IRC log of swbp on 2005-07-19

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13:59:09 [Ralph]

Meeting: RDF-in-XHTML TF

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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2005Jul/0014.html

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Chair: Ben Adida

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Regrets: DanBri

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Previous Meeting: http://www.w3.org/2005/07/12-swbp-minutes

14:00:14 [Zakim]

SW_BPD(rdfxhtml)10:00AM has now started

14:00:21 [Zakim]

+Ben_Adida

14:00:30 [Steven]

zakim, dial steven-617

14:00:31 [Zakim]

ok, Steven; the call is being made

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-Ben_Adida

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+Ben_Adida

14:00:34 [Zakim]

+Steven

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+Ralph

14:01:42 [Ralph]

Regrets+ Mark

14:03:08 [benadida]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/samples/

14:03:11 [benadida]

examples by DanBri

14:03:48 [Ralph]

Steven: I'm also working with Ivan Herman on some examples

14:04:07 [Ralph]

... Ivan manages the presentation of W3C Talks (from the W3C home page) using RDF

14:04:24 [benadida]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2005Jul/0012.html

14:04:27 [Ralph]

... he's looking into representing the Talk data in RDF/A

14:04:33 [benadida]

action items collected from last few meetings

14:04:48 [Ralph]

ACTION: Steven send wording for 23.2 to mailing list

14:04:48 [Ralph]

-- done; -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2005Jul/0015.html Wording for 23.2

14:06:49 [Ralph]

Ralph: do you expect that 23.2 will be definitive for all the ways in which an RDF triple can be extracted from RDF/A?

14:06:55 [Ralph]

Steven: yes, modulo bnodes

14:07:10 [Ralph]

Ben: what about inheritance?

14:07:24 [Ralph]

Steven: inheritance is intended to be covered

14:08:06 [Ralph]

ACTION: Ben to notify working group of upcoming WD of Note

14:08:35 [Ralph]

s/group/group via a status report/

14:08:48 [Ralph]

-- continues

14:09:28 [Ralph]

BenA: regarding GRDDL profile, does HTML WG understand that there may be a document at the namespace URI that contains a transform?

14:09:32 [Ralph]

Steven: yes, that should be fine

14:09:51 [Ralph]

... some of these administrative details will happen after Last Call

14:10:13 [Ralph]

... if you really want an issue to be tracked, send a message to www-html-editor

14:10:49 [Steven]

That's why the text says "the about property" rather than "the content of the about attribute", since it takes inheritance and defaults into account.

14:11:02 [Steven]

(re inheritance above)

14:13:15 [Ralph]

ACTION: Ben send mail to www-html-editors to assign an issue for the GRDDL namespace document behind the profile

14:13:42 [Ralph]

ACTION: Ben create a way to track progress on the 3 issues of qnames, reification, and custom attributes and elements [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/12-swbp-minutes.html#action01]

14:13:56 [Ralph]

Ben: may be simple enough to create a Web page for tracking these

14:14:28 [Ralph]

... can add the other issues to this same document

14:14:37 [Ralph]

ACTION: jjc to circulate www conf paper

14:14:40 [Ralph]

-- continues

14:14:55 [Ralph]

Ralph: Jeremy's paper on RDF/A

14:17:26 [Ralph]

http://www.w3.org/2005/06/27-swbp-minutes#ActionSummary

14:18:19 [Ralph]

ACTION: Ralph suggest to XHTML TF that Jeremy's WWW2005 Talk be turned into a document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/06/27-swbp-minutes.html#action07]

14:18:23 [Ralph]

-- done

14:18:49 [Ralph]

Ralph: there was some thought at the WG telecon that Jeremy's talk could be the basis for a WG Note

14:19:26 [Ralph]

ACTION: take a serious look at Mark's bnode proposal summary http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2005Jun/0010.html

14:19:29 [Ralph]

-- continues

14:19:38 [Ralph]

ACTION: Mark to create an rdf/a wiki

14:19:43 [Ralph]

-- continues (though some evidence of action)

14:19:57 [Ralph]

ACTION: Mark to check edge cases of inheritance in RDF/A

14:19:59 [Ralph]

-- continues

14:20:05 [Ralph]

ACTION: Ben to put together the "ACID" test for XHTML2 RDF/A

14:20:10 [Ralph]

-- continues; some progress

14:20:16 [Ralph]

ACTION: danbri record an issue re # vs /

14:20:52 [Ralph]

Ralph: I don

14:21:00 [Ralph]

Ralph: I don't recall the details of this action

14:21:09 [Ralph]

Ben: perhaps regarding 302 responses?

14:21:12 [Ralph]

-- continues

14:21:31 [Ralph]

ACTION: Ben to coordinate with mark for next week's meeting

14:21:33 [Ralph]

-- done

14:22:19 [Ralph]

Ben: I will continue to do this coordination

14:23:35 [Ralph]

Steven: status of response to Bjoern Hoehrmann?

14:23:51 [Ralph]

Ben: have a draft reply but waiting on the Bag question

14:24:34 [Ralph]

... is tied up in inheritance question also

14:25:10 [Ralph]

... I don't want to send a response for the record until we have a 100% correct solution

14:26:28 [Ralph]

Next Meeting: 26 July

14:27:09 [Ralph]

Ben: I expect to be able to attend through August 9, won't be able to attend from 16 Aug for 6 weeks

14:28:04 [Ralph]

Ben: what are the current expectations for XHTML2 Last Call?

14:28:12 [Zakim]

-Steven

14:28:16 [Ralph]

Steven: we really hope to go to Last Call before our September face-to-face

14:28:17 [Zakim]

-Ben_Adida

14:28:21 [Zakim]

-Ralph

14:28:22 [Zakim]

SW_BPD(rdfxhtml)10:00AM has ended

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Attendees were Ben_Adida, Steven, Ralph

14:30:10 [Ralph]

rrsagent, please draft minutes

14:30:10 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-minutes.html Ralph

14:30:17 [Ralph]

rrsagent, please make logs world

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rrsagent, bye

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

I see 12 open action items:

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ACTION: Steven send wording for 23.2 to mailing list [1]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-04-48

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ACTION: Ben to notify working group of upcoming WD of Note [2]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-08-06

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Ben send mail to www-html-editors to assign an issue for the GRDDL namespace document behind the profile [3]

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-13-15

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Ben create a way to track progress on the 3 issues of qnames, reification, and custom attributes and elements [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/12-swbp-minutes.html#action01] [4]

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-13-42

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: jjc to circulate www conf paper [5]

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-14-37

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Ralph suggest to XHTML TF that Jeremy's WWW2005 Talk be turned into a document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/06/27-swbp-minutes.html#action07] [6]

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-18-19

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: take a serious look at Mark's bnode proposal summary http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2005Jun/0010.html [7]

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-19-26

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Mark to create an rdf/a wiki [8]

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-19-38

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Mark to check edge cases of inheritance in RDF/A [9]

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-19-57

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Ben to put together the "ACID" test for XHTML2 RDF/A [10]

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-20-05

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: danbri record an issue re # vs / [11]

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-20-16

14:30:20 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Ben to coordinate with mark for next week's meeting [12]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-21-31