17:55:55 RRSAgent has joined #wcag-teama 17:55:55 logging to http://www.w3.org/2005/09/27-wcag-teama-irc 17:56:02 zakim, list conferences 17:56:02 I see WS_(F2F)12:00PM active 17:56:03 also scheduled at this time are WAI_(WCAGA)2:00PM, WS_WSCG()1:00PM, XML_QueryWG(tf)1:00PM, TAG_Weekly()12:30PM, SW_BPD(SETF)1:00PM 17:56:09 zakim, this will be WAI 17:56:09 ok, ben; I see WAI_(WCAGA)2:00PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes 17:56:37 Meeting: WCAG Team A Weekly Telecon 17:57:11 Christophe has joined #wcag-teama 17:57:18 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag-teama/2005Sep/0068.html 17:57:31 agenda+ Proposals from Gez regarding definitions for "focus" and "change in 17:57:31 content" vs. "change in context" 17:57:42 agenda+ David's draft on L2 SC3 17:57:50 agenda+ Guideline 3.2 Issue Summary 17:58:00 agenda+ Review of draft guide documents and techniques 17:58:07 agenda+ Remaining to-do items for guideline 3.2 17:59:58 ChrisR has joined #wcag-teama 18:00:06 Regrets: Alex_Li, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Sebastiano_Nutarelli, Roberto_Castaldo 18:00:26 WAI_(WCAGA)2:00PM has now started 18:00:33 +David_MacDonald 18:01:02 +??P3 18:01:07 zakim, ??P3 is Ben_Caldwell 18:01:07 +Ben_Caldwell; got it 18:02:02 +[IPcaller] 18:02:05 chair: Ben_Caldwell 18:02:21 +Gez_Lemon 18:02:23 +Christophe_Strobbe 18:02:23 zakim, [IPcaller] is Chris_Ridpath 18:02:23 +Chris_Ridpath; got it 18:02:44 +Neil_Soiffer 18:03:00 Gez has joined #wcag-teama 18:04:10 Neil has joined #wcag-teama 18:04:30 zakim, take up agendum 1 18:04:30 agendum 1. "Proposals from Gez regarding definitions for "focus" and "change in" taken up [from ben] 18:05:07 Gez's proposal: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag-teama/2005Sep/0045.html 18:07:42 discussing: should we define "focus"? 18:08:41 David has joined #wcag-teama 18:08:44 test 18:10:27 scribe: David 18:11:02 http://juicystudio.com/wcag/l2sc2.html 18:11:42 BC: There appears to be support from the group to define focus...the quesiton is what defn to use 18:12:26 proposal (from Gez): The component that is currently selected. 18:17:56 Neil has joined #wcag-teama 18:19:25 */me proposal (from Gez): The component that is currently selected. 18:21:28 resolution: bring the defn of focus from Gez to the group "The component that is currently selected." 18:24:20 Gez's proposal with regard to intent for SC with "change of context" http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag-teama/2005Sep/0072.html 18:27:35 change of context: A change of user agent, viewport, or focus; or a change of content that changes the meaning of the delivery unit. A change of context should not be confused with change of content. Small changes in content, such as an expanding outline or dynamic menu, do not change the context. 18:28:25 Resonlution: put a note to the Defn of "Chage of Conxt to read " "A change of context should not be confused with change of content. Small changes in content, such as an expanding outline or dynamic menu, do not change the context" 18:29:09 s/Resonlution/resolution 18:29:58 s/Chage of Conxt/Change of Context 18:30:40 Resolution: proposal: A change of user agent, viewport, or focus; or a change of content that changes the meaning of the delivery unit. 18:31:04 zakim, take up agendum 18:31:04 I don't understand 'take up agendum', ben 18:31:11 zakim, take up agendum 2 18:31:11 agendum 2. "David's draft on L2 SC3" taken up [from ben] 18:31:21 proposal: http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Guide_to_3.2_L2_SC3 18:41:59 action: David to write a general technique for 3.2 level 2, SC3 18:45:35 zakim, take up agendum 3 18:45:35 agendum 3. "Guideline 3.2 Issue Summary" taken up [from ben] 18:46:55 Issue summary: http://tinyurl.com/bco6y 18:49:26 boneyard: http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Guideline_3.2#Boneyard 18:56:53 resolution: close issue 767 it has been summariezed by ben and put into the boneyard. 18:58:09 resolution: close issue 1172. We have changed the benefits section. We will take this to the larger group and the reviewer 18:58:41 resolution: close issues 1408. addressed by our defn of same relative order 18:58:45 http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1410 19:01:17 resolution: close 1410 overcome by recent rewording. 