IRC log of wai-wcag on 2005-07-13

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rrsagent, make log world

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chair: Michael

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agenda+ Requirements

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agenda+ Meaning of testing (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0042.html)

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agenda+ Discuss Script techniques direction (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0015.html)

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agendum 1 = Requirements (http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2005/05/WD-wcag2-tech-req-20050520.html)

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meeting: WCAG Techniques Telecon 13 July 2005

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WAI_WCAG(techniques)10:00AM has now started

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+Michael_Cooper

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+??P9

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zakim, ??P9 is Chris_Ridpath

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+Chris_Ridpath; got it

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+Becky_Gibson

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+Christophe_Strobbe

14:02:55 [wendy]

zakim, code?

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the conference code is 92248 (tel:+1.617.761.6200), wendy

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+Wendy

14:03:56 [Michael]

regrets: John Slatin, Tim Boland

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+??P39

14:05:02 [ben]

zakim, ??P39 is Ben

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+Ben; got it

14:07:53 [Michael]

zakim, take up agendum 2

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agendum 2. "Meaning of testing (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0042.html)" taken up [from Michael]

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scribe: Michael

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ECMAScript test file sample: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/tests/script-test1.html

14:09:29 [goetsu]

hello i'm late is this a private meeting?

14:11:37 [goetsu]

can i stay for just for readding?

14:12:20 [wendy]

goetsu - please identify yourself.

14:13:32 [goetsu]

i am aurelien levy, i have made tree post on the public list, i am french webdesigner and developer, i am a member of the Accessiweb working group

14:14:14 [goetsu]

maybe you know sylvie accessiweb/braillenet, Sylvie duchateau or pierre guillou or dominique burger

14:16:02 [wendy]

yes, know sylvie, pierre, and dominique. people who are not participants in good standing do not typically hang out on irc during discussions. are you hoping to become a participant in good standing? (info at: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/participation.html#Becoming)

14:19:02 [Christophe]

http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/tests/ctprocess.html

14:23:37 [Michael]

resolution: start up test case review process of having reviews in batches of 10 with recommendations, online surveys of the resultant proposal, and discussion of the difficult ones in calls

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action: Michael divide up test cases for review again

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action: discuss with Gregg process for updating structure of techniques documents

14:33:04 [Michael]

zakim, close this item

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agendum 2 closed

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I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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1. Requirements (http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2005/05/WD-wcag2-tech-req-20050520.html)

14:33:14 [Michael]

zakim, take up item 3

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agendum 3. "Discuss Script techniques direction (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0015.html)" taken up [from Michael]

14:40:59 [Michael]

action: Wendy, Becky, Michael discuss with Peter-Paul Koch about script techniques

14:46:53 [wendy]

seems that http://www.quirksmode.org/js/accessibility.html is headed in the direction that david recommends, but needs testing/evaluation procedures - likely need diff procedures for each type of baseline.

14:50:03 [wendy]

forms validation - possible testing procedure: spell out each thing that should happen. stating explicitly what happenes when (e.g., enter incorrect telephone number, tab out of field. field doesn't validate until after tab out and using a SR it is expected to [xyz]. )

14:55:03 [Michael]

action: Becky prototype a script technique and procedural test to see how it all fits together

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-Chris_Ridpath

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zakim, close this item

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agendum 3 closed

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I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:

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1. Requirements (http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2005/05/WD-wcag2-tech-req-20050520.html)

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-Becky_Gibson

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-Michael_Cooper

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-Ben

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-Wendy

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-Christophe_Strobbe

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WAI_WCAG(techniques)10:00AM has ended

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Attendees were Michael_Cooper, Chris_Ridpath, Becky_Gibson, Christophe_Strobbe, Wendy, Ben

15:08:38 [Michael]

rrsagent, generate minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-wai-wcag-minutes.html Michael

15:11:48 [ben]

zakim, bye

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RRSAgent, bye

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I see 4 open action items:

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ACTION: Michael divide up test cases for review again [1]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-wai-wcag-irc#T14-24-22

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ACTION: discuss with Gregg process for updating structure of techniques documents [2]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-wai-wcag-irc#T14-31-02

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ACTION: Wendy, Becky, Michael discuss with Peter-Paul Koch about script techniques [3]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-wai-wcag-irc#T14-40-59

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ACTION: Becky prototype a script technique and procedural test to see how it all fits together [4]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-wai-wcag-irc#T14-55-03