12:57:17 RRSAgent has joined #MMTF 12:57:21 logging to http://www.w3.org/2005/11/02-MMTF-irc 12:57:21 busy ... 12:57:22 :-) 12:57:34 i know the feeling :) 12:58:01 Raphael has joined #MMTF 12:58:02 This is my last day before traveling to Galway... 12:58:19 hi Chris 12:58:26 Jacco has changed the topic to: SWBPD MultiMedia TF 12:58:36 hi Rapheal 12:58:40 rrsagent, chair: Jacco 12:58:40 I'm logging. I don't understand 'chair: Jacco', Jacco. Try /msg RRSAgent help 13:00:33 zakim, this is MMTF 13:00:33 ok, Jacco; that matches SW_BPD(MMTF)8:00AM 13:00:46 zakim, who is here? 13:00:46 On the phone I see ??P2 13:00:48 On IRC I see Raphael, RRSAgent, Zakim, Jacco, chalaschek 13:01:03 +Chris_Halaschek-Wiener 13:01:20 vassilis has joined #MMTF 13:01:33 zakim, ??P2 is Jacco 13:01:33 +Jacco; got it 13:01:44 hi vassilis 13:01:53 zakim, who is here? 13:01:53 On the phone I see Jacco, Chris_Halaschek-Wiener 13:01:54 On IRC I see vassilis, Raphael, RRSAgent, Zakim, Jacco, chalaschek 13:02:11 +??P5 13:02:33 Vassilis, the logs and minutes will be at http://www.w3.org/2005/11/02-MMTF-irc 13:02:54 zakim, ??P5 is Raphael 13:02:54 +Raphael; got it 13:03:53 +Giorgos_Stamou 13:04:09 zakim, chair is Jacco 13:04:09 sorry, Jacco, I do not recognize a party named 'chair' 13:04:35 zakim, mute Giorgos_Stamou 13:04:35 Giorgos_Stamou should now be muted 13:05:00 zakim, unmute Giorgos_Stamou 13:05:00 Giorgos_Stamou should no longer be muted 13:05:06 zakim, mute Giorgos_Stamou 13:05:07 +Giorgos_Stamou.a 13:05:09 Giorgos_Stamou should now be muted 13:05:39 zakim, unmute Giorgos_Stamou 13:05:39 Giorgos_Stamou should no longer be muted 13:05:45 zakim, mute Giorgos_Stamou 13:05:45 Giorgos_Stamou should now be muted 13:06:18 +Giorgos_Stamou.aa 13:06:28 vassilis, we get classic music from your phone. 13:07:25 zakim, unmute Giorgos_Stamou 13:07:25 'Giorgos_Stamou' is ambiguous, Jacco 13:07:37 -Giorgos_Stamou 13:08:04 zakim, unmute Giorgos_Stamou.a 13:08:04 Giorgos_Stamou.a was not muted, Jacco 13:08:11 zakim, unmute Giorgos_Stamou.aa 13:08:11 Giorgos_Stamou.aa was not muted, Jacco 13:08:25 zakim, who is here? 13:08:25 On the phone I see Jacco, Chris_Halaschek-Wiener, Raphael, Giorgos_Stamou.a, Giorgos_Stamou.aa 13:08:28 On IRC I see vassilis, Raphael, RRSAgent, Zakim, Jacco, chalaschek 13:08:30 +Nikolaos_Simou 13:08:57 zakim, Giorgos_Stamou.a is Vassilis 13:08:57 +Vassilis; got it 13:09:16 list attendees 13:09:46 zakim, list attendees 13:09:46 As of this point the attendees have been Chris_Halaschek-Wiener, Jacco, Raphael, Giorgos_Stamou, Nikolaos_Simou, Vassilis 13:09:59 zakim, list participants 13:09:59 As of this point the attendees have been Chris_Halaschek-Wiener, Jacco, Raphael, Giorgos_Stamou, Nikolaos_Simou, Vassilis 13:10:41 i will scribe 13:11:13 Jacco: ALL: read carefully the full document and the use cases 13:12:02 vasilis has joined #mmtf 13:12:02 Giorgos has joined #mmtf 13:12:24 ACTION: ALL send feedback to the TF about the document, use cases, solutions ... 13:12:37 Surprised! I have a public wireless in my home! 13:17:23 Monday in Galway: TF have a dinner :-) 13:18:33 Second deliverable structure ... 13:20:55 -Nikolaos_Simou 13:21:41 +Nikolaos_Simou 13:23:46 giorgos: propose to split syntactic and semantic interoperability 13:24:15 Jacco and Raphael: how much will be in the syntax part? 13:24:35 is it useful to make this separation 13:26:49 giorgos, yes, conversion is one thing but alignment still needs to be done 13:28:51 syntax issues: from owl to non-owl, and vice versa 13:29:33 nikolaos: only images? 13:32:13 Jacco: yes, but we can discuss all more general standards to the extent they apply also to images 13:32:45 Raphael: borderline between feasability study and make conversion tools ourself 13:32:54 ? 13:33:23 jacco it was vassilis taling about interoperability 13:33:29 not nikos 13:34:11 Giorgos: jjc once stated he could help with conversion tools, we should ask him in Galway 13:34:34 vasilis, sorry for the mix up 13:35:27 vasilis: previous work and projects on semantic interoperability 13:35:52 Chris: hard to scope 13:36:21 vasilis: link on resource pages 13:37:00 giorgos: mention also in intro 13:37:28 jacco: do we need use cases for 2nd deliverable? 13:37:53 vasilis: yes ,the issues are different for different domains 13:38:59 Giorgos: 2nd deliverable is more abstract, we should not go into the individual tools 13:43:28 Giorgos: we do not have time to do more, unless we have more work 13:45:13 Raphael, ok, we can discuss this further in Galway. It is still not clear to me what is a good depth for the 2nd document 13:52:43 Jacco: prepare a 15 minuts talk about the deliverable and then focus on the reviews 13:53:34 Jacco: it is beeter to hove one presentation 13:53:43 intro + deliverable 13:54:07 Action: Jacco prepares the slides for Galway 13:58:20 -Giorgos_Stamou.aa 13:58:22 -Chris_Halaschek-Wiener 13:58:23 -Vassilis 13:58:23 -Raphael 13:58:29 -Jacco 13:58:41 RSSagent, draft minutes 13:58:48 -Nikolaos_Simou 13:58:50 SW_BPD(MMTF)8:00AM has ended 13:58:51 Attendees were Chris_Halaschek-Wiener, Jacco, Raphael, Giorgos_Stamou, Nikolaos_Simou, Vassilis 13:59:47 RSSAgent, draft minutes 14:00:52 RSSAgent, format minutes 14:02:15 rrsagent, make logs public 14:02:30 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:02:30 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2005/11/02-MMTF-minutes.html Jacco 15:24:43 Zakim has left #MMTF 16:21:17 Jacco has left #MMTF