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Ben_Caldwell (39%), Gregg_Vanderheiden (71%)
21:43:33 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
21:45:07 <David> resoution: adopt 1.1  Proposed General Technique for  How to meet 1.1.1 Providing a long description in text near the non-text content ...." with edits propsed by John Slatin
21:46:06 <Yvette> zakim, unmute me
21:46:06 <Zakim> Yvette_Hoitink should no longer be muted
21:47:05 <David> s/resoution/resolution
21:49:28 <Yvette> q+
21:49:36 <ben> ack John
21:52:20 <ben> ack Yvette
21:54:27 <ben> ack Katie
21:54:29 <gregg> q+
21:56:38 <Zakim> -Kerstin_Goldsmith
21:57:56 <ben> ack gregg
21:58:03 <ben> ack John
21:58:44 <David> resolution: 1.1.1 long description explanation sent back to the committee with comments.  "Providing a long description in another location..." 
22:03:14 <Yvette> q+
22:03:39 <Becky> q+
22:08:44 <ben> ack Yvette
22:17:30 <Zakim> +Kerstin_Goldsmith
22:18:38 <ben> ack Becky
22:19:51 <David> resolution: the editors will not include in the wikki headers or sections that will not change. The only exception will be if there are major rewrites to a section, in which case, the editors will copy the whole section back to the wikki.
22:22:28 <David> zakim, mute Tim_Boland
22:22:28 <Zakim> Tim_Boland should now be muted
22:25:20 <Christophe> zakim, unmute me
22:25:20 <Zakim> Christophe_Strobbe should no longer be muted
22:26:03 <David> resolution: unanimously accept 1.1 "failure due to using text alternatives that are not alternatives...."
22:26:41 <ben> zakim, who's making noise?
22:26:53 <Zakim> ben, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Loretta_Guarino_Reid (45%), Kerstin_Goldsmith (4%), Gregg_Vanderheiden (58%), Makoto_Ueki (5%), John_Slatin (22%),
22:26:56 <Zakim> ... Katie_Haritos_Shea (4%)
22:26:58 <Yvette> zakim, mute me
22:26:58 <Zakim> Yvette_Hoitink should now be muted
22:28:30 <Yvette> zakim, unmute me
22:28:30 <Zakim> Yvette_Hoitink should no longer be muted
22:28:53 <Makoto> zakim, mute me
22:28:53 <Zakim> Makoto_Ueki should now be muted
22:29:29 <Tim> Tim has left #wai-wcag
22:30:54 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
22:31:41 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
22:34:26 <Yvette> zakim, mute me
22:34:26 <Zakim> Yvette_Hoitink should now be muted
22:37:38 <ben> ack John
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22:42:41 <David> note:  1.1.1 tests change the words "remove and replace" to "remove, replace, hide, mask or turn off"
22:43:52 <ben> agenda?
22:43:58 <ben> zakim, close this item
22:44:01 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
22:44:02 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
22:44:03 <Zakim> 3. Draft techniques for 1.3 [from ben]
22:44:06 <ben> zakim, take up agendum 3
22:44:06 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Draft techniques for 1.3" taken up [from ben]
22:44:47 <Yvette> zakim, unmute me
22:44:47 <Zakim> Yvette_Hoitink should no longer be muted
22:45:59 <David> topic: Draft techniques for 1.3
22:48:58 <David> resolution: unanimous consent to Remove "functionality" from the guideline text
22:50:00 <David> rationale: There are no SC that deal w/ functionality under 1.3 and functionaltity are addresses in other SC throughout the GL DOC
22:50:49 <David> s/addresses/addressed
22:56:31 <Andi> q+
22:56:43 <Andi> q-
22:58:58 <Yvette> zakim, unmute me
22:58:59 <Zakim> Yvette_Hoitink was not muted, Yvette
22:59:33 <Makoto> zakim, unmute me
22:59:33 <Zakim> Makoto_Ueki should no longer be muted
23:00:09 <ben> ack John
23:00:26 <Yvette> zakim, mute me
23:00:26 <Zakim> Yvette_Hoitink should now be muted
23:01:43 <David> note: sending "Definition of "variations in presentation of text" back
23:02:47 <ben> zakim, close this item
23:02:47 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
23:02:48 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
23:02:49 <Zakim> 4. Misc. Questions for 22 December Telecon [from ben]
23:02:53 <ben> zakim, close item 4
23:02:53 <Zakim> agendum 4, Misc. Questions for 22 December Telecon, closed
23:02:54 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
23:02:55 <Zakim> 5. Issues for Guideline 4.1 [from ben]
23:02:57 <ben> zakim, close item 5
23:02:57 <Zakim> agendum 5, Issues for Guideline 4.1, closed
23:02:58 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
23:02:59 <Zakim> 6. General Issues [from ben]
23:03:02 <ben> zakim, close item 6
23:03:02 <Zakim> agendum 6, General Issues, closed
23:03:03 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
23:04:42 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
23:04:43 <Zakim> -Sofia_Celic
23:04:44 <Zakim> -Becky_Gibson
23:04:45 <Zakim> -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
23:04:46 <Zakim> -Kerstin_Goldsmith
23:04:48 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
23:04:49 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos_Shea
23:04:51 <Zakim> -Yvette_Hoitink
23:04:51 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
23:04:52 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow_Weaver
23:04:54 <Zakim> -Bengt_Farre
23:04:58 <Zakim> -Makoto_Ueki
23:05:02 <Zakim> -Ben_Caldwell
23:05:10 <bengt> bengt has left #wai-wcag
23:06:05 <ben> zakim, who is on the phone?
23:06:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see John_Slatin, Judy, Gregg_Vanderheiden
23:06:08 <Zakim> -John_Slatin
23:06:09 <Zakim> -Gregg_Vanderheiden
23:06:22 <Christophe> Christophe has left #wai-wcag
23:06:42 <jslatinOFHNetIRC> zakim, who is on the phone?
23:06:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see Judy
23:07:25 <Zakim> -Judy
23:07:26 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
23:07:27 <Zakim> Attendees were Ben_Caldwell, Bengt_Farre, Sofia_Celic, Michael_Cooper, Gregg_Vanderheiden, David_MacDonald, John_Slatin, Tim_Boland, Makoto_Ueki, Yvette_Hoitink,
23:07:29 <Zakim> ... Christophe_Strobbe, Alex_Li, Katie_Haritos_Shea, Judy, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Becky_Gibson, Kerstin_Goldsmith, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
23:08:03 <ben> zakim, bye
23:08:03 <Zakim> Zakim has left #wai-wcag
23:13:48 <ben> Present: Alex_Li, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Becky_Gibson, Ben_Caldwell, Bengt_Farre, Christophe_Strobbe, David_MacDonald, Gregg_Vanderheiden, John_Slatin, Judy_Brewer, Katie_Haritos_Shea, Kerstin_Goldsmith, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Makoto_Ueki, Michael_Cooper, Sofia_Celic, Tim_Boland, Yvette_Hoitink 
23:22:47 <ben> RRSAgent, bye
23:22:47 <RRSAgent> I see no action items