19:01:20 http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1411 19:03:42 action: Alex to address concers arising from bug 1411 in his "intent section" 3.2 L3 SC1 19:04:23 s/concers/concerns 19:04:26 http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1458 19:05:50 http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1510 19:06:26 resolution: close 1458. Overcome by events. bjectional Wording no longer in doc 19:06:38 s/bjectional/objectional 19:08:53 resolution: close 1510, overcome by events 19:08:57 http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1517 19:11:04 proposal: revised l3 SC1 to read, "Text alternatives for non-text content that appears on multiple delivery units are consistent." 19:12:23 s/appears/appear 19:15:13 resolution: proposal: revised l3 SC1 to read, "Text alternatives for non-text content that appears on multiple delivery units are consistent." 19:15:33 http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1522 19:16:59 action: Ben to assigne this bug to 1.4 where it applies more directly 19:17:11 s/assigne/assign 19:17:40 http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1568 19:19:37 resolution: close 1568, we have clarified change in context and change in content 19:21:39 action: Gez to look at bug 1568 to see if applies and what he can do about it. 19:22:15 resolution: keep bug 1568 open Gez will look at it. 19:23:35 http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1569 19:24:41 resolution: close pending resolution in change in context 19:24:59 http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1570 19:25:01 resolution: close bug 1569 pending resolution in change in context 19:29:05 resolution: adopt suggestion in bug 1569 except make the current Level 2 SC 2 to Level 2 SC1. This will associate better with the Level 1 SC1 and will put the two associated sc together in L2SC 2 and 3 19:30:25 resolution: close bug 1571 based on resolution to 1517 19:31:09 http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1716 19:31:40 resolution: close bug 1716, overcome by events 19:31:47 http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1747 19:37:39 resolution: close bug 1747 because is covered Guideline 2.1 L1SC1 because if a Javascript menu goes to the first item automatically when the user down arrows on the first menu item, the menu will not be useable 19:37:49 http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=496 19:38:39 resolution: close the bug... Ben harvested the techniques in it and put them in the the boneyard 19:40:22 http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=774 19:40:44 resolution: close bug 496... Ben harvested the techniques in it and put them in the the boneyard 19:41:40 resolution: close issue 496, it is covered by previous resolutions to 1571 and 1517 19:42:26 s/496/774 19:42:51 http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1413 19:43:06 resolution: close bug 1413, the SC no longer exists 19:43:58 zakim, close this item 19:43:58 agendum 3 closed 19:43:59 I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 19:44:00 1. Proposals from Gez regarding definitions for "focus" and "change in [from ben] 19:45:00 http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Guideline_3.2 19:45:21 http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Guide_to_3.2_L2_SC2 19:48:05 zakim, next agendum 19:48:05 agendum 1. "Proposals from Gez regarding definitions for "focus" and "change in" taken up [from ben] 19:48:15 zakim, close this item 19:48:15 agendum 1 closed 19:48:17 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 19:48:19 2. David's draft on L2 SC3 [from ben] 19:48:24 zakim, close agendum 2 19:48:24 agendum 2, David's draft on L2 SC3, closed 19:48:25 I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 19:48:27 4. Review of draft guide documents and techniques [from ben] 19:48:29 zakim, close agendum 3 19:48:29 agendum 3, Guideline 3.2 Issue Summary, closed 19:48:30 I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 19:48:31 4. Review of draft guide documents and techniques [from ben] 19:48:34 zakim, take up agendum 4 19:48:34 agendum 4. "Review of draft guide documents and techniques" taken up [from ben] 19:58:36 action: Neil will rewrite the example in the intent section of Level 2 SC2 19:58:57 s/example/examples 19:59:02 -Christophe_Strobbe 19:59:05 -Chris_Ridpath 19:59:06 -Neil_Soiffer 19:59:06 -Gez_Lemon 19:59:07 Christophe has left #wcag-teama 19:59:08 ChrisR has left #wcag-teama 19:59:08 -Ben_Caldwell 19:59:09 -David_MacDonald 19:59:10 WAI_(WCAGA)2:00PM has ended 19:59:12 Attendees were David_MacDonald, Ben_Caldwell, Gez_Lemon, Christophe_Strobbe, Chris_Ridpath, Neil_Soiffer 19:59:22 rrsagent, generate minutes 19:59:22 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2005/09/27-wcag-teama-minutes.html ben 19:59:47 rrsagent, make log world 20:01:54 RRSAgent, off