ISSUE-133: MINIMIZE

MINIMIZE

State:

CLOSED

Product:

mobileOK Basic tests

Raised by:

Jo Rabin

Opened on:

2006-08-31

Description:

I suggest that we consider making the test stricter.

e.g. if there is a sequence of 3 or more whitespace characters in any element
that can contain text, other than pre, or one styled to format like pre
(white-space: pre), then WARN, 10 or more FAIL. cr,lf sequence counts as one
character.

We\'d ideally also think of a rule that allowed layout of non-text elements but
not the 10s of lines Andrea refers to.

\"The 10% rule is a problem, I think.\"

(A document containing just the above contains over 20% white space)




Earlier Correspondence:

If there is a machine test for this, I think it must necessarily be
strict or else it becomes hard to identify what is reasonable. Do we
allow tabs but not spaces? Maybe a certain percentage of whitespace
relative to non-whitespace characters?

But I agree, there are simply very many sites that don\'t strip all
whitespace. On the one hand we want to encourage adoption, and thus
should \"pick our battles\" in what we insist upon for even Level 1.
This is arguably not as important as the other tests. On the other
hand, there\'s a sense that we may be too lenient in Level 1 to begin
with, so we should be strict here.

I favor keeping the test and possibly converting this to a
percentage-based test: no more than 10% of characters can be
whitespace that could be removed?

On 7/26/06, Andrea Trasatti <andrea@trasatti.it> wrote:
>
> Current Text:
> If whitespace exists outside of a pre tag, XML comment or CDATA
> section, FAIL
>
> Isn\'t this too restrictive? Didn\'t we say something \"reasonable\"? I
> remember the \"tough\" performance justifications for this, but setting
> a FAIL because I used tabs to indent sounds too restrictive to me. I
> agree on avoiding tens of blanks lines on top or bottom of pages, but
> this sounds too much to me.
>
> - Andrea
>
>
>

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1. mobileOK Basic Tests Version 1n (from jo@linguafranca.org on 2006-10-06)
2. [minutes] Summary of our Gijon F2F (from dom@w3.org on 2006-10-04)
3. Re: ISSUE-133: MINIMIZE (from chaals@opera.com on 2006-09-11)
4. Re: ISSUE-133: MINIMIZE (from andrea@trasatti.it on 2006-09-10)
5. RE: ISSUE-133: MINIMIZE (from luca.passani@openwave.com on 2006-09-10)
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8. RE: ISSUE-133: MINIMIZE (from luca.passani@openwave.com on 2006-09-09)
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10. Re: ISSUE-133: MINIMIZE (from timur.mehrvarz@web.de on 2006-09-09)
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15. RE: ISSUE-133: MINIMIZE (from jo@linguafranca.org on 2006-09-08)
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